What if Pakhi (not Virat) causes Sai’s suicide attempt?

It seems like there is no significant reason to send Virat away on a mission. And Pakhi seems hell bent on punishing Sai while he is away. What if she goes too far and breaks Sai down? What if Sai (who is already struggling with keeping herself together) has a mental breakdown and decides to end her life? This way the makers still get to follow KD’s original suicide track and not butcher Virat’s character at the same time.

Originally posted by: Lobee

It seems like there is no significant reason to send Virat away on a mission. And Pakhi seems hell bent on punishing Sai while he is away. What if she goes too far and breaks Sai down? What if Sai (who is already struggling with keeping herself together) has a mental breakdown and decides to end her life? This way the makers still get to follow KD’s original suicide track and not butcher Virat’s character at the same time.

Interesting thought.

But i still wouldn't want a suicide track at all! Period.

Pp going scot free if she drives Sai to the point of suicide cannot be justified. So it'll still butcher virat if he does not hold pp accountable for her actions. its best that they dont delve into tracks like suicide when they cant handle it.

Let them just stick to something less serious but still drama inducing like accident etc. But not suicide..

No matter who does the mistake , it’s always Virat who gets blamed . When Sai questions his character based on some misunderstanding or reveals all their “private bedroom ” information in front of all then it’s justified saying she was provoked so it’s fine and Virat shouldn’t feel bad about it but when Virat’s questions her character then provocation and misunderstanding takes back seat and only actions is given preference.

sorry be it whoever responsible i am not keen on such sensitive tracks when such sensitive things happening in the world. Its reality it should be shown many might debate but i don't support it. What are you encouraging the audience can't bear the mental torture and harrassment so commit suicide instead why not show filing a case on mental harassment and send them to jail thats more progressive and the right thing to do

Audience watches shows or any kind of medium for entertainment but that doesn't mean you show negativity and one might not know what the person feeling and they might get influence by it.

I would rather see sai file mental harrassment case on Chavans & Didi and teach them a lesson so that next time they think 1000 times before conducting new cases in zillat arena rather than sai commit suicide as she could not take the torture of that family n virat accusation(as per original)

Life is precious! Through entertainment they should show the progressive side not the evil side as people gets influence by certain situations in where they could relate and feel this is what they should do

This is not abt Sairat or the show itself. This is about showing progressive tracks where a women can fight against domestic violence & mental harrassment. Rural n Urban families both are going through domestic violence and shows can be a medium to educate those womens who are suffering from domestic violence to fight against it and how it should be done as a process

Mental harassment and domestic violence should not be gender specific . They shouldn’t promote these things and any character irrespective of the gender doing it must be condemned. Even men go through domestic violence , rape and mental harassment but ITV is not sensible enough to highlight this . Unless these people stop targeting certain section of audience for TRP nothing will change

Sensitive issues like suicide should not be encouraged on National TV like this. They have already shown in once now again.

Be it any person Pakhi or Virat who ever provoked Sai I don't support such track in the story. 👎🏼

If that happens then Both should be called Out for pushing someone to Suicide. Pakhi once left Scot free for manipulation of information .Whoevet does it be Should be addressed or punished

Sai didnt just have a "misunderstanding". It was entirely legit for her to think that virat-pp were emotionally attached, despite him being married to her and despite pp being his brothers wife. She never accused him of sleeping with pp. But it was also not a simple "misunderstanding". virat did think he "loved" pp even though he is ashamed to even mention/discuss it now. But doesn't change the truth. Sai was repeatedly made to feel like a third wheel, her husband's ex lives in the same house 24x7 spewing venom with her supporters- that is not normal, her husband several times in the early days made slip ups like "pyaari cheez", almost saying she cant understand his love...oops friendship for pp, she has seen her position as his wife be completely irrelevant to pp and most of his family and by him being a spectator while he tried to maintain peace. Her husband only said not to have "any expectations" but never clarified the circumstances in which he met pp/what happened- how there was no real "relationship" and it was just infatuation. Even as only "deal" wife he owes her some details n clarity. Till date despite the scene of Virat saying to Sai that he is no longer nibhaoing vaada after finally acknowledging that he did make a vaada to pp, Sai actually has NO idea how serious/not the relationship with pp was, she doesn't know anything. In her eyes she still feels like virat pp are some "tragic love story" who can never be together but will eternally pine for each other. And Sai feels the only reason virat is distancing himself from pp is due to maryaada and also because she is becoming despicable day by day. Falling to new lows to the point of being plain cruel n inhuman.

