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Posted: 5 years ago
#31

Frankly I don’t think anyone is going to support such an atrocious behaviour in real life. We would have asked the girl to stay away from him forever as we know there is a very minute chance of people like this changing their thoughts. But this is a show & we want a happy ending . We know there will be character growth and we like both the characters equally that gives us the edge to analyse and find the reasons behind their behaviours 😄

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Just updated my post on Page 1:


Yes, part of his issue with Anokhi is that her ideals stem from her mam. If her mam is her guru, then she must be like her (in his mind). Hence, she's an attention seeker willing to go to any extent to climb up the ladder. However, in his clouded brain, he didn't think that his mom actually left all the social and financial bliss to live in a small town and work there. If she indeed was a social climber, she would have never left Saberwal house.

Additionally, bbecause of the help and attention he gave her, he feels that he has this sense of power over her. I also think this is a classic power struggle issue. He is in a dominant position and she is this beautiful girl who he has the pleasure to go help and save. He feels a sense of entitlement over this. Hence, he mentions it over and over again that she always lands in trouble and needs people's (his) help to come out of it. I liked her comeback that if she is in trouble, why is he always there where she is? What need is it for him to be her savior? Why does he do it if he feels like she does things on purpose? Power. The feeling he gets over having that sense of control and power over her. It's sick, but it's true.

When he saw the power being snatched by another, according to him, powerful man. He lashed. In his sense of entitlement, he think's she is his. His to touch, his to scold, his to help, his to whatever. I actually think he thinks she likes him. The nuances portrayed when she stops him from leaving and holds his hand. He takes 5 seconds to look at her hold. Why? He's using those hugs and touches as her advances. I won't be surprised if he genuinely feels she approached him for intentions to entice him. Why would he say that!? Because in his mind, he feels! So he thinks, she must also feel the same. It's so evident with his "itni bholi ban ne ki khoshish mat karo jaise tumhe kuch nahi pata".

People's words are a reflection of them than of the people they speak about or things they talk about. His entire convo was around sl*t shaming her yesterday and using powerful men to climb up the ladder - in fact, i think that's an extension of what he is telling himself - he is trying to convince himself that she should have no problem to be with him bc he is rich, despite being older because when they crossed each other's personal space, she wanted it as well (i.e. his "dont pretend like you dont know anything", "dont call me sir", etc) ..

So many messages highlighted in one go. So many issues women go through is highlighted from that entire convo: if a women is ambitious and reaching up the ladder, people question "how did she do it? boss se chakkar hain kya?" but the same people wont question men's career heights, they will say "he's so hard working". If a women is friendly w other men, "iska character loose hain, har kisi ko touch aur ache se baat/flirt karti hain" but if a man does it "take it easy, he's just being helpful and friendly".

IDK how Shaurya will be redeemed after this..and you know he may not be. We may just see him realizing how wrong he was and how sorry he is. He may genuinely promise to never say these things or think such things again and he may actually never repeat his mistake. If he consistently repeats the same mistake by characterizing her, the show and Shaurya is lost for me. However, if he learns, that's progress and that is the progress we seek in the society. We can't undo what is done, but we have the power to change and to change others. Shaurya will be redeemed if he stops another man from making the same mistake or saying the same things he said ...

Unfortunately, many "ache dil ke" men still hold this soch, problem is no one tells them they are wrong or points out their mistake to learn. Even I know such men who used to think such way but have long overcome that mentality. They aren't proud of such thinking they used to hold and admit that, but to see them now with their new version - is promising to witness and be around.

Posted: 5 years ago
#33

Use & throw theory Ft. You are cheap 😆


Shaurya is a weirdo in clear sense. How he feels that Anokhi is a replica of his own mom, how Aastha has made her student just like her is what made Shaurya ignite in the beginning & now when he had started to see her in a better light (She was always nice 🤦🏻), bande ko problem is baat se hai ki he thinks & believes that Anokhi owes him. He has the right to guide her in life or to make her accept his decisions, ajeeb zabardasti 🤪🤣

He has so much mending to do & common sense to install in his brain

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: prs_725

Yes, part of his issue with Anokhi is that her ideals stem from her mam. If her mam is her guru, then she must be like her (in his mind). Hence, she's an attention seeker willing to go to any extent to climb up the ladder. However, in his clouded brain, he didn't think that his mom actually left all the social and financial bliss to live in a small town and work there. If she indeed was a social climber, she would have never left Saberwal house.

