Mohlat (Geo)- Sami Khan, Kinza Hashmi - Page 108

Originally posted by: azaanabbas

I wonder if this show is still shooting

Kinza said shooting is over

Originally posted by: cutejodikangal

Hain? Where did I say that? It’s your take so don’t put that on my count. I said, she will realize that he loved her enough to marry her despite what she did to him. Where is the reference to the domestic abuse here? 😕

You should clear your mind before reading in between the lines, may be then it won’t be all that toxic? Choice is yours anyway

Not reading between the lines, at all. You're just backtracking. I've copied your exact words below, in blue, pay particular attention to the sections in bold. You're saying Maham will realise she's in love with Salman because he's not a 'yes-man' and he was willing to marry her despite everything.

Maham is a horrible person. However, Salman is out for revenge and using domestic violence to get it. He married Maham, for revenge not because he loves her. He is literally physically abusing her; first the slap and now force-feeding her. It's pure abuse. Maham's not going to be grateful to a man who married her to lock her up and domestically abuse her. That entire take is toxic. If you now choose to be oblivious to what you said, that's fine.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I liked Salman too. I think Maham will fall in love with him for real because all her life she has only had yesmen who never really made her experience the real love. She will realize that Salman loves her so much that he was willing to marry her despite what she had done to him, when he could’ve done anything to her after earning her blind trust. I think Salman does love Maham a lot, even more than the puppy love Dawar had for Maham.

Originally posted by: fobby_fosho2

Guys there’s no way Maham and Salman should get a happy ending. While Maham is evil, Salman is abusing her. Salman’s treatment of Maham is nothing short of psychopathic. I desperately hope Maham doesn’t fall for him and this couple gets a happily ever after. I think SF is too smart for that.

Finally, a sane voice. I don't know how some people here are deluding themselves into believing 'all he's doing is asking her to cook'.

He has:

(1) locked her up in his house; taken away all her freedom

(2) slapped her

(3) physically force-fed her

He's a domestic abuser. End of conversation.

And Dawar suspecting Naveera and, in the last episode, treating her with contempt is not cute or romantic. It misogynistic and emotionally abusive.

A few people want Dawar and Naveera together so badly that they're willing to twist the negative behaviour of his character into 'proof of romance'. It's not.

I initially thought Dawar/Naveera would be good as endgame too, but there is no way I'm going to overlook his misogyny.

Anyway, it looks like some people here will be disappointed. I'm betting Rida will die; Dawar/Naveera will get divorced and Naveera will end up with the only non-toxic male on this show: Eesa. I'm definitely getting Mera Naseeb vibes with how this story is panning out.

Originally posted by: BlueWaters20

Not reading between the lines, at all. You're just backtracking. I've copied your exact words below, in blue, pay particular attention to the sections in bold. You're saying Maham will realise she's in love with Salman because he's not a 'yes-man' and he was willing to marry her despite everything.

Maham is a horrible person. However, Salman is out for revenge and using domestic violence to get it. He married Maham, for revenge not because he loves her. He is literally physically abusing her; first the slap and now force-feeding her. It's pure abuse. Maham's not going to be grateful to a man who married her to lock her up and domestically abuse her. That entire take is toxic. If you now choose to be oblivious to what you said, that's fine.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I liked Salman too. I think Maham will fall in love with him for real because all her life she has only had yesmen who never really made her experience the real love. She will realize that Salman loves her so much that he was willing to marry her despite what she had done to him, when he could’ve done anything to her after earning her blind trust. I think Salman does love Maham a lot, even more than the puppy love Dawar had for Maham.

She was the one who approached him so that she can use and and throw him like she did with Dawar. You are the one who is being oblivious to what you are saying. I mean Maham being subjected to domestic abuse? Yeah right. That’s why she was so scared that she literally was yelling and insulting Salman’s dad at the dining table.

Their’s is a toxic relationship but not just because of Salman. Of course Maham needed someone to bring her back to the reality and jolt her out of her delusions which Salman hopefully will be successful in doing.😛 I really hope their relationship doesn’t succeed just for Salman’s sake because I think he doesn’t deserve a cruella like Maham after losing his mom because of her and going through so much pain. But before she exits from his life, I hope she at least feels apologetic towards him for the pain she caused to him. That would be a good start for her own wellbeing. no?