But in reality it was a 2 day infatuation and a non existent relationship. But Sai knows none of that. He knew after she overheard the conversation with pp that she was very upset. So instead of using the opportunity to clarify it, he made a few half hearted attempts. He had multiple chances even as Sai was discussing it in CN to stop her and take her away.

Sai's actions was NOT a reaction to just a one day provocation. It was months of watching pp barging into their room, have private conversations with him, bringing him food/water like a wife, asking to pack things together, butting into pretty much every conversation between Sairat. So theres nothing "personal" that was established between Sairat because pp was almost always there!

So unfortunately it is not the same thing as Virat's situation in KD. He had a misunderstanding. He let one single trivial incident and pp's words mislead him.. I dont fault him for being insecure or even accusing Sai and doubting her because he is only human. He is also prone to being irrational sometimes. The problem is not what happened but WHY and HOW

Virat making an error, being jealous/possessive snd insecure is not abnormal. Just like Sai he also has many doubts about whether she will reciprocate his affection, what if she found someone of her age who she loved and wanted to move on- these are not unreasonable fears. And just like Sai he would be immensely hurt to think of Sai having someone else as her priority rather than him.

But people have a core personality that they need to stay true to even in their moments of weakness or mistakes.

Sai is the type who never measures her words, gussail, brash, confrontational, and does not think her words through and says too much without meaning most of it. Thats her flaw.

But Virat is supposed to be the opposite. He is supposed to be the guy that lets everything simmer and doesn't ever speak up. Thats his flaw.

So Sai reacts true to her personality. But Virat is a yo yo. He simmers if its about pp, bk etc. But as soon as its Sai he doesn't do the same. In the beginning i also thought its only coz he is so jazbaati about Sai that he cant help but react when it comes to her. He can be hinself with her without any baggage or judgement. He doesn't need to measure his words with her like he does for others. But thats only partially true. Its too romanticized to say Virat losing temper almost exclusively with Sai is due to his love.

So even though Virat has shown immense regret, apologized profusely for acting in haste wrt Sai in past and he knows pp's intentions- despite that if he decides to act out of character and believe pp entirely and not just that, but address Sai having an affair in pp's presence- its not something that is palatable. It also means that he learnt/took away nothing from the past incidents.

Sai always does things loudly. But Virat is not like that.

So Sai calling virat pp out publicly cannot be equated to Virats situation in KD.

In Sai's case the WHY is very strong. She went through months of multiple incidents but as she started developing feelings for him it got harder and harder to accept pp and the idea that her husband loved someone else while being married to her and after repeated failed direct attempts at asking Virat she ended up discussing it openly.

Could it have been handled better by Sai- YES but can I as audience empathize with her position - YES

In Virats case, the WHY is only partially understandable. I do understand where his insecurity stems from but the lead up to his misunderstanding in KD was pretty flimsy. And in Virat's case- if they blindly copy paste KD, it means that he is acting out of character again. The setup of KD had a friend in his bedroom with Sai just sitting at the table with the door open but his reaction was completely out of proportion. So its harder to empathize. If they had shown that Virat repeatedly gets annoyed at Sai getting texts or calls from guy friends, seeing her enjoying hanging out with them etc etc and then it led up to a situation where he blew his fuse, it'd be possible as audience to understand his situation better.

So expecting Virat to stay true to his chatacter and talk to Sai in private does not mean Sai is excused of all her mistakes.

In order for audience to empathize with a characters mistake, it is important that they show some consistency along with reflection/gradual progress/change. In Sai's case the makers have been able to do that fairly well. Because these days you see the gradual change in Sai's tone. Its not a U turn but you can see her shift. She is trying to curb herself. Its like baby steps. Its subtle but its noticeable. But in Virats case they mess up - because they copy Rono without editing it- and i dont want that to be repeated again n again. There is no consistency and no growth/change. He is a pendulum. So the issue is not that Virat has a misunderstanding/makes a mistake but that he acts so inconsistently. In Devkit track Virats anger was 100% legit but how he displayed it was not. They make his actions so obnoxious that it pales in front of Sai's mistakes. That is incredibly poor writing and it should be fixed.