Additionally, bbecause of the help and attention he gave her, he feels that he has this sense of power over her. I also think this is a classic power struggle issue. He is in a dominant position and she is this beautiful girl who he has the pleasure to go help and save. He feels a sense of entitlement over this. Hence, he mentions it over and over again that she always lands in trouble and needs people's (his) help to come out of it. I liked her comeback that if she is in trouble, why is he always there where she is? What need is it for him to be her savior? Why does he do it if he feels like she does things on purpose? Power. The feeling he gets over having that sense of control and power over her. It's sick, but it's true.

When he saw the power being snatched by another, according to him, powerful man. He lashed. In his sense of entitlement, he think's she is his. His to touch, his to scold, his to help, his to whatever. I actually think he thinks she likes him. The nuances portrayed when she stops him from leaving and holds his hand. He takes 5 seconds to look at her hold. Why? He's using those hugs and touches as her advances. I won't be surprised if he genuinely feels she approached him for intentions to entice him. Why would he say that!? Because in his mind, he feels! So he thinks, she must also feel the same. It's so evident with his "itni bholi ban ne ki khoshish mat karo jaise tumhe kuch nahi pata".

People's words are a reflection of them than of the people they speak about or things they talk about. His entire convo was around sl*t shaming her yesterday and using powerful men to climb up the ladder - in fact, i think that's an extension of what he is telling himself - he is trying to convince himself that she should have no problem to be with him bc he is rich, despite being older because when they crossed each other's personal space, she wanted it as well (i.e. his "dont pretend like you dont know anything", "dont call me sir", etc) ..

So many messages highlighted in one go. So many issues women go through is highlighted from that entire convo: if a women is ambitious and reaching up the ladder, people question "how did she do it? boss se chakkar hain kya?" but the same people wont question men's career heights, they will say "he's so hard working". If a women is friendly w other men, "iska character loose hain, har kisi ko touch aur ache se baat/flirt karti hain" but if a man does it "take it easy, he's just being helpful and friendly".

IDK how Shaurya will be redeemed after this..and you know he may not be. We may just see him realizing how wrong he was and how sorry he is. He may genuinely promise to never say these things or think such things again and he may actually never repeat his mistake. If he consistently repeats the same mistake by characterizing her, the show and Shaurya is lost for me. However, if he learns, that's progress and that is the progress we seek in the society. We can't undo what is done, but we have the power to change and to change others. Shaurya will be redeemed if he stops another man from making the same mistake or saying the same things he said ...

Unfortunately, many "ache dil ke" men still hold this soch, problem is no one tells them they are wrong or points out their mistake to learn. Even I know such men who used to think such way but have long overcome that mentality. They aren't proud of such thinking they used to hold and admit that, but to see them now with their new version - is promising to witness and be around.

I agree with everything you said. A few days back I mentioned Shaurya’s narcissistic tendency and need to be hero worshipped by Anokhi and I got so much flake pointing that character flaw. But I could see that from a mile. That guy is extremely territorial and is not afraid to show his ugly side to her when he feels he is entitled over her in some way. She is beholden to him or owes him something as he "rescued" her as if she had asked his help. This guy is bipolar and it's actually difficult to keep track of his mood. Some people do evolve and redeem themselves but it's a long slow drawn painful process that requires lot of patience and one can always decide if that person is worth that chance or effort.
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Posted: 5 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Coffee_Chips

Use & throw theory Ft. You are cheap 😆


Shaurya is a weirdo in clear sense. How he feels that Anokhi is a replica of his own mom, how Aastha has made her student just like her is what made Shaurya ignite in the beginning & now when he had started to see her in a better light (She was always nice 🤦🏻), bande ko problem is baat se hai ki he thinks & believes that Anokhi owes him. He has the right to guide her in life or to make her accept his decisions, ajeeb zabardasti 🤪🤣

He has so much mending to do & common sense to install in his brain

Exactly I had mentioned it earlier in a post that Shaurya is not jealous but he is frustrated that he is not at the pedestal Anokhi used to keep him at. Acc to him he is replaced by ACP as the real knight in shining Armour and his need for attention and hero worshipping from her. I got much flake for pointing that out. I am glad that my analysis holds true🤣 This guy has some serious issues and needs a lot of help to clear that fog🤣
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Idiotboxer

That makes me think that for Shaurya to change and overcome his misogyny, he will have to understand Aastha first and then he will understand Anokhi and her dreams and not the other way round. I am not saying he should forget his lonely childhood and forgive her. But he should realise that had Aastha been after money and comfort, she could have easily accepted whatever meagre help Bade papa would provide for her parents and stayed at the Sabharwals. Instead she chose a more difficult life full of struggles to do her duty towards her parents and protect her self respect. Then only will he understand how much important self respect is for women like Aastha and Anokhi.

