Non Apologetic- Sai Virat - Page 2

Originally posted by: Chattering-Lory

Did Sai never apologize to Virat?? That's not the case. She genuinely felt bad and said sorry when she destroyed all the balloons brought by him for her, to calm down his mad family. She simultaneously apologized to him when he took her back to their room on the same day when they both visited DIG's office.

Out of all the incidents mentioned above Virat became indirectly responsible for 1 & 2 (sometimes due to his Kamal sir's order) which badly crashed her dreams of moving to Nagpur with her father. She would have apologized by now had she been not subjected pure mental and physical torture (mirch grinding) by his rude family members.

For 3 he understood why she reacted that way. Her behavior was a result of his weird family's disgusting reactions. Which he understood very well.

No. 4, her accusations were partially true. Though Virat doesn't have an EMA or exhibit infidelity his actions always welcome the ex into his personal matters or marital issues which has to be between the spouses.

Bold : sorry nhi thnk u bola tha coz Virat sided her against pakhi in corridor , virat apologize her for his & family , she was eager to leave d room.

Balloon burst karne ke liye sorry is liye bola coz that time virat defended her in front of family , she was in good mood.

If u going through a hard phase then it don't give u licence to insult other sadly KJ has apologize on behalf of sai .

When she accidentally spill hot tea on virat's hand in balcony she said sorry Coz it was unintentional mistake.

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

While browsing the net , I came across this article which talks about non apologetic people . While most might associate such behavior with pride , arrogance and , ego . Its actually their way of protecting their self . Non apologetic person associate sorry to shame and bad character . While reading this , it crossed my mind that Sai is one among them . She has never apologized for her mistakes till now at least not to Virat . Is it really difficult for her to apologize or has she taken him for granted . Is it easy to live with people who don’t own up their mistakes . Virat is someone who makes mistake , realizes it and tries to rectify it . Can we say the same about Sai ?

Few incident I could think of where an apology was due

1. Sai accusing Virat for not approving her fathers VRS : Initially , I could understand the misunderstanding but later even after knowing he has approved it she never apologized for being rude . In fact in a scene where she calls him Sir for first time , we can see how she struggles to apologize him even when she realizes he was not there to cancel the VRS but for some final handover work .

2. Accusing of killing her father : this is the biggest of all where she accused him of killing his mentor . I understand she was in a trauma but even later she didn’t feel sorry for accusing an innocent man

3. Accusing of hitting her with a stick : She misunderstood him and called him a wife beater . Even after the incident , forget being sorry but she was rude to him

4. Recent incident during lunch drama : I do t like to revisit the incident but for accusing him of infidelity, EMA when the truth is different

5 . Will she realize her impulsive ss in handling a mentally unstable life and for unilaterally taking decision in this matter

I have seen many teenagers who own up their mistake and apologize so I believe being an 18 yr old is the reason for this behavior.

Aap incident bhul gayi valentine's day college incident , so tamasha create kiya tha Dean ke office mein sai ne she owe apology to Dean of d college & virat.

Jo cheez apne mentioned ki hain agar virat ne ki hoti to galat kehlati lekin sai ne ki hai isliye ignore kar dijiye ya 18 yrs ke carpet ke neeche hide kar dijiye.

Badtmeezi ka koi excuse nhi hota na hi vo age card ke saath aati hai.

Chahe 18 saal ka Insaan kare ya 60 saal ka , men , women , aged person or anyone badtameezi badtameezi ke naam se hi jaani jaati hain.

Sai Joshi carries a huge ego which will never let her apologize to virat.

U pointed out right sai takes virat for granted coz it always virat who had made amendment after every fight , she know virat will approach her .

Virat said her so called singhad qila is made of ego which has made her blind towards her own fault

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

I understand what she is going through but Sai has made some assumptions based on certain facts but she is not looking at the complete picture. somewhere she is still struck at his words uttered during their marriage.

If Virat truly loves Pakhi why would he support Sai instead of Pakhi? There are quite a few occasions where he gave back to Pakhi. On contrary, he only stops Sai when she crosses her limit. He doesn't stop her from giving back to Pakhi but it stops her when he feels she is disrespectful.