No one could ever stomach that Virat the ips officer could not only hand hold forcefully/ throw Sai out of the house but take SO much time to actually feel guilty about it. He was the guy that thinks even criminals should be treated with basic respect. So its not that Virat is some saint who should never get angry or make a mistake but it should be done in a way that is in line with his character too. Once/twice we can say ok his tolerance threshold was breached but everytime they cant show the same thing.

They really should not show any suicide track at all and handle the insecurity track differently. Its possible. Makers are capable of giving original gems like bamboo gifting scene, holi scenes and the way they dealt with the Virst pp issue and Virat understanding Sais pov and now the way they did these scenes yesterday/day before with the going on mission and selfie. All these scenes have been real- they have nok jhok, banter, enotion, romance, everything. So they should do something similar with this insecurity track.

Unfortunately I think they are going down the S path. Despite so many messages and mails that have already been in motion since last week.

It's not about anybody's fault. Everything is not about the characters or actors. Our society is barely getting out of a situation that has been so grim.

S has been an option for so many people who have been left bereft. That option should be cancelled. Period.

Originally posted by: Nja91

Sai didnt just have a "misunderstanding". It was entirely legit for her to think that virat-pp were emotionally attached, despite him being married to her and despite pp being his brothers wife. She never accused him of sleeping with pp. But it was also not a simple "misunderstanding". virat did think he "loved" pp even though he is ashamed to even mention/discuss it now. But doesn't change the truth. Sai was repeatedly made to feel like a third wheel, her husband's ex lives in the same house 24x7 spewing venom with her supporters- that is not normal, her husband several times in the early days made slip ups like "pyaari cheez", almost saying she cant understand his love...oops friendship for pp, she has seen her position as his wife be completely irrelevant to pp and most of his family and by him being a spectator while he tried to maintain peace. Her husband only said not to have "any expectations" but never clarified the circumstances in which he met pp/what happened- how there was no real "relationship" and it was just infatuation. Even as only "deal" wife he owes her some details n clarity. Till date despite the scene of Virat saying to Sai that he is no longer nibhaoing vaada after finally acknowledging that he did make a vaada to pp, Sai actually has NO idea how serious/not the relationship with pp was, she doesn't know anything. In her eyes she still feels like virat pp are some "tragic love story" who can never be together but will eternally pine for each other. And Sai feels the only reason virat is distancing himself from pp is due to maryaada and also because she is becoming despicable day by day. Falling to new lows to the point of being plain cruel n inhuman.

But in reality it was a 2 day infatuation and a non existent relationship. But Sai knows none of that. He knew after she overheard the conversation with pp that she was very upset. So instead of using the opportunity to clarify it, he made a few half hearted attempts. He had multiple chances even as Sai was discussing it in CN to stop her and take her away.

Sai's actions was NOT a reaction to just a one day provocation. It was months of watching pp barging into their room, have private conversations with him, bringing him food/water like a wife, asking to pack things together, butting into pretty much every conversation between Sairat. So theres nothing "personal" that was established between Sairat because pp was almost always there!

So unfortunately it is not the same thing as Virat's situation in KD. He had a misunderstanding. He let one single trivial incident and pp's words mislead him.. I dont fault him for being insecure or even accusing Sai and doubting her because he is only human. He is also prone to being irrational sometimes. The problem is not what happened but WHY and HOW

Virat making an error, being jealous/possessive snd insecure is not abnormal. Just like Sai he also has many doubts about whether she will reciprocate his affection, what if she found someone of her age who she loved and wanted to move on- these are not unreasonable fears. And just like Sai he would be immensely hurt to think of Sai having someone else as her priority rather than him.

But people have a core personality that they need to stay true to even in their moments of weakness or mistakes.

Sai is the type who never measures her words, gussail, brash, confrontational, and does not think her words through and says too much without meaning most of it. Thats her flaw.

