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Posted: 4 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: ShanviSia

Baba, Amma are such irritating characters too🤣 Amma asking Raghav to marry Pallu is just pure crap. She thinks herself as maahan for giving Pallavi a future partner - aka, her son🤣 This is the same son she hated and that she stayed apart for 10 years and look at her deciding his future 🤢

Exactly! I don't care what sentimental background music they put on as Amma explains her thought process, I'm not buying it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Are you noticing any shift in Raghav's attitude towards Pallavi? Eversince he is done with his stupid revenge on her, he seems to have become calmer.. One, amma, Keerthi and Farhad none of them agree with him about Pallavi's involvememt in the MMS and he himself was in doubt before he literally forced himself to focus on her words that self implicated her.. So maybe subconsciously he has given her a clean chit? Second, Pallavi is the reason he is getting his family back.. Wouldn't that count for anything? He may not like her, or appreciate her or he may simply be too proud to show all of that..but he doesnt seem to hate her anymore. Unless Pallavi again says something that he can hold against her.. I have a feeling he will try to make it work.. I had a different idea/expectation about how Pallavi would go about things but after what she said about marriage and control of wives over husbands Im not sure what to expect.. Also, why didnt she tell him about her being a widow yesterday.. That wouldn't have deterred him from proposing this marriage, but he deserves to know...

I for one cannot gauge Raghav. But what I have felt is that the "hate" is slowly taking a back seat. His mother and sister can come home via Pallavi, so he is ensuring by all means that happens, and also he is clear Pallavi did not orchestrate this. This is all his mother's doing. Now when I reassess, in the promo, when he said this marriage are chains of bondage for her, he meant, she cannot leave him ever. Cause if she does, his family will leave too, and he cannot let that happen. So, I don't know how much he wants to make the marriage work, but what I can say, is he will try to keep her surrounded with all the things that can make her happy, to keep his family happy. And Pallavi will rebuff those attempts, cause she doesn't want anything of him. If Pallavi insists that she isn't a suhaagan, nor his wife, sooner or later, it will become a matter of his ego from keeping his family happy, to gain acceptance as her husband. And in this ego battle, he would slowly learn facts which he was blind to, and that ego would give way to the hate being washed away. Then that would give way to desire and wanting Pallavi for himself. From here, his struggle will begin, cause the alliance is a deal for Pallavi, but it will turn into marriage for Raghav. In short, bediyan hi rahengi Pallavi ke liye, pehle reason uski family hogi, aur later uske apne feelings honge.

Coming to Pallavi, only one word comes to my mind - Useless. She is such a useless woman, I tell you. None of her words hold value cause she has achieved nothing with yapping. And she does not have the mettle to match Raghav in being crafty and nasty. So all she can do is juvenile shit. But honestly, I would like them to keep her dignified, by using her silence and indifference to all of Raghav's tricks, to keep him in line.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Are you noticing any shift in Raghav's attitude towards Pallavi? Eversince he is done with his stupid revenge on her, he seems to have become calmer.. One, amma, Keerthi and Farhad none of them agree with him about Pallavi's involvememt in the MMS and he himself was in doubt before he literally forced himself to focus on her words that self implicated her.. So maybe subconsciously he has given her a clean chit? Second, Pallavi is the reason he is getting his family back.. Wouldn't that count for anything? He may not like her, or appreciate her or he may simply be too proud to show all of that..but he doesnt seem to hate her anymore. Unless Pallavi again says something that he can hold against her.. I have a feeling he will try to make it work.. I had a different idea/expectation about how Pallavi would go about things but after what she said about marriage and control of wives over husbands Im not sure what to expect.. Also, why didnt she tell him about her being a widow yesterday.. That wouldn't have deterred him from proposing this marriage, but he deserves to know...


Perhaps Pallavi thinks he knows already or she doesn't care because this is all part of a deal. He isn't even telling her what his majboori is and neither of them are talking about their personal investment and emotion in this marriage of convenience.


Raghav is neutral towards her. He may say he hates her to her face, but he doesn't really care either way. She's just a pawn for him right now. Regarding Keerti's incident and the Anjali MMS, he feels what he did the other day makes their hisaab baraabar, so he doesn't have a reason to fight with her. He's not the type to pick fights unnecessarily, at least not with her.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: LoveHopeMagic

@bold

I really thought only I had this problem😆. I agree that the scene was hot/beautiful and all, and I liked it when it is a part of the said fanfiction but there, that scene was not needed, atleast not in that intimate way. Fans were so happy with it and i thought, wow I'm the odd one out here.