Why would he take her along to Ladakh if he loved Pakhi? He would have used this opportunity to spend some time with his love. Sao is failing to see this

Yeah but she is still a bit young to understand those actions.. and take it as love..that can be taken as his goodness and also his responsibility towards her and never love..He himself said he is taking her for a trip because she is his zimmedaari and also in the recent episode when she was asked to leave he did stop her with so much love...but again called her his zimmedaari.. the same words that he used since the first day of his marriage with Sai.. So as Sai I would perceive that I am his zimmeddari who he has come to be fond of in the recent days ..He is in general caring towards everyone and towards me as well..because he is a good man.. So coming to the first point that does not discard his confession to Sai before marriage.. Sai believes in words..expressions and expects the same out of others..He cleared it to Pakhi..who was one half of his deal and he has to clear it to other half which is Sai.. Now dont talk to her about marriage deal..But atleast for once clarify that he doesnt love Pakhi.. The onus is not just on Sai to read his actions.. there is also a fear of rejection for Sai.. The onus is also on Virat to clarify his stance on Pakhi.. Like I said on Shivratri..the way Pakhi tore the tickets as soon as she got to know about Sai accompanying him..it raised a lots of questions..Sai also has that question.. And since Sai has witnessed Virat's confession and seen Pakhi's actions..khul ke pyaar dikhana..she talked to him about that.. But she did not in words or by insinuation called it at an EMA. She was jealous when they were going together but not that insecure and was keeping it to herself..her studies ..her aai..

Sai dusro ko sorry bol deti hai like Ashwani & pulkit with virat she had strange rule.

I will like 2 inform sai also consider it as her haq only to insult virat at every given opportunity be ghar ke andar or bahar but if someone else say a word against virat she pounce on them.

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

While browsing the net , I came across this article which talks about non apologetic people . While most might associate such behavior with pride , arrogance and , ego . Its actually their way of protecting their self . Non apologetic person associate sorry to shame and bad character . While reading this , it crossed my mind that Sai is one among them . She has never apologized for her mistakes till now at least not to Virat .

She hasn't. Did once for popping balloons. It looks like the reason is that she valued that he bought it for her with so much of love and then felt guilty that she popped them all.

Is it really difficult for her to apologize or has she taken him for granted .

I have not understood about this yet.

Is it easy to live with people who don’t own up their mistakes .

No, would not be easy

Virat is someone who makes mistake , realizes it and tries to rectify it .

We all know that he apologises I don't know why it feels as though he will continue to make mistakes and will keep apologising.

Not for the argument sake, there are people who make mistakes; apologise, feel less guilty and feel better and then again make mistakes. How much he has actually realized is something I am not sure of yet. He is a peacemaker, tries to do it with all and so does it with Sai too. He is an emotional person and not always egoistic. Sai is egoistic. Sai doesn't believe in truce. It is confusing.

Can we say the same about Sai ?

Few incident I could think of where an apology was due

1. Sai accusing Virat for not approving her fathers VRS : Initially , I could understand the misunderstanding but later even after knowing he has approved it she never apologized for being rude . In fact in a scene where she calls him Sir for first time , we can see how she struggles to apologize him even when she realizes he was not there to cancel the VRS but for some final handover work .

She should have apologised as soon as her Dad told her that he had approved his VRS.

She jumped and hugged her Dad and took him to the table for food. Looks like she wanted to show an attitude in that scene and was being too egoistic to accept her mistake. I have mentioned a few more points in black coloured font.

I see this in many especially children and teenagers who doesn't really think it is necessary to apologise.

2. Accusing of killing her father : this is the biggest of all where she accused him of killing his mentor . I understand she was in a trauma but even later she didn’t feel sorry for accusing an innocent man

I don't understand this, they had left it loose. She accused him and still married him as if nothing happened. One can say she was in a trauma but I was expecting that she would bring this up some day, eventually but nope, never happened. Hope it happens in the future. On the night of reception when he spoke about her and her Dad, was the first best time she could have apologized.

