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Posted: 4 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: LoveHopeMagic

I even understand BWA and lion too. They are humans and they want to take revenge for what happened to them or to their family. We are living in a world where the next step of revenge is murder. So here BWA is better in her own twisted way. And lion is like any man who wants take a revenge, he wants to end RR for sending him to jail. It is so understandable!

I can connect with all the characters of the show most of the time which I like so much. When I think from their side I can understand where they are coming from, which is the success of the show.

I hate it when the FL or ML is always correct. I mean how can a human be always correct?

I do believe that we humans have two sides, one good side and one bad side. Sometimes other overcome the other, sometimes it's vice versa. So it's acceptable. And I saw many saying Amma is being selfish here, then I ask, which amma is not selfish for her child? Most of all the mothers out there is selfish for their offsprings. So here even if she is selfish I don't find any fault in her too. Keerthi is being a reasonable one here, but I'm sure she has done mistakes too, or she will do mistakes... It's how we work.


So I like all the characters of the show. Be it RR or Pallu, or amma or deshmukhs. I like them bcoz they are humans not some supernatural creatures!


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Did you change your username? I was trying to figure out who it was! 😆


Edit: never mind, just saw your signature. LOL

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Posted: 4 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: inlieu

I agree, and I feel even worse because Ayi told Amma a lot about Pallavi's pain and trauma already. So it's not like she's unaware of her past. And you're right, Amma is looking the other way for now. She wants him to get married no matter what, and she knows very well that he'll move the heavens and earth to ensure he fulfils her condition. I want to see Amma regret this one day when her own son mistreats Pallavi in front of her and when Pallavi is hurt, because you can bet that will happen. Raghav itni jaldi nahin sudhrega, if ever. 😔

Sorry for jumping in..but like always couldn't help myself😆 Just wanted to say that most of the things that happen in these shows, are not possible in real life so its futile to find logic in every action of the characters. For instance-

1. Baba who is now suddenly so adamant on seeing Nikhil that he is getting anxiety attacks is just a way to put undue pressure on Pallavi and emphasise that there isnt really enough time for her to think and execute ideas, hire lawyer, get bail etc.. Otherwise, how hard it is to just tell him that Nikhil is out of town for x,y,z reason-college trip, friend's ill etc etc etc? And have Nikhil talk over the phone with him? But obviously they have to create a situation where Pallavi feels like she has no time and no option left..

2. Pallavi tries to mobilise SM to expose the corrupt inspector.. and backs down so easily when he says that Nikhil won't be given food and water?😆she could have threatened to speak about all that too on SM..Basically that effort that she made was obviously just symbolic to convey the message to the audience that she tried all options before accepting Raghav's deal..


Point Im trying to make is that Raghav Pallavi's wedding has to happen as that is the turning point in the story and given their equation it could have never happened by any ''fair'' means.. Amma is merely the facilitator..all the unrealistic situations around them are contributing towards that one important event in the story. I cant think of any fair mean by which this marriage was possible or most importantly even needed. Infact this is the least ''unfair'' means there is to get these two married..

In the show, if Raghav ill treats her, though I dont think he will dare to that infront of amma/Keerthi, but if he does when they are alone, then Pallavi should also show him who is the boss..she is not gonna sit around and take crap from him, going by what she said today.. So amma regretting her actions is out of question..we will thank her later lol

In reality, none of this is possible..

So khao, piyo, dekho, bhul jao😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: LoveHopeMagic

First thing is I don't hate Raghav. I adore him. I have never liked a character more in Itv. He is a perfect human, the character who is egoistic, who will do anything for what he wants and he is selfish too but that's what make him RR. And that's why I like that character alot.


I blame both. I don't understand why people have problems with either him or her. They are humans for God sake. They are meant to make mistakes and later to repent them. We all are like that then what is so different for them. I will never watch a show if the ML and FL are hundred percent perfect and who is perfect?


Here RR is at fault.

Pallu is at fault.

Amma is at fault

Deshmukhs are at fault.


At the end of the day they all are humans and all are different from the other, they have different lives too. So stop blaming one.

When you watch a show please try to watch it from all the characters' side, not your favorite's side.


Summed up my thoughts exactly !

I enjoy all the flaws in the characters bc it makes it that much more fun to analyze them && it’s entertaining that way. What I dislike is when writers drag a story/situation or create these out-of-character/ ill-fitting scenes just to fill cracks in plot and time. We experienced a week of that post-Lion, since Lion was technically a distraction form lots of cast quarantining, and to bring the story back into planned trajectory was brutal to watch.


