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Good morning sisterhood!! 🌄🌺🌻

It's a new start to the week and thank God for the way it has started. What a mind-blowing scene that was between "ek doosre Ka accha chahne wale' Pati Patni. The pointed questions and the raw feelings Sai expressed today are much needed for the progress of the relationship, one way or the other. Loved the episode so much that I was almost surprised sad that it ended 😒

The scene beautifully brought out the two "opposites" of Sai and Virat. The word "opposites" was a trigger for Chavan saheb because in his mind, "how can you say I am not on you side?" But the fact is that he has been in the opposite side more than often by admonishing Sai for her "badtameezi" even where it was not required. Her feeling, thus, is far from being baseless. He, on the other hand, wants her to read his feelings for her through his actions -- which are, honestly, confusing at times for her. His "insaan ko padhna" nahi aata was his hurt from a dashed expectation that Sai has understood his unspoken words.

And so, her absolutely rightfully spoken words came as a jolt. Now this is actually Virat's problem: He feels people around him should be able to read him and gauge his feelings without him having to articulate it ever. It is fine in normal circumstances because, yes, actions speak louder than words. But he has conveniently forgotten the fact that he has placed an embargo in the relationship with Sai, which she cannot set aside unless he verbalised the changed condition. Because she obviously also sees his actions in regard to his 'pyarosti' from the glasses that he himself has given her.

Sai and Virat are actually on the opposite side in the way they deal with situations. She wasn't wrong -- it is true that they end up in an argument where they don't expect one because when it comes to seeing the point between them, they are on two different planes. Sai takes the route of confrontations to find her answers and resolutions to things bothering her while Virat is non-confrontational. Let's not call his outbursts in the state of jealousy 'confrontation' because it wasn't. It was a consequence of avoiding confrontation that he ultimately had a pressure point of explosion. And what an irony that the very reason why he exploded was the insecurity that Sai herself voiced today: "Do I belong to you?" For Virat the question is: "Don't I belong to you?" Isn't it essentially the same question? Yes or no?

Sai does not know if she should feel that she "belongs" to him. Yes, there is a definite unspoken belonging they share. But it is also true that a spouse, even in normal marriages, needs to hear words of reassurance from time to time... Yahan toh, navra baiko are yet to decide who will break the embargo first. And Virat, he has removed the embargo -- yes, he has and he's hurting that she cannot see it. But, he will continue to skip the most opportune moments to say it aloud and make her see it. Instead, add to his silence where he needs to speak the words "gurur, badtameezi, chillana" -- sometimes just used to digress from an argument where there is no better point to make. Now, they are her trigger points, just like any mention of the deal or 'pyarosti' is for him.

Today his use of her 'badtameezi' weakness was rather misplaced. It set her off and made her connect it to his silence on matters related to his 'true love' and she couldn't stop herself from bursting out about the one thing that has been hurting her: the absent 'husband'. Doesn't she wish to have the expectations from him that she has been told cannot? Of course, she does. But can she say it to his in as many words? She doesn't know yet and he is waiting to hear those words from her.

His "Do dhai kitaabein padhne se nahi aati... Insaan ki samajh Nahi hai..." and "Tumne Apne chaaron aur ek deewar khadi ki hai Jo tumhara Accha chahne wale par Nahi Kar paayenge, tum akeli reh jaogi" was actually an irony because it is applicable to him in as much weight as to her -- can he read the anguish she feels as a "wife" that is so visible on her face? Does he even see the wall he has built in between them and why she raises her walls up? How does he want her to break her walls when she's unable to see him breaking the one he placed between them?

My heart went out to Sai when she said, "Main toh aaj bhi akeli hi hoon"... He still didn't get the context to what she is speaking.

On Saturday, someone mentioned how PP is using her "loneliness" to get sympathy. But it is true for any person -- be it Sai, Virat or PP -- the loneliness that they feel is the one that can only be filled by a spouse. In PP's case, the spouse is unavailable but for Sai and Virat, they are lonely despite being together. Nothing can be sadder than that -- Saath hokar tanha... Leave aside the moments when they are happy and in their banter - it is still not the togetherness that they actually need to experience together. It is a fact that they are both drawn to each other. They feel equally misunderstood and unwanted thanks to their excellent skills at diverting attention from what needs to be spoken. And thus, the result of the unfulfilled desire is their anger in turns.

This was a much needed confrontation -- it was long overdue and thankfully, spashthly served by Sai after the unnecessary reference to "badtameezi chillana" trigger today. What is a wife who can't show her husband the mirror? And vice versa. What is a 'love' that cannot discount transgressions and moments where the person might appear most unworthy of being loved? And, what is a spousal relationship where the most uncomfortable questions cannot be asked?

