Imagine if they made a Mughal TV show - Page 2

Originally posted by: cutejodikangal

Amongst the other things they will also have to show how they butchered the Hindus and what not which can get very murky and unpleasant. That’s why nobody ventures that route!

Not just that, they will also have to show how the status of women deteriorated during the Mughal reign. The 'Pardah' system got introduced in order to protect the women. In South where the Mughal influence was not much, the parda system did not develop.

They are not going to show all this. They will just present the Mughal emperors as efficient warriors. The dark and real side will not be shown.

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

Exactly. It would get cancelled even before it could air. And of all the places would this concept even work in India, where majority population is Hindu?

Instead they should do a Gupta Dynasty, Maurya Dynasty, Ikshvaku Dynasty before Lord Rama...semi-fictional...focussing on Kings Raghu (who gave the name Raghukul) and Aja.

There is another war in the Rig Veda known as the War of Ten Kings...now that would be interesting to watch on screen.

so you dont want the show to be made because of snowflakes?

as for the second part of your comment we dont even have enough reliable source material to make a show about all the kingdoms or Dynasty you mentioned.. they have have to make shit up as they go

Originally posted by: J3601

so you dont want the show to be made because of snowflakes?

as for the second part of your comment we dont even have enough reliable source material to make a show about all the kingdoms or Dynasty you mentioned.. they have have to make shit up as they go

So its absolutely fine to make something that hurts the sentiments of millions of people? The truth is invaders entered my country, murdered, raped and looted my people. Why would I want to see the glorification of such barbarians?

If makers want to make shows on invaders then go ahead, but show the damn facts. Show us how the parda system became prevalent, cored conversations took place, Indian princesses were married off to invader kings in order to prevent anything from happening to the kingdoms.

And by all means, I hope they cover how India's most peaceful minority, the Parsi community and later the Iranis, had to flee from their home country, Greater Iran, and come to India when the invasions started.

Show the truth if they have to. You can call it snowflakes or whatever but for me they will always be barbarians and should be depicted that way. they were by no means great.

Makers can easily make web series of 4-5 episodes similar to "Roman Empire" or "Vikings" on Netflix on the Hindu dynasties that I stated.

Originally posted by: MommaDarling

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Mumbai: Web-series are the ‘in-thing’ these days. As entertainment is shifting from television to mobile phones, directors and filmmakers are turning towards digital entertainment. As per latest reports, Nikkhil Advani is all set to make a web series based on the novel ‘Empire Of The Moghul’ written by Alex Rutherfood. The book is a historical account charting the birth, rise and fall of the Mughal empire from Babur to Aurangzeb.

In the show, actor Ronit Roy will be essaying the role of Babur. The role of Babur’s grandmother Esan Daulat will be played by veteran actress Shabana Azmi. It is a historical fact that Esan Daulat was a powerful lady who played a major role in ensuring that a 12-year-old Babur is crowned as the king after his father’s death.

Actress Dia Mirza, who was last seen in Rajkumar Hirani’s Sanju will be playing the role of Babur’s sister Khanzada in the web series. Speaking about her role, Dia said that Babur’s sister Khanzada is rarely mentioned in general history books whereas historical memoirs like Baburnama and Humayunama are full of details about her. Dia further added that she is more than happy to play this role of a loved, respected and powerful lady.

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Nikkhil Advani, who has already completed a schedule of the show in Jaipur, stated that he is glad about the way the project is shaping up. The director confessed that he always had a keen interest in the Mughal era and immediately took up the project when the idea was first suggested.

After the completion of the first schedule in Jaipur, the unit has now moved to Karjat to shoot the second leg of ‘Moghul’.

This looks like its quite far into development - could be promising. But such a huge project created by Advani - I wonder if he will be able to handle it.

Originally posted by: J3601

so you dont want the show to be made because of snowflakes?

as for the second part of your comment we dont even have enough reliable source material to make a show about all the kingdoms or Dynasty you mentioned.. they have have to make shit up as they go

The snowflakes can cry and whine and go about beheading people if the bad things their ancestors did were shown. After all who wants to admit that their ancestors did bad things.

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

Talk about the Mughals and the topic immediately shifts to butchering of Hindus. All their influences on India's art, architecture, warfare, administration,food and fashion gets pushed to the side. Some of them like Akbar was pretty tolerant and broadminded for his era. At the same time Aurangzeb did not spare even his family from his cruelty. The Mughals like any other family had their bad apples. Jehangir aka Prince Salim was an opium addict and went to war against his father Akbar as well as his son Khusru. He blinded his own son. And Babur did not treat his Muslim rivals like the Lodis any more kindly either. Hindus or Muslims, family or friends they eliminated any who stood in their path. The early Mughal women like Babur's sister were very independent. They rode keeping pace with the army even to battles. But for all his ferocity Babur had to watch her being forcefully married by an enemy chieftain. It was years before she was liberated.

