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Posted: 4 years ago
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I feel Virat thinks its of no use talking to Pakhi at all. He has already tried many times. Even in the scene with Sunny ,many times he expressed in a subtle way that there is no use talking to Pakhi and I liked that disgusted look he gave Pakhi when she offered that she will accompany him to the hospital.I guess he feels he needs to draw boundaries when he is talking to Pakhi bcos she is totally crazy. He cannot go beyond a level. So even I somehow liked today's episode though Virat didn't have much to say. Whatever he did he did it in a dignified manner.

Of course in last week's episodes a few dialogues could have been given to him here and there.The main problem is the plot is being dragged like anything and it is the same argument that crops up again and again between the protagonists.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Lakshmi, loved your post. I agree with you. Virat conveyed everything through his eyes and the way he tells Sai SHHH was because he couldn't say anything else infront of his family. Maybe he would have handled her differently in the privacy of their lives bedroom. I wish he had heard Papi's nonsense. He behaved how he usually does. No shouting. He was calm as usual,but conveyed what he wanted. He stopped Kaku from shouting at Sai and stopped her from leaving. And, the reason he gave was simple and straight that he was her husband. That's it. And,once again very soft. Neil was awesome today. Hope to see more such scenes in future.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Agree. To be honest I feel Virat is fed-up of Pakhi. Who won't? She's simply not ready to let go of him. Time and again Virat has shown his disgust but all in vain. And,so after a point he has stopped saying anything to her. I guess he feels it's better to ignore her as much as possible instead of banging his head on the wall.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

asmi joya

Also his expressions when he got to know about Sai lacked impact.. I cannot as a viewer feel his bechaini, his chatpatahat..Call it lack in continuation , the script , the dialogues or the character it all lacked the impact... And since he is one actor who has mostly rose above the script and that is why we still are able to justify Virat, he failed today for me.. Today was his worst performance for me.


Since my post is about Neil Of today I will Answer this part only.

Why should he be surprised or bechain when this is what he knew will happen at the end of the day? He knew in the hospital itself that Sai will leave. He said it there only. He felt relieved then hearing Sai say she will come home. He still got the chance at home to stop her. In a way he is prepared to meet the challenge and he proceeded just in right direction.

Bechaini,Pyar bhara looks all those already happened at different points of time whenever Sai said that she will leave. Today is the moment he has to act.With adhikar,with right and with resolve. There are no two ways left ..since I am your husband I am stopping you with that haq..that is the straight mantra he used and Sai Joshi gasped on hearing that.

Neil’s expressions I repeat bang on. How nicely he conveyed his resolve to keep their relationship intact! I am impressed.

Even if you know what is to come , when the moment actually comes you are disoriented, disturbed, impacted. However how you deal with it is a different matter. The first reaction is still something that bothers you. Bechaini/chatpatahat when the moment comes cannot be removed from picture, just because one has shown it before. SInce he has claimed that he cant live without Sai, as per me when the scene came it demanded Bechaini/chatpatahat from Virat even if it has been shown earlier countless time, because that moment was finally there. Coming back to his sudden "I am your husband" , well that again does not go with the previous encounters and scenes.

Like I said, its not about Virat and Sai scene particularly. Sai and Virat scenes are always great no denying that. Its his reactions to the abuse that Sai has to deal and here I am not talking about his dialogue and him coming in between the conversation, I have lost hope in that, I am simply talking about his reactions to those insults.. Hi expressions when she is being called out that way, which were far better before the whole ousting happened. Neil has always risen above the script, since he hardly gets dialogues to speak. Even during Alta scene confrontation, he did not get anything much to speak to his elders who created a ruckus and made him speak nonsense about Sai.. But his parting look at then all , said it that he is pissed mighty pissed. Thats why I say in the past he has risen above the scripts and the dialogues , the lack of it actually and for me I did not see that in last few episodes and today as well.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

After reading some of the posts saying Neil is not good,expressionless,not intense,tired etc in today’s episode I am making my first post in this forum. I used to make so many posts in KRPKB forum and Nitu knows that. Here I was never tempted to make posts till today. I just made comments and that’s it.

Virat entered after the whole fiasco ended up with Sai going upstairs to pack her things. He sensed something again happened in his absence on seeing Aswini’s state. As always Pakhi tried to poison his mind by giving her version of what happened there and Virat looked not interested in hearing her bakwas.When Sai came down with bags Pakhi again started her nonsense. Virat is hearing how Sai is shutting up Pakhi and like always he did not interfere. By now we should get used to it..he did not speak in the recent episode where major show down happened Reg Vaada. Any way that day I wanted him to speak Atleast for the nasty comment of Pakhi calling Sai as nurse..that is a different matter.