EDIT: Forgot to address the toxic part since you seem to be disturbed by it. You are the one who is being toxic getting personal and all but am I getting disturbed by the behavior? Heck No! Fortunately for me, my mental wellbeing is wayyy too strong for it to get affected by random posters on a Fictional Drama forum. I guess I just happen to handle better the difference of opinions without getting mentally disturbed. *shrugs*

Originally posted by: cutejodikangal

She was the one who approached him so that she can use and and throw him like she did with Dawar. You are the one who is being oblivious to what you are saying. I mean Maham being subjected to domestic abuse? Yeah right. That’s why she was so scared that she literally was yelling and insulting Salman’s dad at the dining table.

Their’s is a toxic relationship but not just because of Salman. Of course Maham needed someone to bring her back to the reality and jolt her out of her delusions which Salman hopefully will be successful in doing.😛 I really hope their relationship doesn’t succeed just for Salman’s sake because I think he doesn’t deserve a cruella like Maham after losing his mom because of her and going through so much pain. But before she exits from his life, I hope she at least feels apologetic towards him for the pain she caused to him. That would be a good start for her own wellbeing. no?

EDIT: Forgot to address the toxic part since you seem to be disturbed by it. You are the one who is being toxic getting personal and all but am I getting disturbed by the behavior? Heck No! Fortunately for me, my mental wellbeing is wayyy too strong for it to get affected by random posters on a Fictional Drama forum. I guess I just happen to handle better the difference of opinions without getting mentally disturbed. *shrugs*

Her approaching him is irrelevant. Nothing she does gives him a licence to domestically abuse her. How difficult is that to understand. If you seriously think domestic abuse can be justified then there's no hope for this conversation...

Maham 'screaming and shouting' does not negate the fact that Salman has resorted to domestic violence. Are you seriously saying Salman slapping Maham and physically and violently force-feeding her isn't domestic abuse? If you are that's beyond sick.

I'm not getting personal at all.Have I personally attacked you? No I haven't. Have I attempted to gaslight you by backtracking on what I said after being called out on it (like you did)? No I have not.

You are the one who got personal by calling my 'mind' 'toxic'. I didn't say you are toxic. I didn't even say your mind is toxic. I said your attempt to brush the negative aspects of Salman's character, specifically the fact that he is a domestic abuser, under the carpet is toxic. Because it is. That is an objective truth. You lot are legitimising domestic abuse. Claiming that Maham will fall in love with Salman because he's not a 'yes man', suggesting that her 'character' legitimises Salman domestically abusing her, etc. is toxic. End of. That's. a. fact.

If calling out domestic abuse, or the legitimisation of it, hurts your 'sentiments' that's not my problem.

It looks like you and a few others on this thread need an education on what domestic abuse is; so here's an extract the NHS website:

Signs of domestic violence and abuse

There are different kinds of abuse, but it's always about having power and control over you.

If you answer yes to any of the following questions, you might be in an abusive relationship.

Emotional abuse

Does your partner ever:

• belittle you, or put you down?
• blame you for the abuse or arguments?
• deny that abuse is happening, or downplay it?
• isolate you from your family and friends? Salman has locked Maham up in his house. She's not allowed out at all.
• stop you going to college or work?
• make unreasonable demands for your attention?
• accuse you of flirting or having affairs?
• tell you what to wear, who to see, where to go, and what to think? Again, Maham is not allowed out at all. Even in the house he is controlling what times she can come down.
• control your money, or not give you enough to buy food or other essential things?
• monitor your social media profiles, share photos or videos of you without your consent or use GPS locators to know where you are?

Threats and intimidation

Does your partner ever:

• threaten to hurt or kill you?
• destroy things that belong to you?
• stand over you, invade your personal space? Salman has done this plenty of times by now.
• threaten to kill themselves or the children?
• read your emails, texts or letters?
• harass or follow you?

Physical abuse

The person abusing you may hurt you in a number of ways.

Does your partner ever:

• slap, hit or punch you? Salman has slapped Maham
• push or shove you? Salman has pushed / shoved Maham. Salman also force-feeds Maham which is another example of physical abuse. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm certain this is heading towards a full blown domestic violence storyline.
• bite or kick you?
• burn you?
• choke you or hold you down?
• throw things?

Anyone who can watch the clip below and say Salman isn't a domestic abuser, or suggest that Maham deserves it because she's not a nice person needs a serious reality check. It doesn't matter how much of a bi**ch a woman is; physical violence, coercion or isolation are never justified.

https://youtu.be/Aiiyo3AzZ8c?t=11

Is it only me, or did anyone else find Navwera behaviour weird yesterday when she refused to tell Dawar about her dad. She also left amal too the servants. That was so unlike Naveera.

