Episode Spoiler - 16 June 2021 - Page 13

Originally posted by: Ubiquitos

I know, she doesn't defend herself, and kind of give the other person the right to walk over her, aah the irony with her dialogues... Even that she was saying to Raghav more it seemed....Her outburst needed to be heard actually... I wanted to hear what she has to say about the fallout.. How it affects her feelings and thoughts from here on....

I wonder how much of her outburst has to do with Raghav's pleas and his past... This all is her response to all of that it looks like.. And even the top priority comment, his actions and behaviour along with her own feelings is pushing her to do things beyond herself, just like the guilt plus liking did for Raghav.. Ismein realisation aur perspective nahin hai, ismein dhoom tana nana na hai..

The starting afresh would be so nice at some point.

But less hopes, some people won't be able to digest seeing absolving the institution of marriage on TV, I have read comments like woh tumhara pati hai, and all.. So.. Pati toh hai, par shaadi normal nahin thi bhaiyaa, please itna bhi legitimize mat karo... Feelings are legit, expectations and confusion is legit, but not whitewashing...and what's a love story if you don't care about everything related to the other person.. The good, the bad, the past, the present, they should face it all...

Their haq as pati patni is as much justified as much as them having doubts wrt this relationship.

@ bold: I expect this. It brings depth and will show that he is actually in turmoil over who he was and he is and wants to be, both for himself and for her. Sometimes he is unrepentant and cribbing and all demanding and then he introspects..The perspectives need to be shown though..

I know, it's unfortunate that ITV will not accept the dissolution of a marriage due to something like this. If a couple separates, it has to be due to some external majboori. Shame, because I genuinely feel it would be good for their marriage to not carry the burden of their wedding.

I wish we heard her outburst too. Don't love that they took the Tum Hi Ho route with it today.

I don't know, I don't think her outburst today was driven by his story. Her pain certainly was, the situation made.her ache so much more because of the context she was aware of. But I can't imagine any version of Pallavi- be it episode 1 or episode 105, or any episode in between, who'd find Vijay's stunts today acceptable. We've also seen her hurt towards him build and build- but being outraged on behalf of someone else was an easier conduit for all that than being outraged on behalf of herself. So this unacceptable stunt, on top of all that's been getting pent up, I feel this situation would have played out the same way even if she didn't know Raghav's past. She pulled him out of the house, and explicitly asked him to respect himself, even before the revelation. Pallavi is driven by her sense of righteousness above all, and will only accept injustice when she's the victim 😆 Baaki puri duniya ke liye jang ke maidaan mein utarne ko taiyaar rehti hai.

And that's why Sharda wasn't in the scene either- she wouldn't have stood for this, ever. Neither does she have Sulochana's sadism, nor Milind's mild manner- her recent silence has been for the sake of Vijay's health, but she'd have drawn a firm line today, much like the day she took off her mangalsutra.

But Raghav, I think, is interpreting this as her pity/obligation/generosity in response to his loneliness, so he's trying to set her free.

@bold- agree 100%.

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

Raghav's fallen hard, no doubt about it. Pallavi has too, but I get the feeling he's in deeper right now. Were they to separate today, as things stand, I can see Pallavi managing to move on eventually, but I feel like Raghav would be in this for life, with or without her.

But even then, his insecurities will get in the way of him being vocal about his love, at least till he's absolutely certain she reciprocates it from her heart, and not out of any obligation. And she's yet to have that clarity herself.

I used to think that too, that he's in deeper but no, she's actually in all the way, no insecurity or doubts in her mind. She wants to be with him, be his wife, be PRR. It's just that she hasn't been thinking simply about romance or love but about the entire thing.

He, on the other hand, is just happy to have a sense of belonging after all these years but his guilt and difficult past will cloud his judgment. He might need to be reassured a few times.

They are both in it for the long haul but may not be able to articulate it yet. I love this!!!!

I am really looking forward to their scenes in RR mansion.

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

At the Deshmukh house (though technically Janakamma's :P I love how they just act like it's their own place), I was really struck by how physically in tune with each other these two were. First, when she was walking out for the first time, and paused for her final attack, Raghav paused the very same instant- there wasn't even a momentary lag, and he paused in step with her. And then again, when they were finally walking out, how she reached for his hand and it was already there to wrap around hers, without any communication or eye contact.

The chemistry and passion and connection between them is palpable. I doubt anyone can miss it- and I guess that's what gets Vijay, Sulochana and Mansi even more frustrated.

@bold ... this... I also mentioned this in a couple of posts. It might seem like a small thing but it's such an important non-verbal element that shows you exactly how in sync they have become in such a short period of time. It's beautiful to watch. The screenplay is what brings it all together and they never fail to impress us in that regard.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

@bold - you are right. She has given him all the assurance one could possibly ask for.. Literally hammered the message as forcefully as she could..I mean could she be anymore clear? But he is an insecure guy when it comes to relationships..years of guilt and rejection has hardwired him to believe that he is unworthy. Buying ticket I guess is his way of making sure that the deal part has got nothing to do with what she said or how she feels about him..