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Ind has always been highly advanced when it comes to architecture. The temples of South Ind are masterpieces ! I have visited Taj Mahal and I kept on wondering why is it counted in seven wonders of the world when there are much more beautiful and incredible other things in Ind. About food, not everyone prefers Mughalai cuisine .The contribution towards it becomes insignificant if it comes at the cost of mass butchering of people. In terms of warfare, Ind was already highly advanced.The gains from the Mughal empire were much less than what was lost.

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

Talk about the Mughals and the topic immediately shifts to butchering of Hindus. All their influences on India's art, architecture, warfare, administration,food and fashion gets pushed to the side. Some of them like Akbar was pretty tolerant and broadminded for his era. At the same time Aurangzeb did not spare even his family from his cruelty. The Mughals like any other family had their bad apples. Jehangir aka Prince Salim was an opium addict and went to war against his father Akbar as well as his son Khusru. He blinded his own son. And Babur did not treat his Muslim rivals like the Lodis any more kindly either. Hindus or Muslims, family or friends they eliminated any who stood in their path. The early Mughal women like Babur's sister were very independent. They rode keeping pace with the army even to battles. But for all his ferocity Babur had to watch her being forcefully married by an enemy chieftain. It was years before she was liberated.

@bold : I would love to see people talk about Hitler's regime the same way. I mean imagine someone saying, 'Talk about Hitler and topic shifts to genocide of Jews, all the changes and impact he had on employment, economy, life of women in Germany gets pushed to the side'.

FYI Akbar did his share of crappy shit too even by the standards of his era (unless you are comparing him to other Mughar rulers). And the architecture, fashion, culture in India then didn't really need the intervention of the invaders.

Sometimes when talking about genocide and exploitation of millions, it's better not to compare it to 'architecture' and 'fashion'. Seems a bit superfluous to compare such things. But you do you👍🏼

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

Talk about the Mughals and the topic immediately shifts to butchering of Hindus. All their influences on India's art, architecture, warfare, administration,food and fashion gets pushed to the side. Some of them like Akbar was pretty tolerant and broadminded for his era. At the same time Aurangzeb did not spare even his family from his cruelty. The Mughals like any other family had their bad apples. Jehangir aka Prince Salim was an opium addict and went to war against his father Akbar as well as his son Khusru. He blinded his own son. And Babur did not treat his Muslim rivals like the Lodis any more kindly either. Hindus or Muslims, family or friends they eliminated any who stood in their path. The early Mughal women like Babur's sister were very independent. They rode keeping pace with the army even to battles. But for all his ferocity Babur had to watch her being forcefully married by an enemy chieftain. It was years before she was liberated.

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Originally posted by: capricornrcks

Talk about the Mughals and the topic immediately shifts to butchering of Hindus. All their influences on India's art, architecture, warfare, administration,food and fashion gets pushed to the side. Some of them like Akbar was pretty tolerant and broadminded for his era. At the same time Aurangzeb did not spare even his family from his cruelty. The Mughals like any other family had their bad apples. Jehangir aka Prince Salim was an opium addict and went to war against his father Akbar as well as his son Khusru. He blinded his own son. And Babur did not treat his Muslim rivals like the Lodis any more kindly either. Hindus or Muslims, family or friends they eliminated any who stood in their path. The early Mughal women like Babur's sister were very independent. They rode keeping pace with the army even to battles. But for all his ferocity Babur had to watch her being forcefully married by an enemy chieftain. It was years before she was liberated.

These are the cock and bull stories that the Congress tried to feed the country for decades because of which the majority finally lost faith in them and decided to give a chance to BJP (who are going berserk in another direction which is a debate for another topic). Whether you are a current day Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Christian or of any other religion- it’s a given that ALL your ancestors have been butchered, raped, tormented , insulted and you name it. It’s another thing that we need to move on from it, leave the past behind and look into future. But if someone is going to come and tell me these stupid stories and pass these invaders as the evangelists who brought in love and peace then I am not going to sit and listen to it.

Like as if otherwise India was living in poverty and illiteracy. If anything these invaders made sure that the people who don’t give in to their brutality and convert either ended up dead or illiterate and poor -they destroyed all the well known Universities and educational institutes and made sure no education happened for the masses. There was no poverty and the Indian Kingdoms were flourishing with wealth , prosperity and much more advanced in terms of art&literature than the rest of the world- the main reason why they became the target of the invasions in the first place. Ha one thing they definitely brought in - intolerance. Before these invaders showed up, the people in the Indian Kingdoms were much more tolerant and welcoming of the foreigners and other religions.