Originally posted by: Ruby2020

Is it only me, or did anyone else find Navwera behaviour weird yesterday when she refused to tell Dawar about her dad. She also left amal too the servants. That was so unlike Naveera.

Same here. It’s coming across as a forced conflict ,may be for the lack of a better plot line by the writers. Because the servants knew she went to engage her father outside of the home so that he didn’t have to be allowed into the home and offend her m-i-l. And moreover, she said she was going to tell him anyway if he hadn’t started off with doubting her and all that jazz. In this era of people being just a phone call away and when she calls 67676 times her mom and sister in another country, she couldn’t make one call to Dawar and leave a message about her father? Forget anything else, with the way they have set up her character, is it even believable that she didn’t call back home and make arrangements for Amal when she was getting late?

Originally posted by: cutejodikangal

Same here. It’s coming across as a forced conflict ,may be for the lack of a better plot line by the writers. Because the servants knew she went to engage her father outside of the home so that he didn’t have to be allowed into the home and offend her m-i-l. And moreover, she said she was going to tell him anyway if he hadn’t started off with doubting her and all that jazz. In this era of people being just a phone call away and when she calls 67676 times her mom and sister in another country, she couldn’t make one call to Dawar and leave a message about her father? Forget anything else, with the way they have set up her character, is it even believable that she didn’t call back home and make arrangements for Amal when she was getting late?

Exactly it was such lazy writing, naveera has never been shown so careless.. the entire sequence was forced and unconvincing.. also what's all this same dialogues, "shaadi majoboori mein ke hai, koi haq nehi hai, amal ki aya " e.t.c. naveera always knew why Dawar married her, so why behave so unhappy and forced now.

Naveera father is Dawar uncle too, if he gets to know about him, he will surely help out. Its like she is punishing dawar..

Dawar, I don't defend but seriously she was pushing her luck.

Originally posted by: Ruby2020

Exactly it was such lazy writing, naveera has never been shown so careless.. the entire sequence was forced and unconvincing.. also what's all this same dialogues, "shaadi majoboori mein ke hai, koi haq nehi hai, amal ki aya " e.t.c. naveera always knew why Dawar married her, so why behave so unhappy and forced now.

Naveera father is Dawar uncle too, if he gets to know about him, he will surely help out. Its like she is punishing dawar..

Dawar, I don't defend but seriously she was pushing her luck.

There is nothing to defend Dawar who is just suffering from inferiority complex developed because of a cheating wife.

But Navera’s behavior is totally out of character. Wonder why the writer is taking this route when she built up her character so well and in a certain direction up until now.

Her good for nothing baap, at least he should’ve called up Dawar. I don’t know. arghhh

Was she wondering why was Dawar’s mood off when she went out without telling anyone leaving Amal and came late? Now this is definitely lazy writing. Faaltoo ka conflict just to bring out Dawar’s care and concern for her?They think this is some kind of romance? 🤔

OMG, the abuse. She purposefully puts extra salt and gives that to an old high BP patient person. And then even before they asked her anything, she storms into the room and yells at them insulting an old man.If this is not abuse, what is?🤔 What a low life!

And OMG what Domestic Abuse bhai, 😭the guy literally tells her ‘it’s ok, koi baat nahi’ when she burnt the food and when they were all dying of hunger.. If this is not abuse what is?

Lol, they both are into some kind of a weird cat-mouse game. The writing is definitely confusing though. When he said koi baat nahi, it looked like both of them were being nice to each other. And then right off the bat they start again with their scheming. I think this is going to go on for some more time. 😳

Originally posted by: cutejodikangal

There is nothing to defend Dawar who is just suffering from inferiority complex developed because of a cheating wife.

But Navera’s behavior is totally out of character. Wonder why the writer is taking this route when she built up her character so well and in a certain direction up until now.

Her good for nothing baap, at least he should’ve called up Dawar. I don’t know. arghhh

Was she wondering why was Dawar’s mood off when she went out without telling anyone leaving Amal and came late? Now this is definitely lazy writing. Faaltoo ka conflict just to bring out Dawar’s care and concern for her?They think this is some kind of romance? 🤔

This kind of romance is totally nonsense 🙄

I prefer mature writing as Naveera has always been portrayed mature in the story

Dawar has a long way to go until he qualifies for naveera love