Deewar khada kyun hua aur usko ko thod kaun raha hai aur kab tak - Page 2

Lovely post!

My thoughts, when Virat had spashtlta se told Sai on the marriage eve that ummed mat rakhna...mere dil mein zindagi mein ki aur hai..etc etc...

Sai has openly talked to him about this on the trip fiasco night...and again the Sunday morning in the zillat arena...

I think Virat has to clearly state this to Sai ki woh ummed mat rakhna is not a clause of the deal anymore...mein tumse ummed rakhne laga hun and tum bhi rakho mujhe...Sai had hinted that there can be changes in the deal...wohi Sunday ko...😂 😂

Jo sach usne Pakhi se kaha ki mera sach hai ki tum samrat ki wife ho auu meri dost ho...bas....use yeh sach Sai ko batana hoga...

He knows ki Sai ko spasht bhasha hi samajha aati hai....when Virat had spashtlta se told Sai on the marriage eve that ummed mat rakhna...mere dil mein zindagi mein ki aur hai..etc etc........he has to clear this in spasht saral shabd...ki deal the clause change karne ka waqt aa gaya hai sweetheart!!!

@ laksh, Sai has in words expressed her respect snd gratitude many times. But she loses her cool just like virat does.

Infact virat in his gussa completely lost control with hand holding and food denial.

Virat's gussail side is something only Sai has got full dose of. Baaki sabke saath even his gussa or irritation/discomfort is always understated.

Sai has been shown as impulsive and shes equally brash with everyone in her anger- bk/ninad/pp/virat - jo bhi ho, they all get it. but virat- voh toh samajhdaar, suljha hua ips haina toh for him to lose his cool is not expected. And so far he has ONLY lost it at Sai even though there have been enough instances where he could be more stern in his words,tone and body language with others in the house too, especially pp. But he escapes confrontation with them all.

In a way that shows that with Sai he can take liberty but he should also not lose his cool and hurt her swabhimaan.

Aaj biwi ka haath pakad ke he said she won't leave, if she does I'll go with her... But we know that soon there will be a MU where he is likely to kick her out of the house.

In Sai's gussa she does say things she does not really mean and she sometimes oversteps.

But in all her talk about virat-pp she has never actually insinuated any "physical" cheating but she perceives an emotional bond of something more than friendship which bothers her as a wife. Infact despite knowing everything she does about virat-pp she legitimately did not have any ill intentions or negative thoughts about virat or pp going to ladakh. She was extremely mature and understanding about it. Her dialogues to virat before he convinced her to go on trip clearly reflect that. It was only when she was eventually provoked and then she was targeted that she got mad.

Her refusal for dosti this time is more out of irritation at Virat saying - tum pp ko humesha galat kyun samajhti ho and tum kyun nahi dosti ka haath badhati. It was absolutely unnecessary remark from virat. Especially shen he has seen that pp is standing against Sai and has deliberately instigated tamasha. And that "dosti ka haath" remark only made her recall how pp and her husband are "friends" and immediately she shuts off.

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Like yesterday, she clearly knew she hurt him. But she refused to acknowledge it to him. She tries to poke him to say ..it's not like that. But it never happens. Oh boy, what a Jalebi these two make ..

shaadi se pehle dono hi spasht bolte the...Kitne clearly Virat ke ummed mat rakhna.....dil mein zindagi mein koi hai etc etc Sai ko bol diya tha...uss wat jalebi banane ki kala mein maahir hota to aaj acenario differet hota na...yeh shaadi ke baad Virat ne kala seekh li...kahin aisa to nahi ki Sai to meetha pasand hai and use meete mein sirf jalebi banani aati hai...is liye puri shiddat se kala mein maahirta haasil kar raha hai!!!😂 😂

Originally posted by: jane_austen

@bold If she cared less, she would not say things that hurt him. Truth is that despite building a wall around her heart, she too is getting emotionally attached to him and wants to be accepted as his wife. No matter how much she guards herself, the frustration of being in a deal marriage does raise its head now and then. So just like Virat, her frustrations come out in terms of hurtful words.

I understand that but words sometimes when is too harsh can leave a scar, causes damage to both. I know he pushed some wrong buttons by bringing up Pakhi but as soon as she asked why do you want to make us friends, he left it.

He then offered his friendship. I understand she was upset but twice she said she can't be his friends.

That is fine but the way it was put forwards was too harsh. She can be upset with Virat and the deal and her own emotions but it is the same Virat whom she was looking at with respect while doing the puja right? So why not bear that in mind as much as possible?

It happens in real life as well, we all face it, but it is good if both the parties care and respect each other all times. If Virat had done the same, he also would have been wrong.

Originally posted by: laksh

I understand that but words sometimes when is too harsh can leave a scar, causes damage to both. I know he pushed some wrong buttons by bringing up Pakhi but as soon as she asked why do you want to make us friends, he left it.

