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Posted: 4 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: LoveHopeMagic


I can come up with many reasons why she stays quiet but I will share one I like the best. CVS does not want her to open up because they want Raghav to share that to Pallavi. I will prefer to see this. 😆


LOL, I also feel the same, and it would be much more effective for her to find out everything from him. She will also learn about his side of the story, which Amma might not even know about.

I like that these two are having more conversations and I hope they learn to become comfortable with discussing uncomfortable topics with one another.

I'm hoping there might be a scene where these two are up all night talking about it, Raghav breaks down while telling her what he went through, her being shocked, broken, and completely overwhelmed because she will feel his pain and cry with him too. This might be what makes her decide to stay with him because she finally gets what made him the way he is today.

I think shooting restrictions will make it hard to film that mob scene, so I'd rather they wait until things are improved so that we can get proper flashbacks. Hotels don't seem the ideal location for this, plus we need to go back to RR mansion so that she can see that replica room he built in there.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: inlieu

Interesting that you saw the scene like that. I saw it more as Pallavi standing firm, making her own decisions despite the challenges, but Raghav always standing behind her in support, silent or otherwise.

I thought it the same way you did too because we have seen this kind alot in our show. There is always either Raghav or his photo behind Pallavi whenever she is in the house.

Then I tried to see it differently because Pallavi likes to stand beside him than before him or she likes him beside her than behind her. Because when she met aai in the restaurant, Pallavi looked beside her for him when actually he was standing behind. And after moving away from VD she went back to stand beside him.

That last frame, I loved it so much, when she stood before him, he was hidden not completely though so she can't protect him always from d family or anyone. I thought her as a shield because even VD said that, Raghav is safe because he has Pallavi with him.

Then she moved a bit then Raghav was shown, it was like you said, him always being behind her or that she can't always protect him.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

I noticed him looking to Pallavi too. Right now, he's a man on a mission to get Pallavi to see him as a good person. He's a target oriented person, he has a deadline, and he's laser focused. And he knows he has given Pallavi reason enough to mistrust him, so he doesn't begrudge her for her hesitance, he understands he has a lot to make up for. He didn't realise that he has to prove his goodness to Jaya and Kirti as well, and in the last 24 hours they shattered that illusion for him. One of my favorite bits of acting by Sai yesterday was all of the confidence just instantly draining out of him when Jaya refused to believe him.

I also loved the reflective scenes written for both Raghav and Pallavi today. Raghav is floored that Pallavi took his side, despite him giving her enough and more reasons not to. Like he said, up until 3-4 days back, he's constantly just hurt her. Pallavi, I'm glad she contemplated why she is trusting his so easily. If she weren't having that internal struggle, she'd just have gone from blind-Deshmukh-trust to blind-Raghav-trust, and that would have been quite dumb on her part. Pallavi is now using both her mind and her heart, and I'm enjoying seeing that.

On Jaya, I'm really conflicted right now. For all their faults, I don't mind watching Deshmukh scenes at all, since they're consistently written characters. So is Kirti for that matter. Jaya is just all over the damn place, and I was really quite angry at her treatment of Pallavi today. She's a person, not an object.

When she felt like it. she decided Pallavi should marry Raghav, and was joyously attending the wedding. She knew what Raghav had done, how Pallavi had been shamed and thrown out, did she really think this wedding was happening consensually? Now, she has decided that Pallavi should leave. Does she ever think about what Pallavi wants? She and Vijay are identical in this regard, completely ignoring her agency. I'm glad Pallavi called her out on this, and I'm glad she's done letting others decide her life for her, be it Vijay, Raghav, or Jaya.

I'm glad Jaya is back to her old self, I hated her gushing-RaghVi-fangirl mode. Like what's up with her?? She told Raghav he should have died in her womb, then told Kirti (when called out on forcing the wedding) that she can never stop loving her son, all teary eyed and vouching for his goodness by citing the old age home, and then she again thinks of him as the devil reincarnate. I'd even understand her having an internal battle between loving her son and holding him responsible for the deaths of her husband and other son, but it's so poorly written. She's never conflicted, just on one extreme or the other.

