A tale of Pride and Prejudice - Page 2

Originally posted by: prs_725

I completely agree. These two are so so cute and just love together. what is Anokhi doing? Wasn’t she here to study? Aatha is a great force behind her dreams so she will go through any extent to help her, however, Aatha is also not in her right mind to make judgements. First she asks Anokhi to get involved indirectly and when Shaur is mean to her and she runs away and Anokhi reprimands Shaur..she has an issue. I think both are right here. That’s no way to talk to Shaur,however, what Shaur said is also not right ..

but who is she to ask Shaur to ask for forgiveness? We cannot control other people’s actions but can encourage them to look the other way.. you cannot demand someone to ask for forgiveness. If someone doesn’t want to ask for forgiveness, it’s not always an ego but sometimes also embarrassment .. people need time to even ask for forgiveness. It has to come from within so when people don’t apologize, you can force them or look down upon them for not asking for forgiveness ..

anyways, she doesn’t make any sense recently.

I’m still disappointed they chose to show something else apart from the promo. The hype and all that seems fake for viewership and trps..hate when they do that.

@bold so true! An apology that is not heartfelt is as good as not asking for one because it doesn't serve any purpose.

As for the promo I am actually glad they haven't rushed through but I can definitely see where the disappointment comes from.

Originally posted by: Akanksha29100

"Baat soch ki nahi maam sahi aur galat ki hai"

For me the highlight of the episode was this one line.

Now, what I deduced from it was that Anokhi said this with reference to Shaurya's choice of words and tone for his mother but what troubles me is how couldn't Anokhi realise that it is our thinking that only drives us to differentiate between the right and wrong. Having said that, I also believe that Anokhi is what she is because of the kind of people she has been surrounded with all her life.

All her life she has seen people objecting her and ridiculing her for the dreams she saw and for the way she behaved and now it has become a part of her defence mechanism to act this stubborn about her point. Like when somebody doesn't appreciate her approach she grows defensive about her opinions and measure it on the radar of right and wrong but where she goes wrong is that she doesn't realise that the radar or the graph on which she is trying to measure the right or wrong is solely based on her opinion or her approach.

And then she eliminates the possibility of her being wrong because she was told she was wrong and brazen all her life and she proved them otherwise.

Also, I do hope that the makers become more thoughtful about Anokhi's character since she also has a lot of scope to improve. My problem with Anokhi has never been her nagging nature or the hypocrisy she drips sometimes but what leaves me irritated is that she is not a good listener and even when she listens she does not acknowledge or understand. While on the other hand there is Shaurya, who is a good listener, surprisingly and even acknowledges the opinions when he is told something.

But given to her age I always try to side with Anokhi that she can't be all mature and to the point. She has to be a bit reckless and high on emotions like other people of her generation.

So I dont have any problem with her character for now but if there is no growth in her as a person I will be disappointed and even disheartened.

The point about her experiences shaping her makes a lot of sense and I am beginning to see where she comes from however like you mentioned it is the growth and progress in character that I am worried about.

I would tend to think both of them are proud and prejudiced in different circumstances.

Hypocrisy is a very, very strong word that I wouldn't use for Anokhi right now - stubborn, immature, impulsive -yes! But, not hypocrisy. I don't know how I would react if the person for whom I was ready to risk my everything would admonish me while I was only trying to make things better for her. She is not right, but from an emotional point of view she is not wrong as well. Plus, I would have maybe considered her a hypocrite had she denied going to Astha's place after she accepted. But, she didn't do that. Maybe she was hurt and she wanted to have some space to think things through.

With regards to the soch vs right/wrong. I think a person's thoughts are dependent on his or her own experiences, but there are some actions that when viewed from an outsider's perspective is either right or wrong - that is when you take a macroscopic approach. Look at Shaurya's soch - he has this inherent belief that working women cannot handle family and career together. His soch comes from his experiences and what he has learnt. However, as an audience, even after seeing what he went through and what shaped his thoughts, what is wrong is wrong!

I think that's what Anokhi was trying to call Astha out on - Astha was thinking like a mother today and was kinda giving a leeway for Shaurya to misbehave with her. True, she understands his perspective but what is wrong is wrong. Any outsider would have said that Shaurya words were hurtful, more so, because she was still hurt, and Astha deserved an apology. So baat soch ki nahi hain, baat understanding the other's perspective ki bhi nahi hain, baat what is fundamentally right or wrong ki hain.

Originally posted by: FortunaMajor

@bold exactly! Anokhi is not wrong in calling out Shaurya for his words because they could have had serious consequences however the constant nagging is not necessary

Thats the word..! Thats y viewers are irritated.

I actually appreciate the writers for showing both MLs making their mistakes. So far, if I hv been angry with Shaurya, Anokhi has annoyed me too! For once, both the characters are balanced! 😃

Originally posted by: ..Peppermint..

I would tend to think both of them are proud and prejudiced in different circumstances.