He then offered his friendship. I understand she was upset but twice she said she can't be his friends.

That is fine but the way it was put forwards was too harsh. She can be upset with Virat and the deal and her own emotions but it is the same Virat whom she was looking at with respect while doing the puja right? So why not bear that in mind as much as possible?

It happens in real life as well, we all face it, but it is good if both the parties care and respect each other all times. If Virat had done the same, he also would have been wrong.

But thats the point. If he had asked to be friends without bringing up pp, she would have definitely agreed. But talking about friendship after this pp reference made her snap at him.

Originally posted by: neeraja91

@ laksh, Sai has in words expressed her respect snd gratitude many times. But she loses her cool just like virat does.

Infact virat in his gussa completely lost control with hand holding and food denial.

Virat's gussail side is something only Sai has got full dose of. Baaki sabke saath even his gussa or irritation/discomfort is always understated.

Sai has been shown as impulsive and shes equally brash with everyone in her anger- bk/ninad/pp/virat - jo bhi ho, they all get it. but virat- voh toh samajhdaar, suljha hua ips haina toh for him to lose his cool is not expected. And so far he has ONLY lost it at Sai even though there have been enough instances where he could be more stern in his words,tone and body language with others in the house too, especially pp. But he escapes confrontation with them all.

In a way that shows that with Sai he can take liberty but he should also not lose his cool and hurt her swabhimaan.

Aaj biwi ka haath pakad ke he said she won't leave, if she does I'll go with her... But we know that soon there will be a MU where he is likely to kick her out of the house.

In Sai's gussa she does say things she does not really mean and she sometimes oversteps.

But in all her talk about virat-pp she has never actually insinuated any "physical" cheating but she perceives an emotional bond of something more than friendship which bothers her as a wife. Infact despite knowing everything she does about virat-pp she legitimately did not have any ill intentions or negative thoughts about virat or pp going to ladakh. She was extremely mature and understanding about it. Her dialogues to virat before he convinced her to go on trip clearly reflect that. It was only when she was eventually provoked and then she was targeted that she got mad.

Her refusal for dosti this time is more out of irritation at Virat saying - tum pp ko humesha galat kyun samajhti ho and tum kyun nahi dosti ka haath badhati. It was absolutely unnecessary remark from virat. Especially shen he has seen that pp is standing against Sai and has deliberately instigated tamasha. And that "dosti ka haath" remark only made her recall how pp and her husband are "friends" and immediately she shuts off.

I agree with everything you have said. My thoughts too. He is not this harsh when it comes to other members of the family. As you have said may be it has got to do with liberty.

I know she never insinuated physical cheating. I am aware of what she feels, have written it in my other post too. She trusts him completely. But I am saying it can sound insulting to him.

@bold I know that is wht she got rattled. That is what made her react that way. Totally not necessary.

I agree both lose their cool and make mistakes. That is what I am saying, none should. Both should learn to respect each other.

But again as I have mentioned in the post, in their relationship it has been mainly him who has taken steps and efforts, fair enough because Sai did not feel that way for Virat before. And now both want the same and are failing to address the issue at hand.

Virat laid out the conditions, should clear it, I agree. But Virat's gestures cannot be ignored. Sai kind of understands it and then takes a few step back when Pakhi is brought on between them especially by Virat.

But while taking few steps behind, she seems to be forgetting the moments they shared, the milestones he has crossed for her which helped both of them taking a few steps forward. That is again due to her impulsive nature as we all know.

Time and again what is the need or relevance or context to remind him she will leave? If it was about something else like his family I understand, to become friends in future, should they be living together? After whatever they both have shared or been sharing, he doesn't deserve to be his friend in future too?

Well if she only told it in anger like how Virat also tells a few things in anger it is fine. But it should have been left at that. I don't see the need to tell she will move out. Was it deliberately said? Does it mean she knows it will hurt him? If that is the case, she knows he likes her? What does it mean?

I would like to say, you might have seen many posts from me talking about Sai as well, I like her too. But I cannot ignore Virat's goodness or his efforts too.

Originally posted by: jane_austen

Agree to whatever you said regarding Virat's efforts and also his inability to articulate his emotions. But there is still another confusion . The night of the trip fiasco, SaiRat have a huge fight. In the fight, Sai not only brings out the history that Virakhi have but also confronts him about subjecting her to a deal-marriage. She also says that anybody in her position would have been depressed. Is this not clear enough indication that the deal and vaada part of their marriage is hurting her?

I agree. There are two sides to a coin. When Sai said that anyone else in her position would have been depressed, she wiped her tear with so much of strength and also told him that it doesn't matter to her. She is not like them. She then added I don't get into other's personal life and I don't expect others to interfere in my personal matters too.

What does it convey? We all know she was trying to guard herself but Virat who has always seen her disliking him, showing no interest in him, how is he supposed to understand this as?