That would be part of his journey towards getting his bitterness over with but that can't be the only thing shaping up his opinions and judgment. He needs a tough reality check someday and needs serious introspection.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nomadic_Vibe

I agree with everything you said. A few days back I mentioned Shaurya’s narcissistic tendency and need to be hero worshipped by Anokhi and I got so much flake pointing that character flaw. But I could see that from a mile. That guy is extremely territorial and is not afraid to show his ugly side to her when he feels he is entitled over her in some way. She is beholden to him or owes him something as he "rescued" her as if she had asked his help. This guy is bipolar and it's actually difficult to keep track of his mood. Some people do evolve and redeem themselves but it's a long slow drawn painful process that requires lot of patience and one can always decide if that person is worth that chance or effort.

Rightly said. He can't handle the fact that he has feelings, now physical too as evident for this girl that gives him an attitude/no bhav when he "did so much for her". Hence, power and entitlement ka issue. He wants the ultimate attention..bas usko age rakh kar chalo. not anyone else. Reflects in his words when he said to Shagun "whats the problem if i want a girl who ALWAYS puts me first from everyone else" ...I hope this is addressed as well. Just bc shes your wife or gf, it doesn't mean uski bhi apni space ya life nahi hain.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: prs_725

Rightly said. He can't handle the fact that he has feelings, now physical too as evident for this girl that gives him an attitude/no bhav when he "did so much for her". Hence, power and entitlement ka issue. He wants the ultimate attention..bas usko age rakh kar chalo. not anyone else. Reflects in his words when he said to Shagun "whats the problem if i want a girl who ALWAYS puts me first from everyone else" ...I hope this is addressed as well. Just bc shes your wife or gf, it doesn't mean uski bhi apni space ya life nahi hain.

He will be a demanding and high maintenance spouse. Anokhi will come off as aloof and less intense then him and that's okay. It's usually the girl with all these feel for an unemotional man. I will be glad to see the roles reversed here.
Posted: 5 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: Nomadic_Vibe

Exactly I had mentioned it earlier in a post that Shaurya is not jealous but he is frustrated that he is not at the pedestal Anokhi used to keep him at. Acc to him he is replaced by ACP as the real knight in shining Armour and his need for attention and hero worshipping from her. I got much flake for pointing that out. I am glad that my analysis holds true🤣 This guy has some serious issues and needs a lot of help to clear that fog🤣


Aise log na, you've to get them & beat 'em on a rock like the old method used to clean clothes. Shaurya is one item! He is like 'Mujhe attention do Anokhi!!!' otherwise achcha nahi hoga 😂😂

He seriously needs to repent & ofc if this wasn't a drama he should be going to either an anger management therapist like in your story 😉 or a therapist in general. He has problems to resolve first hand before coming to his feelings because in the future when they become a couple, she shouldn't be on the other end of facing the wrath 🤔

'Hero worshipping' - Gosh! He wants Anokhi to look at him like an ideal dude/stud goals or some s*** 🤣 I can't believe I'm 'dho-daloying' Shaurya in the worst possible manner 🤣🤣😆😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: Coffee_Chips


Aise log na, you've to get them & beat 'em on a rock like the old method used to clean clothes. Shaurya is one item! He is like 'Mujhe attention do Anokhi!!!' otherwise achcha nahi hoga 😂😂

He seriously needs to repent & ofc if this wasn't a drama he should be going to either an anger management therapist like in your story 😉 or a therapist in general. He has problems to resolve first hand before coming to his feelings because in the future when they become a couple, she shouldn't be on the other end of facing the wrath 🤔

'Hero worshipping' - Gosh! He wants Anokhi to look at him like an ideal dude/stud goals or some s*** 🤣 I can't believe I'm 'dho-daloying' Shaurya in the worst possible manner 🤣🤣😆😆

Yaar Sew I swear the guy has major issue. I would like to write a profile on him and why he reacts the way he does. But not today. It would seem like a justification for his actions and I actually wanted to point out his character flaws. I would when the FD would be going GAGA on him🤣🤣🤣

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