Today I didn’t feel it necessary for Virat to speak between Pakhi and Sai. Virat today is bothered only about Sai’s resolution to leave the house and nothing else. And he did it in the Virat Chavan way. No shouting,no hungama just the right choice of words. When Kaku tried to intrude he just raised his hand to shut her up.

Virat knew Sai would not keep quiet and she continued but in a firm yet soft voice and I liked it.

Then Virat approached her,shh...he said ,closed the doors and firmly answered Sai’s query regarding his right to stop her. He spelled the ultimate truth of their relationship . For once Sai also gasped in hearing what she wanted to hear from him.,She is not his zamedari. She is his wife and he said it.

There is no need of holding hands or bringing up more intensity. Neil did it perfectly. He would have done that differently may be if they are in their private space but before his elders he is to the point,firm and clear.

I disagree with everyone who says Neil is not in his element,he is off,not acting well...Neil knows what he has to do. He is in his charecter and portraying Virat with all his flaws in a way that no one else can do like he does.

Taking this opportunity to tell that Sia gave a beautiful interpretation to the episode about Virat closing the doors etc in EDT thread.. I wish all the members read it to know how significant it is ..I mean Virat’s way of dealing with Sai..today.

Want to say some more regarding yesterday’s hospital Sairat scenes. It is quite natural for a couple to behave normal even without clearing issues. Confrontations,clearances stay on one side but emotions rule hearts on another side. Sairat care for each other ..that is why they react like true lovers keeping aside their differences. Virat may not realise his share of faults specially in Vaada confrontation issue but that won’t pull him down from being besotted with his lovely wife who came all the way to hospital to be with him. It happens this way only in normal life between couples who are bonded by emotion of love which is beyond reasoning and logic



Thank you

Lakshmi ( This is my name though I never used it here)



heyyy!!! thank you!! ❤️


For virat what mattered was SAI! his only goal and his eyes were fixated on his wife, nothing else mattered to him... and he did he stopped her!

sai was overwhelmed, she wanted this, she wanted him to stop her with the haq of being her husband, giving her the place infront of everyone as a wife, her eyes were num, and her face softened when he said I have made my decision, no one will go anywhere.... she knows once he has made his mind he will stop her!

him walking over to her was also so poignant! he was standing where his family was and sai alone on the other side, he walks to her and stays there showing he is with her... standing by her and behind her in her battles!

she said you cannot stop me and he walked to close the door!

he walks to her and tells her shhh nothing more to say I have said you won't leave so you won't

she asks him by which right are you stopping me!

he says it in crystal clear words HER HUSBAND!

not zimmedari, farz, dosti, vaada to her abba, etc etc.... HER HUSBAND!

he has claimed his right over her as her partner. she used the same right to get to him in the hospital and today he uses it to stop her.... that one statement as your husband was enough for sai! she gets his support as a wife! she is no longer the responsibility, she is the saathi the partner through everything.

She loves him and he is giving her the right to fall in love with him, for him his stand is clear I LOVE SAI AND SHE IS MY WIFE! nothing else matters to him, he is human and makes mistakes! he is flawed no doubt but to him his eyes only see her and no one else

He will in his own jalebi way clear the vaada.....


sairat is full of parallels!

today he closes the door the same way he did on her face... but today it was to stop her to claim his right on her.....

another parallel!!

they say when you are married you take on your SO's behaviors, actions etc, its easy to draw parralels! you also start looking like one another! just see sairat and all this fits!

like I have said they are each others extremes! together they bring a balance....

like ying and yang... you need both for balance, and if one sees the ying-yang carefully, the white has a litle black and vice versa..

that fits for any relationship also!


you know its ironic but tables have turned... now pakhi is the farz, he gave her a vaada and that guilt kills him... he is a nice guy!

and sai is the pyaar.....

watch the shaadi ka episode, he was so confident that sai will only be my farz nothing else..... and today she is his one true love!

one should never play with destiny!




Here are the comments I made about virat and his stand!

He lts sai fight her own battles, he knows she is capable!

Tell me something is it better to defend a person behind their back or when they are there capable of fighting their own battles? the first right, that is what he does.... he will stand for her when he knows she cannot and he will speak up!