Her tears wouldn't have gone unnoticed to him. He also did say after she left that she never understands him. But he probably now has an idea that this bothers her.

But at the same time from looking at it from his angle, he is only going to think Sai has no interest in me, she didn't even want to get married to me, she used to hate me, is this bothering Sai, does she have an issue with mine and Pakhi's past as a wife, does Sai want to be my wife, may be not.

Is it not?

Another thing. He told her that she is wrong in thinking that way so he thinks he has already cleared it to her that there is nothing between him and Pakhi. Ofcourse it wouldn't have hurt him if he had told it again but he chose to tell you will one day regret to have thought this way. That is another way of denying it ofcourse.

About the deal part, he told her she can walk out not because he wanted her to but as a consolation or a way to convince her to get married. It was told because she didn't want to get married. I have given it in this post to.

He won't be able to ask her not to leave because he is thinking she wants to leave and he will be forcing her to stay. He doesn't want to do anything that she doesnt wish for.

Sai’s expressions today while answering Pulkit regarding their deal marriage indicate her pain.” He already loved someone..”she told Pulkit trying to sound detached but still we could sense her feelings if we observe keenly. It is not fun for Sai to talk about the deal or his love for Pakhi. I can understand how difficult it is for her to come to terms with it . She is just 18 or 19 years old. She clearly likes him but he needs to come forward and tackle the issues,specially related to Pakhi.

Originally posted by: India_TV

Lovely post!

My thoughts, when Virat had spashtlta se told Sai on the marriage eve that ummed mat rakhna...mere dil mein zindagi mein ki aur hai..etc etc...

Sai has openly talked to him about this on the trip fiasco night...and again the Sunday morning in the zillat arena...

I think Virat has to clearly state this to Sai ki woh ummed mat rakhna is not a clause of the deal anymore...mein tumse ummed rakhne laga hun and tum bhi rakho mujhe...Sai had hinted that there can be changes in the deal...wohi Sunday ko...😂 😂

Jo sach usne Pakhi se kaha ki mera sach hai ki tum samrat ki wife ho auu meri dost ho...bas....use yeh sach Sai ko batana hoga...

He knows ki Sai ko spasht bhasha hi samajha aati hai....when Virat had spashtlta se told Sai on the marriage eve that ummed mat rakhna...mere dil mein zindagi mein ki aur hai..etc etc........he has to clear this in spasht saral shabd...ki deal the clause change karne ka waqt aa gaya hai sweetheart!!!

I agree he should clear that. But I doubt he would. Just like Sai thinks she is an unwanted person in his life, he thinks he is an unwanted person in her life.

So if he tells that he considers her to be his wife, it would mean that he wants this marriage to work. He fears that Sai will walk away if he says that because he is under an impression that she has no interest in him, doesn't want to stay in this marriage and if he tells it he will scare her away.

All he can clear to her again is that he has no feelings for Pakhi and she is only his friend and his brother's wife.

I think the comment of main chali jaungi was to say "theres no reason for me to be friends with pp/you when ultimately the marriage is deal with an expiry date" because so far it is only a deal. Maybe she figures virat wouldn't be in her life after that because he can probably move on with pp. Especially if samrat doesn't come back or is confirmed dead. Secondly its to try to console herself that she should not get hurt by certain remarks of any of the people in this house including virat and their taunts/hate for her because its not forever. Its only till she will live with them and finishes her education. I think she absolutely doesn't realize that it actually hurts Virat or that Virat looks sad/upset whenever she talks of the expiry date of their relationship.

I dont ignore/negate Virats goodness and genuine care for Sai. Both make mistakes. But as an audience member, personally I'm inclined to be more forgiving of Sai's mistakes than Virat's. Because she is consistent in her behavior, what you see is what you get, she is younger and doesn't have the tehraav that age/experiences bring, she has lost her guiding light, her sounding board and parent- that loss takes very long to overcome, she has no one to project her feelings on except virat..aai/bua/tai/mohit/ hain but voh log bhi virat se jude hue hai. They are not truly "hers" until this shaadi becomes real. And UM rarely speaks up..she behaves like she is a maidservant to Sai rather than a family member.

So basically Sai feels alone despite having all these people in her life and the one person who is trying to hold her hand and prevent her from this loneliness also is only doing it out of pity/ehsaan/farz/zimmedari and behaves like a pendulum.

In Sai's eyes Virat ka pyaar sabke liye hai including Sai, but gussa sirf Sai keliye. So far i dont think she feels like she is any way more special to him than pp.

Agar voh dosti kar bhi le, bff toh pp pahle se hai. And as a wife if she craves his "special" attention. She does not want to be his obligation or be a 2nd choice. She wants to feel like his priority.

She doesn't realize that its that extra dose of gussa that only she gets is his expression of "pyaar" and "haq jataana" .