So she asked the right questions without mincing words: "Why are you so upset if I say I did not want to join you on your pyarosti trip? Why do you point out to my badtameezi in such a partisan manner when you know that it is your pyarosti insulting me? Why is it so hurting if I mention the deal word? Who has given you the right to question my education and intelligence? Why did you ask me to not have spousal 'ummeed' from you if you're not committed to someone else? Isn't that someone else this very woman who has the license to walk into my personal space, make contemptuous faces at me, call me names for being in the same room as you and walk away without being chastised? Isn't she the one to whom your commitment is bigger than it is to me?"

Of course, the most brilliant of all - "Did a single elder of the family object to her demand of wanting to go alone with you the way they condemned my accompanying you as your 'wife'? Why are you the candy being handed out to a toddler whose toy has gone missing and may not be found?"

And the golden question: "Why didn't you tell my father that you can't take up the zimmedari because you're already committed to someone? Why did you say a hurried, half-hearted yes?"

Now, the questions have no answers actually and Virat's silence is understandable because they have come as an unexpected bolt. Of course, to the last question we will say he didn't think of marrying her when he promised Kamal Joshi that he would 'khayal rakhunga' of his daughter but then he did always think Kamal Joshi had bestowed some kind of right on him over Sai -- his instant yes to the promise was from that subconscious feeling of "responsibility and right" he felt for her at that point already.

Today his response to her "Aapko kisne haq Diya" with "Tumhare Aaba ne" was misplaced for Sai because she was talking about it from only her anger about him questioning her intelligence but his response was to the larger 'haq' that he feels he has in her. I am not sure if we can call it entitlement here (which is a feeling he has as being the 'husband') but this 'haq' is the haq of belonging. Of belonging enough to question.

Sai won't know why he said "Tumhare Aaba ne". He wasn't answering her specific question but referring to his inexplicable connection with her since before their relationship even had a legal name. For some reason, the moment I heard that response, it reminded me of the lunch table scene from Gadchiroli where Kamal Joshi was unable to eat because he was worried for Sai being hungry in the safe house -- and Virat told him Sai was enjoying the poha, much to Kamal Joshi's surprise, "How did you know?" Response: "I just spoke to her" (fact: video called). Kamal Joshi: "She spoke to you?" Response: "Just a little... not much" (Fact: they spoke about 'duniya kho dena' and his anguish of 1.47 hours love lost)

But coming to her direct question about his feelings for the 1.47 Hours love story -- (now will we ever know how did she find out about the yoga love story?🙄 I am assuming that she heard PP saying, "ye wo Virat Nahi hai jisse main yoga camp me Mili thi" because the walls of their room are porous and sound going out is a regular complaint😏🤔😐)

Sai did not speak from jealousy but from the facts that are in front of her eyes. His silence in matters concerning PP's badtameezi cannot be ignored. It has reinforced Sai's belief that it is her 'husband' who has literally handed over the rights to his 'pyarosti' to insult her whenever she feels like venting out at Sai her frustration over his dhoka..why should she be at the receiving end. Yes Virat was surprised and almost wanted to say, "I spoke for you and told her off today" but no, it is a little and a little too late -- his dono ke haath me talwaar dialogue had undone his standing up to a big extent and Sai did catch on to that at the very moment -- when did she ask for the rights he said he cannot give her? When, before this, did she question his commitment to another woman? When did she speak in between them unless it was a direct attack at her spoken in a indirect speech?

In his anger, he ended up adding another brick to the wall by saying "Tum Hoti kaun ho..." and his silence at "Dil par haath rakhiye ki aap Pakhi Didi se pyaar Nahi karte.. She has the courage to openly show her emotions for you but what you're doing is like cheating her. Why can't you admit that it is she who you love and are committed to..." The suggestion reduced him to tears -- is it because he couldn't bear the burden of being unable to say what he wants to now tell Sai or was it because he suddenly relived the pain of the heartbreak with the reality check?!

The dialogues she spoke in between - "Aap izhaar Nahi Karte, Dil mein daba Kar rakhte hain... Agar aapko Lagta hai mujhe Bura lagega toh aisa Nahi hai" actually did fit well for the present state of his mind with her -- the only thing holding him back from telling her what he feels (not acknowledged as love yet) is because of his fear of rejection and of causing her the hurt of 'umeed rakhna' but then the umeed is already there... and he hurts her in other ways. So bol hi do na re Baba😐😐You might have failed to read it but the pyarosti has already done the deep damage on the relationship you want to build with your wife, Chavan Saheb. The more you delay clearing this misconception that she has about your pyarosti, the higher the walls will become... Don't seek that wall to be removed without an effort.