TO him what matters is HER and only her! his life revolves around her.... main duty join karna chahta hoon kyunki main sai ke baare aur nahi sochna chahta!

i know people want him to speak up but that is how he is made, and sai knows that! she does not need him to fight her battles and she knows when he butts in the situation escalates....

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I have always maintained. Neil is a brilliant actor.. The characterisation of Virat is so poor that its only this actor that has made us love him and still defend him..

But recently more than being appalled or disgusted he looks. confused or has that let go attitude when Sai is being insulted..Its rightly pointed out by the viewers...Mind it the insults have gone inhuman the abuse worse than before the Ladakh track..And at time Virat was more expressive in his disapproval towards the atrocities that happens on his wife. Now that he is love there is nothing much from his sides.. He shows hardly anything when it comes to those atrocious words spoken against Sai..And not to forget his vaada that she would not be insulted in CN anymore.. He has extreme reactions when it comes to Sai and hardly any when the criminals and Patralekha cross lines.. Compare his reactions to Sonali calling Sai a motherless child and Omi talking to her in the way he talks after he is out as a criminal. His reactions to Patralekha insulting Sai for being fed by Usha Mausi and his reactions when Patralekha calls he names, khudgarz and also all those things she spoke recently and in today's episode.. There was hardly any intensity and impact when PP said Sai is brainwashing Devi..I feel disconnected with him and his acting and Sairat scenes good or bad in continuation to what has happened in the previous scene is not working for me. It might work if I dont see the episode as a whole and just those scenes/clips. However if I bring in the continuation part of it, he is leaving me absolutely disappointed. Today was the worst. Virat's reactions to Patralekha leaving was far more profound than Sai leaving.

Also his expressions when he got to know about Sai lacked impact.. I cannot as a viewer feel his bechaini, his chatpatahat..Call it lack in continuation , the script , the dialogues or the character it all lacked the impact... And since he is one actor who has mostly rose above the script and that is why we still are able to justify Virat, he failed today for me.. Today was his worst performance for me.

Having said that, I do feel he is stagnated because is not able to connect to Virat like all of us and is just doing his job. Before he understood Virat and his reactions to certain incidents and hence we could see him speaking through his eyes, even when he hardly got dialogues. When actors like him feel the disconnect with their character its seen in the scenes. As it is Virat's characterization is too bad.. Everything is adding to the bad portrayal. Its high time they have a talk about the character , Copy KD or no Copy KD.


Exactly. Neil usually delivers. But for me today he didnt. I found him good in the akdi hui gardan, missing Sai and hospital scene but not today. Something seemed off.

I understand that today the focus was just to stop Sai but that doesn't mean we dont register his reaction to the comments made by pp. I know he is not focused on fighting her but just a simple- bass or even a glare to shut her up would have been nice. He usually was fantastic in his nonverbal gestures of disgust/disagreement that it didnt matter that he didn't get dialogues. but today when he learns Sai is leaving, the scene is supposed to show how affected that makes him. I think its directed decently but could have been better. I understood that -He calmly exerts his haq by shutting the door and reminding her hes her husband. But it still needed more conviction in his mannerisms n voice. Sai appropriately looks confused/flustered. As soon as Virat refuses to let her go, she drops her strong facade and is only concerned about what/why/how of Virat stopping her. You can see she is giving her rebuttaks just because, but she does not really want to leave him. He can definitely hold her hand gently like during shivratri time. I thought the scene needed physical contact because the verbal impact didn't come through.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Svt611



heyyy!!! thank you!! ❤️


For virat what mattered was SAI! his only goal and his eyes were fixated on his wife, nothing else mattered to him... and he did he stopped her!

sai was overwhelmed, she wanted this, she wanted him to stop her with the haq of being her husband, giving her the place infront of everyone as a wife, her eyes were num, and her face softened when he said I have made my decision, no one will go anywhere.... she knows once he has made his mind he will stop her!

him walking over to her was also so poignant! he was standing where his family was and sai alone on the other side, he walks to her and stays there showing he is with her... standing by her and behind her in her battles!

she said you cannot stop me and he walked to close the door!

he walks to her and tells her shhh nothing more to say I have said you won't leave so you won't

she asks him by which right are you stopping me!

he says it in crystal clear words HER HUSBAND!

not zimmedari, farz, dosti, vaada to her abba, etc etc.... HER HUSBAND!

he has claimed his right over her as her partner. she used the same right to get to him in the hospital and today he uses it to stop her.... that one statement as your husband was enough for sai! she gets his support as a wife! she is no longer the responsibility, she is the saathi the partner through everything.