It's like first he needed that assurance, and when he got that in an unexpected way, he couldn't handle it because the stuff got serious from her end too. Kaee baar hota hai jab jo chahte hain, mil jaata hai toh samjh nahin aata what to do... This made him feel more and I guess with that came more emotions, and the courage to go beyond himself maybe and test the waters..

@bold: He himself said so, nafrat ke saath jeene ki aadat ho gayi hai, he isn't used to care and affection and back then he used to flinch at it..

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

'I love you' feels a little feeka now, in light of 'Main tumhare saamne apna sab kuch haar chuka hoon', and 'Lo, ban gaye tum meri priority, family ko chhodkar tumhe choose kar rahi hoon'. I doubt the 'I love you's will give me the same feels that these moments have been.

Totally agree. My expectations are even higher now of what will happen when the floodgates open and these two no longer hold back from talking about their feelings for one another. I can't even imagine how beautiful it's going to. So glad that they will go with a different route than the typical ITV way.

The scene in KRPKAB where Dev tells Sonakshi he loves her in such a simple way is what makes it iconic.

I would rather see them avoid the typical I love you in this show and come up with something unique. I have faith in the writers. Also, can't wait to see Raghav get all romantic and how Pallavi responds, and vice versa.

Loved today’s episode 🔥

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

When I first saw this train tickets wala precap, I was a bit miffed at him, especially after today, again, she emphasized- let me make my own decisions. But then in context of the episode, it felt alright to me. Raghav is in deep, but he has no reason to believe that Pallavi is as well. Her blow-up at Vijay today came from a place of righteousness, and he doesn't know that her own feelings for him were a part of it too. And in a sense, he's right- I believe Pallavi would have jumped to the defense of anyone being treated the way Vijay was treating Raghav. He doesn't want her to stick around because of obligations, to resolve his family issues, or out of pity for his backstory, and he knows that if either of those reasons were indeed what were keeping her back, she'd never ask for an out herself. So he's just giving it to her.

Pallavi will be justifiably hurt though- how many times will she have to demand the right to make her own decisions?

@bold- I'm wondering all of this too, and fairly excited about the future story.

At first I thought he was in a sacrificial mode but then I realized that he was also just doing right by her. He forced her to marry him for his selfish reasons and now he's setting her free to undo that and ensure she goes to people who really love her, 'cause it's pretty clear to them both that the Ds are the last place she should be. He also realizes that the atmosphere at the Raos isn't exactly the best at the moment after all three of them exploded because of Sunny. He doesn't want her to once again end up entangled in solving his family problems like she used to do with the Ds.

He knows she's from that school of thought that takes marriage and relationships seriously. She will honor the commitment no matter what. A marriage has the emotional side and the more 'practical' side in terms of responsibilities to your spouse. I love it that while as a husband he is so focused on his responsibilities and commitment to her (even though he never explicitly said so), he wants her to only have to worry about the emotional part, i.e. be happy, enjoy the beauty and bliss marriage brings without being burdened by a sense of responsibility. That's why letting her go seems to him to be the right thing to do. Not sure if I'm explaining this the right way... sigh...

Originally posted by: inlieu

I used to think that too, that he's in deeper but no, she's actually in all the way, no insecurity or doubts in her mind. She wants to be with him, be his wife, be PRR. It's just that she hasn't been thinking simply about romance or love but about the entire thing.

He, on the other hand, is just happy to have a sense of belonging after all these years but his guilt and difficult past will cloud his judgment. He might need to be reassured a few times.

They are both in it for the long haul but may not be able to articulate it yet. I love this!!!!

I am really looking forward to their scenes in RR mansion.

Pallavi's accepted the marriage fully. In my view, she's where Raghav was the night he stopped her from going to Kohlapur- not yet driven by love, but completely willing to make this work. Raghav's moved on from that stage, and has a bit of a headstart on her. She's moving fast though, and I think she'll catch up soon.

God, I'm so happy about the move back. I really, truly, appreciate the content and even the aesthetics delivered to us despite major constraints, but I'm bored of this 1BHK apartment they're trying to pass as a mansion.

Originally posted by: Diya2021

I think by saying he is her priority now, she has implied indirectly that she is not doing anything out of obligation but he is a stubborn fool. He is Raghav Rao and when he gives a promise he has to fulfill it. He is still stuck in that so can’t see what she is trying to tell him. I can clearly understand how her frustration has made her take the broom.

She yelled at him already for talking about going back to the D house to fix the mess as soon as they got back home. For someone born smart, he can sometimes miss the point totally.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Totally agree. My expectations are even higher now of what will happen when the floodgates open and these two no longer hold back from talking about their feelings for one another. I can't even imagine how beautiful it's going to. So glad that they will go with a different route than the typical ITV way.

The scene in KRPKAB where Dev tells Sonakshi he loves her in such a simple way is what makes it iconic.

I would rather see them avoid the typical I love you in this show and come up with something unique. I have faith in the writers. Also, can't wait to see Raghav get all romantic and how Pallavi responds, and vice versa.

@bold, absolutely loved it. Sonakshi - Naam bhi khoobsurat aur aap bhi..Dead in Dev-Sona world. But yeah, ab expectations high hai from Raghavi.