As for watching the show from different characters POV, it’s definitely helpful. At times, it can help viewers keep up with a show and understand why a tract may go the way it does. Personally, I like to understand why people act and deal the way they do — if I don’t then I feel bad judging or commenting on their character (as fake as these people may be -like BWA & Baba LOL). I’m also a bit too empathetic - i get invested when I enjoy a show and need to know how the characters are developing 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Sorry for jumping in..but like always couldn't help myself😆 Just wanted to say that most of the things that happen in these shows, are not possible in real life so its futile to find logic in every action of the characters. For instance-

1. Baba who is now suddenly so adamant on seeing Nikhil that he is getting anxiety attacks is just a way to put undue pressure on Pallavi and emphasise that there isnt really enough time for her to think and execute ideas, hire lawyer, get bail etc.. Otherwise, how hard it is to just tell him that Nikhil is out of town for x,y,z reason-college trip, friend's ill etc etc etc? And have Nikhil talk over the phone with him? But obviously they have to create a situation where Pallavi feels like she has no time and no option left..

2. Pallavi tries to mobilise SM to expose the corrupt inspector.. and backs down so easily when he says that Nikhil won't be given food and water?😆she could have threatened to speak about all that too on SM..Basically that effort that she made was obviously just symbolic to convey the message to the audience that she tried all options before accepting Raghav's deal..


Point Im trying to make is that Raghav Pallavi's wedding has to happen as that is the turning point in the story and given their equation it could have never happened by any ''fair'' means.. Amma is merely the facilitator..all the unrealistic situations around them are contributing towards that one important event in the story. I cant think of any fair mean by which this marriage was possible or most importantly even needed. Infact this is the least ''unfair'' means there is to get these two married..

In the show, if Raghav ill treats her, though I dont think he will dare to that infront of amma/Keerthi, but if he does when they are alone, then Pallavi should also show him who is the boss..she is not gonna sit around and take crap from him, going by what she said today.. So amma regretting her actions is out of question..we will thank her later lol

In reality, none of this is possible..

So khao, piyo, dekho, bhul jao😆


Don't be sorry. Your perspective is appreciated and awaited!

Agree, they are doing this to show that she had no other option. Jis sanki buddhe ke liye kar rahi hai ye sab, woh hi sabse pehle shaadi ki baat sun kar Pallavi ko gaali dega. Useless man...

And frankly, Ayi and Rambo need to take responsibility for Nikhil. Pallavi was in their lives only for a short time but before that, what was Nikhil up to?

I don't think Raghav will ill treat Pallavi, rather he will be amused and stop her in her childish games. That's the way I see it. I can't think what will make him fall for her, except finding out about the blood donation thing and about her innocence in Keerti's scandal. That too will start with guilt more than anything.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu


Don't be sorry. Your perspective is appreciated and awaited!

Agree, they are doing this to show that she had no other option. Jis sanki buddhe ke liye kar rahi hai ye sab, woh hi sabse pehle shaadi ki baat sun kar Pallavi ko gaali dega. Useless man...

And frankly, Ayi and Rambo need to take responsibility for Nikhil. Pallavi was in their lives only for a short time but before that, what was Nikhil up to?

I don't think Raghav will ill treat Pallavi, rather he will be amused and stop her in her childish games. That's the way I see it. I can't think what will make him fall for her, except finding out about the blood donation thing and about her innocence in Keerti's scandal. That too will start with guilt more than anything.

Gali dene se achha bada sa anxiety attack leke tapak jaye permanently.. but nope! he will stick around to irritate everyone till the end..Agree about Nikhil part.. though teenagers straying or getting misguided and all is still believable.. what's not believable is baba's sudden urge to see Nikhil right away and the inability of family members to tackle that situation..unrealistic like I said, to pave the way for the wedding..

Raghav will not ill treat Pallavi atleast not infront of amma..infact he may fake his affection for her infront of everyone to show them that he is changing and also to irritate her.. That's why I said that the scenario of amma regretting her decision is not gonna arise unless Pallavi says something and given her character sketch she wont... And I dont wanna see Pallavi resort to childish games.. have seen enough of all that in IPK..hoping to see something intense and angsty..

Let's see how the story unfolds..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I haven't ever blamed Raghav, I've always admired his character as a grey one. There are times I don't agree with his tactics, sure, and it hurts to see Pallavi being put through so much. But this is who he is. He's a don and businessman, ruthless and cunning. Can he really be expected to behave mahaan? No! Like most other people, he puts himself and his family before everything else. He manipulates situations and uses them to his advantage — that's how he has got this position and power. In fact, there have also been many situations where he could've behaved cruelly, but he actually cared and helped her out.

There are flaws in both the leads, and that's why I wanna see them grow together. Even amma the strictly principled one, is kinda being a blind mother right now. But no one is as flawed as the Deshmukhs. After seeing a girl like Pallavi for years, you should know her character and trust her. Raghav is a stranger, him not trusting her is ok... but her own family not trusting her is not!! But even here, I do believe Pallu's own faults contributed. She knew her baba didn't like her around this guy, if she cared about his opinion this much she could've avoided Raghav and kept it strictly business. But she always talked to him with an easy familiarity, went to his house at all hours (and let's face it, the reasons weren't really "business" stuff... dhamki dene jaati thi 😆) And even before that, the way she provoked and challenged him, knowing he's a don and she's practically powerless against him... it was stupid and frankly ridiculous. The only reason she managed to take any sort of stand against Raghav was because he let her. He was amused by her antics and admired her guts. But the only two occasions he has truly plotted against her (the Deshmukh tamasha and now this)... Pallavi can be seen flopping around like a fish.