She loves him and he is giving her the right to fall in love with him, for him his stand is clear I LOVE SAI AND SHE IS MY WIFE! nothing else matters to him, he is human and makes mistakes! he is flawed no doubt but to him his eyes only see her and no one else

He will in his own jalebi way clear the vaada.....


sairat is full of parallels!

today he closes the door the same way he did on her face... but today it was to stop her to claim his right on her.....

another parallel!!

they say when you are married you take on your SO's behaviors, actions etc, its easy to draw parralels! you also start looking like one another! just see sairat and all this fits!

like I have said they are each others extremes! together they bring a balance....

like ying and yang... you need both for balance, and if one sees the ying-yang carefully, the white has a litle black and vice versa..

that fits for any relationship also!


you know its ironic but tables have turned... now pakhi is the farz, he gave her a vaada and that guilt kills him... he is a nice guy!

and sai is the pyaar.....

watch the shaadi ka episode, he was so confident that sai will only be my farz nothing else..... and today she is his one true love!

one should never play with destiny!




Here are the comments I made about virat and his stand!

He lts sai fight her own battles, he knows she is capable!

Tell me something is it better to defend a person behind their back or when they are there capable of fighting their own battles? the first right, that is what he does.... he will stand for her when he knows she cannot and he will speak up!

TO him what matters is HER and only her! his life revolves around her.... main duty join karna chahta hoon kyunki main sai ke baare aur nahi sochna chahta!

i know people want him to speak up but that is how he is made, and sai knows that! she does not need him to fight her battles and she knows when he butts in the situation escalates....


I feel like this interpretation is great, beautiful. But it didn't all come through in the body language and gestures always.

Sai can fight her own battles but it does not look right for him to stay mute when she is degraded in front of him but take a stance to interrupt when pp hears what she actually deserves. Sai fighting her own battles doesn't mean he watches the Sai vs CN matches go on without any attempt to stop people saying rubbish to her.

We all know Virats true feelings about Sai n pp but his behavior in past few episodes is a yo yo.

Everything you said is in his heart/head but is not consistent in his body language. One day its there, one day its not!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Why for once he shuts every one by saying it - that yes I had a past with Pakhi and that was a mistake- and now I know Sai is my wife , and she is my priority and my live as well.
shutting every one and keeping pakhi in her limits and giving Sai dignity

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Sia


Thank you for making your interpretation posted here . It was really one of the best posts I read.


Niraja, asmijoya


Actually I am one among those who is miffed with Virat’s silence specially towards Pakhi and I never hesitated to say so.

Today I felt Virat had a different purpose which is more important for him to deal with. His focus is on that and he just concentrated and executed what he thought to stop Sai. He just ignored all the rubbish spelt by Pakhi and I am fine with it.

And I understand your point also and respect your thoughts.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts,a pleasure to read.



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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91


I feel like this interpretation is great, beautiful. But it didn't all come through in the body language and gestures always.

Sai can fight her own battles but it does not look right for him to stay mute when she is degraded in front of him but take a stance to interrupt when pp hears what she actually deserves. Sai fighting her own battles doesn't mean he watches the Sai vs CN matches go on without any attempt to stop people saying rubbish to her.

We all know Virats true feelings about Sai n pp but his behavior in past few episodes is a yo yo.

Everything you said is in his heart/head but is not consistent in his body language. One day its there, one day its not!

My point is not about Virat not supporting Sai today.. Certainly it was between Patralekha and Sai today.. No denying that ..For that matter even the other day it was mostly between them.. But coming to today's expressions..I did not see any disgust and disagreement or for that matter any reaction to Patralekha calling out Sai double faced and wanting to filr a case against her.. He was purely flat. I did not expect him to even say a word. Here I am just talking about his expressions..Because its those minute expressions, that has always stood out.. I remember we praising him during the Shivratri confrontation between Sai and Kaku, where Sai said why people here have issues with a moment between husband and wife and why is it a problem if wife accompanies husband... He brought out an expression of disgust during the first dialogue and of approval in the second.. That was him rising above the script that hardly gives him dialogues that does not write his character well. I am not sure if I am able to convey on what I am trying to say.. Its not even about what Virat should have stood for Sai today...certainly not.. Its about the expressions on verbal abuses hurled at Sai or to put it correctly the lack of it.. I am re-iterating , Neil has a tendency to rise above the script but recently he has not been doing it.

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