The fact is that spousal confrontation is needed to establish transparency in the relationship where there exists a conflict due to a mutual misunderstanding or simply miscommunication -- as in their case. Deliberately avoiding such a confrontation does nothing to resolve contention and bridge the distance between the spouses. The fact of the matter is that where there is so much unspoken, confrontation is necessary, and can actually enhance the quality of the relationship.

Sai's outburst should get Virat to recognise the problem between them, if he had forgotten and assumed that his caring gestures would be enough to scale the walls he can see around Sai. Now, he actually knows the reason for the frustration of both the women he thinks are at loggerheads with each other -- it is he.

Now Sai may come across as aggressive but she's actually only at an assertive person. Her assertiveness is often seen as her aggression, but it is actually her confidence in communicating what her mind has gauged by connection the facts presented to her.

While Sai will still continue to say that she is unaffected by his commitment to this woman because she has accepted the deal, he should be able to see it's far from the truth. Bappa kasam, when he began saying "tum kehti ho tum jhoot Nahi bolti par aaj...." I thought he was going to say, "I can see you are lying and it affects you because you are my wife." But then I realised that picture Ka climax toh aana baaki hai 😅

If Virat thinks Sai does not understand him, it's also true vice versa...does it not hurt to hurt him. It does. Did they read each other's eyes when they met in the bed after the screaming? What a beautiful moment that was -- I can't even tell how real. When spouses fight and turn their backs to each other in bed, taking turns to see if the other will speak first to break the silence and the disappointment when they don't but the resolve that "I'm not going to talk first" and the restlessness that follows for the entire time until you find the moment when you can break the silence -- which Virat thought he'd do with chai pe charcha. That smile on his face as if he knows he'd be able to resolve this... But ab chai li bhi toh Kaunsi 🙈

Wo chai jisse peekar log bhool jaate Hain Woh pehle kya peete thay. So both navra Baiko will drink extoxic tea and try to resolve the issue 🙊🙊 mujhe koi umeed nahi rakhna. Because, aata samajhle, this extoxic tea is the reason why Chavan Saheb has forgotten his vaada and deal both -- he actually has no memory of either of the two. Ab bas itna hi pata hai, "Dheere Dheere pyaar ko badhana hai, hadh se guzar jaana hai"

But Saibai is singing, "Tu pyaar hai Kisi aur Ka, tujhe chahti koi aur hai"

And we can all be singing: chehra kya dekhte ho, Dil me utar Kar Dekho na... Mausam pal mein badal jaayega, patthar Dil bhi pighal Jayega..😅

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Now, Pulkit Deshpande is aware of how modern thinking family is this Chavan clan 😅😅 and Sai immediately catches the clue "oh so Pulkit sir also knows how obnoxious they are. Now this is enough proof that he's the one I am looking for" 😅😂😂 Chakram Makad Sena is so famous for being vile!

So, Sai has accepted the lunch invitation. For obvious reasons, she will not reveal anything to Virat -- also unsure if they get back to talking terms with the extoxic tea 😖 but Chavan saheb ke aansuon ki dhara toh aur behne wali hai 🥺 kyunki Sai ki 'zidd' todne Ka jigar nahi hai aapke paas, let's face it!

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A moment of silence in solidarity with Samrat's photo. His legal wife who must sign his (pata Nahi kaunse) documents still dressed up for her broken honeymoon dreams and continuing to lick her wounds while the whole mansion has gone to sleep. Today, she didn't hear the sounds from her imaginary husband's bedroom where she was actually the centre of the conversation. Next morning, all that extra zeher and double dose of beizzati hormones have gone into the chai 😰. I hope Virat drops the cups by tripping on the stairs, please 🙄 that look when she saw Ashwini giving the last cup to him for the "second" person -- uff, aisa laga hajmola bina taste kiye halak me atak gaya ho 🙄😒 waise whose was that last cup? Kahin Didi Ka hi toh Nahi tha? Aisa hua toh phir toh Sai ko "meri haq ki chai cheen li" wala ilzaam bhi sehen Karna padega...and chai served by chaheeta IPS beta with his own hands in front of the entire Chakram gang?! Too much to handle...

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Have you brewed the beverage your soul wants? Is it coffee ☕☕☕ tea 🍵🍵🍵 or the tricky terrain of honesty that can be achieved only when speaking spashthly -- it is often not easy to make choices in life but when faced with a conflict, our soul often directs us to pick battles. It is because the soul knows best who is the one worth fighting 💪 for...