Hypocrisy is a very, very strong word that I wouldn't use for Anokhi right now - stubborn, immature, impulsive -yes! But, not hypocrisy. I don't know how I would react if the person for whom I was ready to risk my everything would admonish me while I was only trying to make things better for her. She is not right, but from an emotional point of view she is not wrong as well. Plus, I would have maybe considered her a hypocrite had she denied going to Astha's place after she accepted. But, she didn't do that. Maybe she was hurt and she wanted to have some space to think things through.

With regards to the soch vs right/wrong. I think a person's thoughts are dependent on his or her own experiences, but there are some actions that when viewed from an outsider's perspective is either right or wrong - that is when you take a macroscopic approach. Look at Shaurya's soch - he has this inherent belief that working women cannot handle family and career together. His soch comes from his experiences and what he has learnt. However, as an audience, even after seeing what he went through and what shaped his thoughts, what is wrong is wrong!

I think that's what Anokhi was trying to call Astha out on - Astha was thinking like a mother today and was kinda giving a leeway for Shaurya to misbehave with her. True, she understands his perspective but what is wrong is wrong. Any outsider would have said that Shaurya words were hurtful, more so, because she was still hurt, and Astha deserved an apology. So baat soch ki nahi hain, baat understanding the other's perspective ki bhi nahi hain, baat what is fundamentally right or wrong ki hain.

But is it okay to insist on an apology? Would it hold any meaning if it isn't coming from Shaurya organically?

Originally posted by: FortunaMajor

But is it okay to insist on an apology? Would it hold any meaning if it isn't coming from Shaurya organically?

Definitely No.

See, that's where she keeps on crossing the line and Shaurya is somehow okay with that (no matter how hurt that makes him). But, Astha is not and she made it clear today.

Would Shaurya make it clear that she shouldn't interfere in his matters, if Astha did not come today? I don't think so. Forget the fact that he crossed boundaries first, the fact that he talks about his pain, his hurt, his sleepless nights with her and listens to what she has to say in return kind of make her believe that she is reaching him and she thinks that she can play the mediator between them - in a way both of them has allowed her, willingly or unwillingly, to interfere, which is what she does.

She has seen specks of the guilty and anguished son who was equally disturbed as she was, and she gently offered to mediate and talk on his behalf. Shaurya was apologetic from the bottom of his heart (which is what Astha wanted), but was finding it hard to voice out for obvious reasons. Of course, her interference does not go well because the pain runs too deep.

Originally posted by: ..Peppermint..

Definitely No.

See, that's where she keeps on crossing the line and Shaurya is somehow okay with that (no matter how hurt that makes him). But, Astha is not and she made it clear today.

Would Shaurya make it clear that she shouldn't interfere in his matters, if Astha did not come today? I don't think so. Forget the fact that he crossed boundaries first, the fact that he talks about his pain, his hurt, his sleepless nights with her and listens to what she has to say in return kind of make her believe that she is reaching him and she thinks that she can play the mediator between them - in a way both of them has allowed her, willingly or unwillingly, to interfere, which is what she does.

She has seen specks of the guilty and anguished son who was equally disturbed as she was, and she gently offered to mediate and talk on his behalf. Shaurya was apologetic from the bottom of his heart (which is what Astha wanted), but was finding it hard to voice out for obvious reasons. Of course, her interference does not go well because the pain runs too deep.

Well this and a few other responses has definitely helped me in seeing things from Anokhi's perspective, the thing she was my draw to the show after I came across her debate speech on insta so the past few episodes left me grated and confused but you are right the liberty is being exercised because it has been given or at least not denied.

Originally posted by: FortunaMajor

Well this and a few other responses has definitely helped me in seeing things from Anokhi's perspective, the thing she was my draw to the show after I came across her debate speech on insta so the past few episodes left me grated and confused but you are right the liberty is being exercised because it has been given or at least not denied.

The speech is so beautiful and so powerful❤️

It will be interesting to see how she reacts given that, as you mentioned part of the liberty which "has been given" has been taken away!

I loved how both of them saved each other because ultimately romantic feelings or not these two are beautiful human beings and there was so much intensity in the hospital confrontation the underlying expectations that even they don't understand came to the fore

Anokhi forgetting that they are in the middle of an argument to ask "Aap ko bhi chot lagi hai".

I think everyone has discussed Anokhi and her anokhi thought process 😆 and we're all pretty much by it.

For me the hospital scene was one of their best scenes along with the hug and car ride home (v day).

It's stuck with me the way she wanted him with her and thinking he didn't care for her. Him being annoyed that she wouldn't listen to him and left him just like that.

I loved watching their unspoken expressions that conveyed much more than their verbal word's.

I am noticing a lot of people in this forum who used to be active in GHKKPM. As expected, things are taking a ridiculous route in that show. I'm trying to hope that something good will come of the show...but honestly it seems unlikely.

I'm thinking of slowly shifting to another show - so I want to ask people here if you'd recommend this show 'Shaurya aur Anokhi ki Kahani'? Does it seem promising?