I think, today's scene would have made more sense with Kirti. She was always against the marriage since she could see it's not happening with Pallavi's best interests or with her consent. She called Jaya out for being selfish. She's had a good relationship with Pallavi, and cares for her wellbeing far more than Raghav's, with whom her relationship has been consistently strained. Keeping their years long friendship and comfort level in mind, it would be in character, and even a lot more appropriate, for her to say, "Pallavi, enough of this madness, and you being trapped between my mother, my brother and your father's power plays. Get the hell out of this mess, I'm packing your bags. You were supposed to go to Kohlapur in a month, right? Cut your losses and go today, live a peaceful life."

And even the hesitance with sharing the past would have made more sense with her, since just yesterday, Jaya was happy to give Pallavi the details in the coffee shop, so again her flip seemed to come out of nowhere.

I really loved the way you expressed yourself in this post. I feel Jaya's character needs to be written better and a proper arc set up for her, instead of just responding to what Raghav or Pallavi do. What about her own motivations and feelings, I want to see it. In the scene where Raghav was talking to Farhad about Amma, we got that rarara music, which immediately brought back the old Amma's scenes, where things felt much more natural. Anyway, no point thinking about the change in actress but Amma is an important character on the show and her dynamics with Raghav have a huge impact on his life and those around him, so we need a proper track and arc for her.


Sai's body language was so so good as we saw Raghav standing there listening to Sanki, Amma, and Pallavi talk about him. He seemed to be deflated and visibly broken by Amma's words but the moment Pallavi stood up for him, he stood tall with his back straight again, and the confidence visible in his yes and posture once more. He's doing a great job of all this. I also loved that they show him tear up but those tears are unshed until much later, when he's talking to Farhad, very much in keeping with his character.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: LoveHopeMagic

I thought it the same way you did too because we have seen this kind alot in our show. There is always either Raghav or his photo behind Pallavi whenever she is in the house.

Then I tried to see it differently because Pallavi likes to stand beside him than before him or she likes him beside her than behind her. Because when she met aai in the restaurant, Pallavi looked beside her for him when actually he was standing behind. And after moving away from VD she went back to stand beside him.

That last frame, I loved it so much, when she stood before him, he was hidden not completely though so she can't protect him always from d family or anyone. I thought her as a shield because even VD said that, Raghav is safe because he has Pallavi with him.

Then she moved a bit then Raghav was shown, it was like you said, him always being behind her or that she can't always protect him.

Yeah, I guess they will take turns looking after and protecting each other.

What did you think of that scene where Raghav was standing alone and remembering Sanki's words and they focused on his massive photo behind him? I have been trying to decipher that because it clearly meant something, but not sure what? Could it be that he will have to become the old RR again just to avoid going to jail and figure this one out? Because I don't think they will send him to jail at this stage of the story, plus he's too rich and powerful to be punished by Sanki at this point in the story.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yeah, I guess they will take turns looking after and protecting each other.

What did you think of that scene where Raghav was standing alone and remembering Sanki's words and they focused on his massive photo behind him? I have been trying to decipher that because it clearly meant something, but not sure what? Could it be that he will have to become the old RR again just to avoid going to jail and figure this one out? Because I don't think they will send him to jail at this stage of the story, plus he's too rich and powerful to be punished by Sanki at this point in the story.

Yeah, they will. They will even protect the other from themselves too.

I really didn't give it much thoughts but I just watched that scene when you mentioned it here and I have always found that picture so real, so cunning yet so truthful. That look, that posture and that eyes, that is real Raghav Rao yet, I feel that , that is the true Raghav.

Even after he defamed pallavi, we got a scene in RR mansion where he was standing exactly like the photo but in two extreme characters. The one in the photo was so calm yet so dangerous, and the one who stood before was so distraught/he was like a wonded lion but so vulnerable. I thought that scene as, someone looking for him, someone is seeing how broken Raghav is, someone looking after him, we can say may be it's his father. So what I'm saying is I love that picture and we got one during reception too, Pallavi standing with the true Raghav.

So here may be it meant that he has to be the cunning RR to protect himself and then be the changing one again because they focused on him too. Which explains the way Raghav went about closing the branch and then opening it with the help of Pallavi. Raghav was thinking about VD 's words about pallavi being a shield too when the photo was focused.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#66

So I was working & suddenly certain scenes & dialogues of today's Episode flashed & created an entire different scenario in my mind.


I feel most of us as a Fandom are looking at the scenes with rose tinted glasses - that a Love Track is being played while maybe the scenes are to be interpreted on a totally different tangent.


Please do read further.