This week marks the beginning of new life, new season -- the spring -- it will arrive and replace the grey with the green and all the lovely floral hues in between... take your pick and paint your surroundings with the colour that makes you the happiest and strongest in fighting the battle you must pick -- because some conflicts need to be started, questions need to be asked, silences need to be hung in between... In the end, it is important though to leave room to be able to find those answers that your soul is seeking...

With that, have and delightful day and a wonderful week! Kuch kehna hai toh kaho...

Aur mere hugs 🤗🤗🤗, pyaar ❤️❤️❤️ aur aabhar 🙏🙏🙏 ko sweekar Karo!

Aale,

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Awesome post by you, Janki! 🤗❤️

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Posted: 5 years ago
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wow!!!such a lovely analysis. i loved today’s episode. felt bad for virat actually. that angst where he is unable to share the feelings he has for his wife, not being able to answer any of her questions was so well potrayed. and sai , i applaud your courage and honesty my girl. very few have the courage to do what you have done today- addressing the elephant in the room. it was much needed confrontation for them to move forward in their relationship. ❤️❤️❤️

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Amazing analyzation Jankiji, really patience u have to analyze hats off and well said👌👌


Regards

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I loved the episode because it focused on Sairat .


This confrontation was much needed and I hope this will help them understand each other better . Few things about today’s episode


1. I did not like Sai’s insensitive comment about Samrat . She knows what Samrat means to Virat . She could have said this in a better way .


2. Sai is the official jalebi maker , she confronted Virat in the spasth shadh but she served few jalebis when it was her turn to answer . She says she doesn’t interfere in another personal life then why was she talking about Virat’s past and questioning him as his wife when the marriage is just a deal . She is the one pushing Virat towards Pakhi ( for whatever reasons ) , isn’t that part of his personal life . Why does it matter to her if he celebrates Vday with Pakhi or not . The irony is even in GC she was the one invading his personal space by questioning about his best friend .


3. Sai Joshi doesn’t lie . That not true . She is delusional to think the marriage is just a deal for her and she never wanted to go on a trip with him . My heart went out for her when she said she was happy the trip got canceled. She was saying this to hide her hurt . Whether she expresses her feelings to Virat or not she should stop lying to herself . Same applies to Virat as well .


3. Sai asked right questions about his terms and conditions but has she ever wondered why didn’t she do that at the time of their wedding . Why does it bother her now when she was ok before . Just like Virat , she needs to ask herself .


4. The Pulkit way of inviting her home sounded so creepy . We know he is positive character but I would be concerned if my family member was invited for lunch alone by her professor .

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Jankiii you’re posts are amazing!!! I look forward to them more than I look forward to the episode. I actually go back and watch the episode again after reading your analysis.



Virat ko kabhi nahi pata tha that he will fall in love with Sai. I feel like even he hasn’t seen a healthy relationship in his life, his parents even though married are always bickering and his father constantly putting his mother down. Let’s not talk about the spineless couple Sonali and Omkar. Jo khud ke bete ke na ho sake woh dosre ko kya sikhayenge aur kaku toh alag hi trip par rehti hai!
So I get that he thought his infatuation was love. But that is not an excuse for the best love story of all times- yoga love 🤦🏻‍♀️

As for Sai, it’s saddening to see how people are calling her rude. You know every time someone is upfront especially a woman it is said to be rude. I can relate to this a lot.
yes her words are harsh but as you mentioned Janki, she’s assertive and says what is on her mind. She’s not scared of voicing her opinions. It is a little hard to fathom for some people as they have never seen a FL on ITV who is as outspoken as Sai, who isn’t scared to speak her mind.
So I don’t agree with the fact that Sai is rude as most people on Twitter said. I know a lot of people who will watch the show on TV will feel she is rude. It’s also because of the way they have been brought up, our society has made us think this way of situations and has characterized both genders (women should be shy whereas men outgoing) which has also been motivated by movies and television, so having a character like sai is definitely new for many.

I do hope the spark of both the characters doesn’t get lost as the story moves on.

You know they say opposites attract, in this case it seems so true. Their opposite ways of dealing with a situation, one is calm and one outspoken, this actually the beginning of a wonderful relationship.

Bas nazar na lage 🧿🧿🧿🧿🧿🧿

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Nice post, was waiting for it.


I loved the episode. High time these questions were asked. I am relieved, on behalf of Sai, that she got to say what she feels. Specifically about Pakhi and Virat's relationship.


Did Virat understand her anguish ... especially when he saw her settling in to sleep?? Her utter sadness was written all over her face.


I have one relevant question...😆 about the next morning. Such a big discussion on didi ki chai?

I wonder if they read the forum and insert these dialogues like an inside joke between fans and them. It was really really weird!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: scarlett22

Nice post, was waiting for it.