It is not that she still thinks it to be true, why would she even get married to him in first place? 1 and 2 are interrelated

3. Accusing of hitting her with a stick : She misunderstood him and called him a wife beater . Even after the incident , forget being sorry but she was rude to him

I don't think so. It was a misunderstanding first and also she was just challenging him, not seriously, like a mock anger.

They show a scene with Aai too the next day. Aai asks her what if he had really beaten her and she said she had trust on him that he wouldn't and when Aai asked how, she said that she had faith in her upbringing, he was Aai's son. She was angry with Kaku and was trying to show Kaku that he wouldn't do it.

4. Recent incident during lunch drama : I do t like to revisit the incident but for accusing him of infidelity, EMA when the truth is different

I wouldn't call it accusing of infedility/EMA.

She definitely should not have brought it in public. Also in public she asked Kaku that she knew about their past, their relationship. I don't remember her saying they have an affair now.

The word khilona, even if she didn't mean it ugly, shouldn't have been used and should have apologised for it.

5 . Will she realize her impulsive ss in handling a mentally unstable life and for unilaterally taking decision in this matter

She has still not taken any decision. She is determined to get them united. She is the only one or may be even Aai who check on that girl, not even Virat. She is giving her the support needed before or after the marriage proposal. She strongly believes that Devi will be happy and get cured if she gets married to the love of our life (well there are chances that she can be wrong and is not supposed to go by her instincts and trust, but can't be commented until she does anything. )

Virat, who is so sensitive himself has got a toy gun for his wife but didn't think it was necessary to check on his sister? Almost everyone in that house are insensitive except for Aai and Sai.

I have seen many teenagers who own up their mistake and apologize so I believe being an 18 yr old is the reason for this behavior.

Not all teenager needs to be the same. Within siblings too, you won't find them having similar qualities, they can be completely opposite to each other.

I am only expecting that this behavior of hers changes.

I am not giving Sai any benefit of doubt for now for whatever I have said in my above comments that she should have apologised.

There are people who believe in correcting their actions or doing something to make up for their mistakes as a way to apologise. I tried to see if Sai was by any chance doing it, but I don't think so.

But if it is her nature then why is it seen only with Virat? She apologised to Pakhi even when she was not at fault. When Virat too visited Pakhi's house, he refused to accept her accusation against Sai saying Pakhi was the one who started it. But even then Sai apologised to her, only for the sake of Virat.

The entire family asked her to apologise and she refused but after speaking to him, realising how important Pakhi was to Virat, how did she apologise with no hesitation at all?

It all makes me think the below especially about the 1st point. But the 1st and the 2nd point are interrelated.

Virat and Sai started on a wrong foot, it was Sai's misunderstanding about the keechad incident. However, one cannot ignore that though Virat had approved her Aaba's VRS, he was the reason they had to stay back in Nagpur until he had sanctioned the VRS.

Virat should have first checked with Kamal if he had any prior commitments before speaking or requesting in front of all asking him to not retire immediately. He had put Kamal in a tight spot or being the kind person Kamal was, he honoured his request happily.

So Sai's anger on him is justified. Yes, he did approve it later but then they wouldn't have even got into any situations had they left the place right after Virat took charge in GC.

If Jagtap had tried to harm her in Nagpur, that would have been between the father daughter and Jagtap. Virat wouldn't have got blamed.

Her Dad was wrong in hiding about his VRS sanction, as you have mentioned she had so much difficulty to speak out the word sorry, but I think/ it looks as if, that was only because it was Virat, she was giving him an attitude/egoistic not willing to accept her mistake.

2nd point, had they left to Nagpur, her Dad wouldn't have died and it cannot be denied. Virat was responsible for it unintentionally. Yes, Kamal did not follow his orders but the day wouldn't have come if they never stayed there after Virat moved to GC. She probably thought it that way.

She spoke to DIG that Vittal was her Dad's culprit. The reason being I think there was one kaka who told her that Kamal went against Virat's order and didn't act as planned. She heard him and looks like had registered the information though never acknowledged it or apologised for it.