So yeah... everyone is flawed here. Everyone has their good traits too (well, everyone except Rambo and Sulo). Instead of throwing around blame, we should sit tight and enjoy the journey! ⭐️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bee222

I haven't ever blamed Raghav, I've always admired his character as a grey one. There are times I don't agree with his tactics, sure, and it hurts to see Pallavi being put through so much. But this is who he is. He's a don and businessman, ruthless and cunning. Can he really be expected to behave mahaan? No! Like most other people, he puts himself and his family before everything else. He manipulates situations and uses them to his advantage — that's how he has got this position and power. In fact, there have also been many situations where he could've behaved cruelly, but he actually cared and helped her out.

There are flaws in both the leads, and that's why I wanna see them grow together. Even amma the strictly principled one, is kinda being a blind mother right now. But no one is as flawed as the Deshmukhs. After seeing a girl like Pallavi for years, you should know her character and trust her. Raghav is a stranger, him not trusting her is ok... but her own family not trusting her is not!! But even here, I do believe Pallu's own faults contributed. She knew her baba didn't like her around this guy, if she cared about his opinion this much she could've avoided Raghav and kept it strictly business. But she always talked to him with an easy familiarity, went to his house at all hours (and let's face it, the reasons weren't really "business" stuff... dhamki dene jaati thi 😆) And even before that, the way she provoked and challenged him, knowing he's a don and she's practically powerless against him... it was stupid and frankly ridiculous. The only reason she managed to take any sort of stand against Raghav was because he let her. He was amused by her antics and admired her guts. But the only two occasions he has truly plotted against her (the Deshmukh tamasha and now this)... Pallavi can be seen flopping around like a fish.

So yeah... everyone is flawed here. Everyone has their good traits too (well, everyone except Rambo and Sulo). Instead of throwing around blame, we should sit tight and enjoy the journey! ⭐️


@bold, this is it!

He hasn't really budged from his usual modus operandi and if he didn't find her interesting he wouldn't have even given her the time of day or gone to those lengths to clear her name in the abortion fiasco.

While we may have moral objections about a lot of his words and actions, he is justified as per his character sketch because that is what Raghav Rao would do by nature.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Gali dene se achha bada sa anxiety attack leke tapak jaye permanently.. but nope! he will stick around to irritate everyone till the end..Agree about Nikhil part.. though teenagers straying or getting misguided and all is still believable.. what's not believable is baba's sudden urge to see Nikhil right away and the inability of family members to tackle that situation..unrealistic like I said, to pave the way for the wedding..

Raghav will not ill treat Pallavi atleast not infront of amma..infact he may fake his affection for her infront of everyone to show them that he is changing and also to irritate her.. That's why I said that the scenario of amma regretting her decision is not gonna arise unless Pallavi says something and given her character sketch she wont... And I dont wanna see Pallavi resort to childish games.. have seen enough of all that in IPK..hoping to see something intense and angsty..

Let's see how the story unfolds..

I wonder to what extent the bedroom drama will work. There's only so much of those we can see. I don't want to see saas-bahu crap, please. Also, now that Raghav has Amma and Keerti at home, I wonder if he will go out for business as much or spend more time at home, hence giving them opportunities for nok jhok.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

I agree, and I feel even worse because Ayi told Amma a lot about Pallavi's pain and trauma already. So it's not like she's unaware of her past. And you're right, Amma is looking the other way for now. She wants him to get married no matter what, and she knows very well that he'll move the heavens and earth to ensure he fulfils her condition. I want to see Amma regret this one day when her own son mistreats Pallavi in front of her and when Pallavi is hurt, because you can bet that will happen. Raghav itni jaldi nahin sudhrega, if ever. 😔

I don't think Raghav will ever mistreat Pallavi in front of amma — he knows how much amma adores her. In private, he might think to trouble her, but I think it'll be childish stuff 😆 Whatever hatred he had for Pallavi, he meted out the punishment for it. He's kinda calm now, and as he starts living with her, it'll become clearer and clearer to him the kind of person she is.

Raghav's hatred will diffuse in a few days, it'll be Pallavi's that keeps going strong. She has suffered a lot! Na khud bhulegi na use bhulane degi...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bee222

I don't think Raghav will ever mistreat Pallavi in front of amma — he knows how much amma adores her. In private, he might think to trouble her, but I think it'll be childish stuff 😆 Whatever hatred he had for Pallavi, he meted out the punishment for it. He's kinda calm now, and as he starts living with her, it'll become clearer and clearer to him the kind of person she is.

Raghav's hatred will diffuse in a few days, it'll be Pallavi's that keeps going strong. She has suffered a lot! Na khud bhulegi na use bhulane degi...

Yeah, so far he's in hisaab baraabar mode with her. She's just a means to an end for him right now. He will tolerate her antics and maybe ignore her but when it goes out of hand, I don't expect him to stay calm. His temper flares easily.

Edited by inlieu - 4 years ago

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