She rememeber the scene after the bedroom scene not the inside one. 🤣

But that scene was executed so well. But I couldn't enjoy it that much, may be after some episodes when RR and Pallu become more than just enemies that scene will make more sense to me. There was an awkwardness around the room which really happens when they start to feel something for the other.


Haha yes, I think they were definitely giving the audience what they wanted during their need for filler. Understanding that, and the fact that they would use that moment of understanding to make the MU betrayal btwn each other more poignant, I enjoyed the scene. Although, it made the few epis post-Lion so difficult to disgust bc everything was a chaotic mess. I think they had to re-shoot some of the scenes (like Pallu getting thrown out of Trashmukh house) bc the story had altered slightly and location change. Initial scene was in original home whereas true scene happened in the new location.

I think Pallavi’s bleeding heart helped her in the bandaging bedroom scene. She’s so giving and does what she thinks is right despite the pushback so it allowed us to believe she would care for RR if he’s hurt. Also her hesitating to undress him and then putting the embarrassment aside to do her task helped make the scene fit a bit more. Maybe even RR’s seesaw opinion of her “she’s not so bad, she’s bad, she’s not so bad, etc “😆 made their voicenote and text exchange alright as well.


They’ve shown flashes of each other acknowledging one another in appeal ... but I wish they revisit the bedroom scene with different/developed feelings ☺️ being a don, I’m sure he’ll get into more fights 😆 hopefully like first epi where the gundas ripped his shirt off so Pallavi has less work to do 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: libran90

I for one cannot gauge Raghav. But what I have felt is that the "hate" is slowly taking a back seat. His mother and sister can come home via Pallavi, so he is ensuring by all means that happens, and also he is clear Pallavi did not orchestrate this. This is all his mother's doing. Now when I reassess, in the promo, when he said this marriage are chains of bondage for her, he meant, she cannot leave him ever. Cause if she does, his family will leave too, and he cannot let that happen. So, I don't know how much he wants to make the marriage work, but what I can say, is he will try to keep her surrounded with all the things that can make her happy, to keep his family happy. And Pallavi will rebuff those attempts, cause she doesn't want anything of him. If Pallavi insists that she isn't a suhaagan, nor his wife, sooner or later, it will become a matter of his ego from keeping his family happy, to gain acceptance as her husband. And in this ego battle, he would slowly learn facts which he was blind to, and that ego would give way to the hate being washed away. Then that would give way to desire and wanting Pallavi for himself. From here, his struggle will begin, cause the alliance is a deal for Pallavi, but it will turn into marriage for Raghav. In short, bediyan hi rahengi Pallavi ke liye, pehle reason uski family hogi, aur later uske apne feelings honge.

Coming to Pallavi, only one word comes to my mind - Useless. She is such a useless woman, I tell you. None of her words hold value cause she has achieved nothing with yapping. And she does not have the mettle to match Raghav in being crafty and nasty. So all she can do is juvenile shit. But honestly, I would like them to keep her dignified, by using her silence and indifference to all of Raghav's tricks, to keep him in line.

I agree, it's going to be Raghav who becomes emotionally invested in the marriage, even if it's initially for the sake of keeping his family with him and ensuring he doesn't upset them. I also think after a point he will just become used to having her in his life, in whatever form, a habit that he will find hard to break. While his equation with his mother would have improved and his overall feeling of loneliness would be gone or at least diminished, Pallavi's emotional distance will bother him because it will make his happiness feel incomplete.

I thought back to the promo too, and in a way, I feel as if the bediyaan will actually be for Raghav. He won't have much room to maneuver because he will always have to maintain this delicate balance. He can't cross his limits with her or with his mother and sister and will have to be cautious not to upset the apple cart. Pallavi has nothing to gain or lose from all this, and technically speaking she can walk out at any moment because she doesn't owe anyone anything. Raghav, on the other hand, doesn't have this luxury so he will have to work within the bounds of the relationship and try to maintain equilibrium.


As for Pallavi actually doing something, I don't even want to see where this goes. I expect silly household stuff but nothing major like hurting his business or teaching him a lesson. The yoyo example was just silly, at least, knowing her it won't be anything like we imagine.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#96

Bold - I agree. She is all talks and no show. That's why I also said that in the confrontation scene, she spoke some really heavy words but she is so clueless as to what she's going to do to make those words come true.... Raghav on the other hand does what he says, he doesn't go yap yap yap. He will start and end it and just as quickly, move away from it. He's more stable in that sense. I cannot relate to pallavi at all...In the beginning I could, for a while only but now she comes across as weak and a poor planner and someone who cannot hold her ground. She was already a poor business woman, Raghav was not wrong here. All she does is carry everyone's burdens and refuses to share her problems. It's like the whole worlds problems are on her shoulders, which is quite annoying because honestly she can easily delegate. What is Kaku doing? What is mansi doing? And Aai and sanki? Why do all problems become about her? Krishna also told her that not all problems arise because of her.