I don’t think Sai should apologise..

her whole life has been turned upside down in someway because of virat .. if he had not married her .. just put her in a hostel and been her local guardian.. made his mom her local guardian too ..her life would have been more sorted .. she could have focused on her studies and built an independent life ..

Right now she’s verbally abused by his family members and he doesn’t stop it ..his ex is always taking pot shots at her ..interferes in their pvt space.. and it is not supposed to be a forever marriage..

Why should Sai deal with so much daily negativity.. when she feels she won’t come back and meet them after 5 years ..

Originally posted by: msin

I don’t think Sai should apologise..

her whole life has been turned upside down in someway because of virat .. if he had not married her .. just put her in a hostel and been her local guardian.. made his mom her local guardian too ..her life would have been more sorted .. she could have focused on her studies and built an independent life ..

Right now she’s verbally abused by his family members and he doesn’t stop it ..his ex is always taking pot shots at her ..interferes in their pvt space.. and it is not supposed to be a forever marriage..

Why should Sai deal with so much daily negativity.. when she feels she won’t come back and meet them after 5 years ..

Aapki saari baatein sahi but why should virat , Ashwani bear d heat , abhi kya kam jhoote parte hain unhe

Doctor ka sapna to sirf naam ka naam kholna to sai ko samaj seva kendra hi hain.

So plz virat Ashwani away let sai .

Sai ko jaha jana vo khushi khushi ja sakti hai lekin I hope virat & Ashwani both usse dur rahe .

Vaise bhi world is waiting for sai"s arrival.

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

While browsing the net , I came across this article which talks about non apologetic people . While most might associate such behavior with pride , arrogance and , ego . Its actually their way of protecting their self . Non apologetic person associate sorry to shame and bad character . While reading this , it crossed my mind that Sai is one among them . She has never apologized for her mistakes till now at least not to Virat . Is it really difficult for her to apologize or has she taken him for granted . Is it easy to live with people who don’t own up their mistakes . Virat is someone who makes mistake , realizes it and tries to rectify it . Can we say the same about Sai ?

Actually, it happens bec she is too much into the "right and wrong " and that right and wrong is just her standpoint . She needs to think beyond that to know where virat is coming from. In her mind she thinks she always stands by the right but that right may also be wrong . There r so many variables in life that definite right and wrong cannot define our actions. Being so rigid in her thinking is her character flaw. At the same time she is warm and listens to people when she cools down. But never budges frm something she is focused on.

She thinks pulkit is right and devi and him must marry and she is out on a mission to achieve it. It's nothing but a mindless social service adventure which will backfire badly. And here virat is wrong but he is right. He is acting upon whatever info he has and as per him.he is also right.

I don't think a former apology matters , just understanding where she went wrong should suffice . I saw her doing that in pd meeting on a Sunday scene . She heard out virat , understood why he reacted that way and changed her decision of leaving . But yes , there is nothing that changes in her. It's good and bad both . With the kind of toxic people she is surrounded with, Sai should never change. At the same time , we as audience expect her to be a little mature , diplomatic and wise in choosing her battles. Probably we want everything perfect but the spice of gum is Sai and if she changes, it will be a redundant itv serial.

Originally posted by: msin

I don’t think Sai should apologise..

her whole life has been turned upside down in someway because of virat .. if he had not married her .. just put her in a hostel and been her local guardian.. made his mom her local guardian too ..her life would have been more sorted .. she could have focused on her studies and built an independent life ..

Right now she’s verbally abused by his family members and he doesn’t stop it ..his ex is always taking pot shots at her ..interferes in their pvt space.. and it is not supposed to be a forever marriage..

Why should Sai deal with so much daily negativity.. when she feels she won’t come back and meet them after 5 years ..

Why should a 27 yr old be a guardian to a 18 yr old and take up a responsibility of a girl? He could have easily escaped from GC. His life changed post marriage too. He is subjected to taunts like her. It's unfair to just blame him and reserve all the sympathy for Sai alone.

The answer for Why should he?

Because Virat is breathing today due to Kamal Joshi.

Sai is always called Ehsaan faramosh ..this ,that.. but she is not.