I think Pallavi still thinks ( or will eventually start thinking) whatever he's doing, it's eventually only to reach his Amma's heart - to give her proofs that he's a good child. A morally correct human. And not only cos of his guilt of what he did to her in the process. (She didn't see him having a panic attack on accounts of his guilt cos she was herself unconscious then) And it won't be wrong on her part too, it's basic human nature that you won't trust anyone immediately especially if there's no bond as such. And they didn't have any emotional bond between them when Raghav promised her at the station that he will change for only her.



Cos he keeps asking her now again & again, that you will stay back after 30days na. It's been just a few days & if he starts repeating these lines like a Tape-recorder every few days, she's bound to think this way.

He did say that he doesn't wanna live alone even in his drunk state but that's all he said. He didn't say specifically - Pallavi, I would be alone without you. Ofcourse, I know it's too soon for him to say that & for her to be anywhere ready to hear it yet.

To her, he might seem just like a lone human but not someone who might feel something for her. And that's why she might not answer that question even after she stays back after the 30days cos she would keep thinking internally - That all that what she feels, he will never feel for her.


In all the dialogues today - She mentioned that I couldn't take away your family by being selfish & going back to mine when you have just started to change yourself. I know you better than you know yourself. This was that line that made me interpret atleast half of what I have written here.



What if at the end of 30 days and many more months of staying together under one roof too, she thinks that he likes her just cos she was a medium through which he could reach his family but not because of who she is exactly. That he needs her only to not be alone..., he needs her but doesn't actually want her.

There's a big difference between need & want. And in Relationships, I believe it's innately about want. You should want each other, You should want to do things for each other, You should want to make each other happy. Not Need.



That's going to literally be very very chaotic for Her. There'll be a whole war brewing in her mind & noone to share it with.

Unless the dams break one day & she makes him see her reason that Dude, You like me for this reason(that I was able to help you get your family) but Not cos of me. And I can't take this anymore, that I might not be as important to you as You are to me....So I'm finally going away.


I really hope she speaks about her doubts to Krishna so somehow it reaches Raghav. Krishna will be a much needed support for her then as she has always been for her Didi. Else, these are gonna be pretty Emotional Turmoils filled days for both.



I know, I know, it was Raghav who told Pallavi at the station that he will change for Her but as Pallavi reminded herself today that he's Raghav Rao, he's like this & he might do these kind of things again . One drunken night will not suddenly change what you have come to think of the person for so long. It's gotta keep coming back & be there in her subconscious until they all sum up & she comes to the above conclusion cos that's human nature. If you're getting something that you never thought you would, you try to run away because you believe it to be too good to happen to you.


Tagging few of you to see what so you think of the above case cos for some reason this is not going away from my mind now.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Tagging few more of you to give opinions about my above post. Literally needed to get the scene out of my head before I get busy again😔

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: SONIA441

Tagging few more of you to give opinions about my above post. Literally needed to get the scene out of my head before I get busy again😔


Sonia you have rightly said Pallavi will always think Raghav needs her and she is not his want. She remembers what Raghav has said that she is not her heroine, He will never touch her blah blah🤣


Raghav will think he is not deserving to be Pallavi's husband and Pallavi will think he doesn't want her 😭 and we will get the most awaited angst.


This can take two route either Raghav will realise his love for Pallavi and move heaven and earth to keep her with him or think he is not deserving or for Pallavi letting her go


Dekhte hai kya milta hai

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Posted: 4 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: inlieu

As much as she wants to prove him innocent for the sake of Sanki, Amma, Keerti, etc. she wants to do it for herself too, to prove to herself that she was right to give him a chance and to support him in this matter.

Plus, she knows what he did to support her during the abortion fiasco even if they were so-called enemies back then.

She saw the truth in his eyes now..on top her heart says to look at his innocence..& somewhere there is heart also which she is following after Krishna boosting her..where she was in dilemma

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: SONIA441

Tagging few more of you to give opinions about my above post. Literally needed to get the scene out of my head before I get busy again😔

True 😆


She will not think that he can actually love her 😆 boy already passed so many comments 🤪 romance Nahi hoga , you’re not my heroine etc etc 😆 she will think he is with her mainly because of Amma


Raghav will also not think that pallavi can love him as he is shaitaan in his opinion also he runs from love so will naturally try to deny his feelings

Pallavi might recognise her feelings but will refrain from confessing fearing rejection


This can be such an interesting Track if executed well and I think makers are heading towards such conflict in future 😆

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