I loved the episode. High time these questions were asked. I am relieved, on behalf of Sai, that she got to say what she feels. Specifically about Pakhi and Virat's relationship.


Did Virat understand her anguish ... especially when he saw her settling in to sleep?? Her utter sadness was written all over her face.

I felt bad for both of them.. of course he's been blissfully ignorant of how a young girl would feel being married to him, have his attention and keep reminding her she can't be attracted to him or desire the whole of him from a distance of just a pillow between them...


I have one relevant question...😆 about the next morning. Such a big discussion on didi ki chai?

I wonder if they read the forum and insert these dialogues like an inside joke between fans and them. It was really really weird!

@bold: Mujhe bhi aaj ye shaq hua. What's with this constant screen space for the chai 🤣🤣

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Posted: 5 years ago
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TBH, I don't know Sai ko aur kitna direct hona padega

Virat la azhun hi nahi kalla ki tyachya shantate mule tyanchya natyat adhik nuksan hot aahe God knows to kadhi tond ughadun spashth bolnar aahe 🤔

Sai was spot on! She verbally, in clear words put forward some crucial points about their relationship but this man again spun some jalebis of batameezi and padhai 😡 Samajh nahi ata isko akkal kam hai ya ego zyada hai 🤔

At least the next morning he was attempting to talk to her. But we all know it will go down the drain bcz Sai has a thick skull 😭 Phir se jhagda hi hoga ya phir Mohit interrupt kar dega 😆

All I wanna ask Chavan Saheb is:

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Some times I do feel that Virat has toooo many expectations from Sai. She is just over 18 and she is allowed to be emotional, angry and confused and his golgol baatei are not helping the poor girl.

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Originally posted by: yyyy

I loved the episode because it focused on Sairat .


This confrontation was much needed and I hope this will help them understand each other better . Few things about today’s episode


1. I did not like Sai’s insensitive comment about Samrat . She knows what Samrat means to Virat . She could have said this in a better way .


2. Sai is the official jalebi maker , she confronted Virat in the spasth shadh but she served few jalebis when it was her turn to answer . She says she doesn’t interfere in another personal life then why was she talking about Virat’s past and questioning him as his wife when the marriage is just a deal . She is the one pushing Virat towards Pakhi ( for whatever reasons ) , isn’t that part of his personal life . Why does it matter to her if he celebrates Vday with Pakhi or not . The irony is even in GC she was the one invading his personal space by questioning about his best friend .


3. Sai Joshi doesn’t lie . That not true . She is delusional to think the marriage is just a deal for her and she never wanted to go on a trip with him . My heart went out for her when she said she was happy the trip got canceled. She was saying this to hide her hurt . Whether she expresses her feelings to Virat or not she should stop lying to herself . Same applies to Virat as well .


3. Sai asked right questions about his terms and conditions but has she ever wondered why didn’t she do that at the time of their wedding . Why does it bother her now when she was ok before . Just like Virat , she needs to ask herself .


4. The Pulkit way of inviting her home sounded so creepy . We know he is positive character but I would be concerned if my family member was invited for lunch alone by her professor .

i agree her comment about samrat was very insensitive. she is probably the only person virat has shared about samrat and she also knows what samrat means to virat. she shouldn’t have said that.

did sai really interfere in his personal matters? she said what she said today because virat has provoked her. otherwise she would never have brought up his and pakhi’s relationship. she never liked pakhi interfering in their matters but never called out. today also he was pointing out her battameezi, but what about his so called best friend? he has actually given pakhi right to insult sai at every given opportunity. it was only during mohit’s track that he questioned pakhi. sai was right in calling out.

yes i agree, she needs to introspect why she is bothered by their relationship. is she really delusional in thinking their marriage is a deal? i don’t think so. yes she is emotionally attached to him, but if time comes she will be ready to keep up her part if the deal. my heart went out for her when she said that she is all alone. it is so very true. yes, virat supports her but there have been many instances where he has chosen his family and his so called best friend over sai.

virat said that sai cannot read people, yes this may be true in respect of virat, she is unable to understand his feelings, but the same is true for virat as well. he neither understands pakhi’s intentions nor sai’s care. he always says she does not even consider him her friend, how come he is unable to understand that the girl is falling in love with him and afraid to even admit it to herself for the fear of having expectations where she can have none.

this confrontation was very much needed. i just hope virat not only undertands sai’s insecurities and see pakhi’s intentions as well and clear the air.

but kudos to neil and ayesha for making the characters of virat and sai so believable. they have been very few couples on itv whom i have got attached to like sairat.❤️❤️❤️

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