Originally posted by: libran90

I for one cannot gauge Raghav. But what I have felt is that the "hate" is slowly taking a back seat. His mother and sister can come home via Pallavi, so he is ensuring by all means that happens, and also he is clear Pallavi did not orchestrate this. This is all his mother's doing. Now when I reassess, in the promo, when he said this marriage are chains of bondage for her, he meant, she cannot leave him ever. Cause if she does, his family will leave too, and he cannot let that happen. So, I don't know how much he wants to make the marriage work, but what I can say, is he will try to keep her surrounded with all the things that can make her happy, to keep his family happy. And Pallavi will rebuff those attempts, cause she doesn't want anything of him. If Pallavi insists that she isn't a suhaagan, nor his wife, sooner or later, it will become a matter of his ego from keeping his family happy, to gain acceptance as her husband. And in this ego battle, he would slowly learn facts which he was blind to, and that ego would give way to the hate being washed away. Then that would give way to desire and wanting Pallavi for himself. From here, his struggle will begin, cause the alliance is a deal for Pallavi, but it will turn into marriage for Raghav. In short, bediyan hi rahengi Pallavi ke liye, pehle reason uski family hogi, aur later uske apne feelings honge.

Coming to Pallavi, only one word comes to my mind - Useless. She is such a useless woman, I tell you. None of her words hold value cause she has achieved nothing with yapping. And she does not have the mettle to match Raghav in being crafty and nasty. So all she can do is juvenile shit. But honestly, I would like them to keep her dignified, by using her silence and indifference to all of Raghav's tricks, to keep him in line.

Edited by Viewpoint - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: Viewpoint

I am still to watch the episode so I'll Res and revisit.

But Raghav is definitely not in revenge mode from what I can say. He loves her already, that boi just needs some reflecting to do. He's given her all the rights over him already, and has declared he'll be there forever (saw it in posts today).

The widow part....I think its being reserved for another MU 😆

The widow part is irrelevant in my opinion. They did not make a hue and cry about her being an orphan. Her being a widow won't be an issue. Her not accepting the wedding and her not turning out a widow (whenever Mandaar returns) would be more effective, in my opinion.

And what MU. They have enough of it. I mean Raghav has no interest in Pallavi or her life. It has been successfully made inconsequential in the eyes of Raghav.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Totally in line with both of your analyses of the promo and possibilities of RaghVi marriage .. honestly, can’t say it better myself.


@libran90 - you mentioned earlier that RR’s like “I’m forever yours” sounded sinister. I found it a bit bitter or double-edged in meaning. Almost like sarcasm .. which, along with Pallu’s yo-yo comment, makes me feel like both characters have no idea what in the world they want. They’re so naive and live in extremes that it’s no wonder their personal lives are so unbalanced.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: moksha89

Totally in line with both of your analyses of the promo and possibilities of RaghVi marriage .. honestly, can’t say it better myself.


@libran90 - you mentioned earlier that RR’s like “I’m forever yours” sounded sinister. I found it a bit bitter or double-edged in meaning. Almost like sarcasm .. which, along with Pallu’s yo-yo comment, makes me feel like both characters have no idea what in the world they want. They’re so naive and live in extremes that it’s no wonder their personal lives are so unbalanced.

They don't have a sense of purpose. For Raghav, it's to get his family back, but what next?

As for Pallavi, don't get me started.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: moksha89

Totally in line with both of your analyses of the promo and possibilities of RaghVi marriage .. honestly, can’t say it better myself.


@libran90 - you mentioned earlier that RR’s like “I’m forever yours” sounded sinister. I found it a bit bitter or double-edged in meaning. Almost like sarcasm .. which, along with Pallu’s yo-yo comment, makes me feel like both characters have no idea what in the world they want. They’re so naive and live in extremes that it’s no wonder their personal lives are so unbalanced.

Well, that was him being sarcastic alright. Could not help me, but laugh at his sarcasm😆. Cause his misery begins from these very lines. Today, he was mimicking SRK, and the context was, "You have no escaping me."

In the future, only the feelings will change, context won't. He won't let Pallavi escape from his love either. Don't know what stupidities he would come up with at that time.

And Pallavi's "Yo-Yo" comment, oh that just her mind playing "yo-yo" with her. In fact, her mind is a yo-yo. No escaping that shit, Raghav Anna.😆

Edited by libran90 - 4 years ago

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