But Virat is supposed to be the opposite. He is supposed to be the guy that lets everything simmer and doesn't ever speak up. Thats his flaw.

So Sai reacts true to her personality. But Virat is a yo yo. He simmers if its about pp, bk etc. But as soon as its Sai he doesn't do the same. In the beginning i also thought its only coz he is so jazbaati about Sai that he cant help but react when it comes to her. He can be hinself with her without any baggage or judgement. He doesn't need to measure his words with her like he does for others. But thats only partially true. Its too romanticized to say Virat losing temper almost exclusively with Sai is due to his love.

So even though Virat has shown immense regret, apologized profusely for acting in haste wrt Sai in past and he knows pp's intentions- despite that if he decides to act out of character and believe pp entirely and not just that, but address Sai having an affair in pp's presence- its not something that is palatable. It also means that he learnt/took away nothing from the past incidents.

Sai always does things loudly. But Virat is not like that.

So Sai calling virat pp out publicly cannot be equated to Virats situation in KD.

In Sai's case the WHY is very strong. She went through months of multiple incidents but as she started developing feelings for him it got harder and harder to accept pp and the idea that her husband loved someone else while being married to her and after repeated failed direct attempts at asking Virat she ended up discussing it openly.

Could it have been handled better by Sai- YES but can I as audience empathize with her position - YES

In Virats case, the WHY is only partially understandable. I do understand where his insecurity stems from but the lead up to his misunderstanding in KD was pretty flimsy. And in Virat's case- if they blindly copy paste KD, it means that he is acting out of character again. The setup of KD had a friend in his bedroom with Sai just sitting at the table with the door open but his reaction was completely out of proportion. So its harder to empathize. If they had shown that Virat repeatedly gets annoyed at Sai getting texts or calls from guy friends, seeing her enjoying hanging out with them etc etc and then it led up to a situation where he blew his fuse, it'd be possible as audience to understand his situation better.

So expecting Virat to stay true to his chatacter and talk to Sai in private does not mean Sai is excused of all her mistakes.

In order for audience to empathize with a characters mistake, it is important that they show some consistency along with reflection/gradual progress/change. In Sai's case the makers have been able to do that fairly well. Because these days you see the gradual change in Sai's tone. Its not a U turn but you can see her shift. She is trying to curb herself. Its like baby steps. Its subtle but its noticeable. But in Virats case they mess up - because they copy Rono without editing it- and i dont want that to be repeated again n again. There is no consistency and no growth/change. He is a pendulum. So the issue is not that Virat has a misunderstanding/makes a mistake but that he acts so inconsistently. In Devkit track Virats anger was 100% legit but how he displayed it was not. They make his actions so obnoxious that it pales in front of Sai's mistakes. That is incredibly poor writing and it should be fixed.

No one could ever stomach that Virat the ips officer could not only hand hold forcefully/ throw Sai out of the house but take SO much time to actually feel guilty about it. He was the guy that thinks even criminals should be treated with basic respect. So its not that Virat is some saint who should never get angry or make a mistake but it should be done in a way that is in line with his character too. Once/twice we can say ok his tolerance threshold was breached but everytime they cant show the same thing.

They really should not show any suicide track at all and handle the insecurity track differently. Its possible. Makers are capable of giving original gems like bamboo gifting scene, holi scenes and the way they dealt with the Virst pp issue and Virat understanding Sais pov and now the way they did these scenes yesterday/day before with the going on mission and selfie. All these scenes have been real- they have nok jhok, banter, enotion, romance, everything. So they should do something similar with this insecurity track.

So wonderfully articulated 👏.

@red Yes that is simplifying things too much (and romanticizing it). There is a lot of reasons behind this apart from not having to measure his words - a sense of superiority due to age, judgemental towards Sai, male entitlement, or sometimes an effort to keep the peace by silencing the weak.

It is a thought, despite Virat being away so much happened and sai did not committed suicide but when Virat alleged she did attempted

Last she attempted when her abba died, she lost her world, she was emotionally so weak tht she did and Virat’s allegations will have same affect she is emotionally attached to Virat his words and actions do affect thts the reason she will taht what I feel