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Posted: 5 years ago
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Ashwini knows that it was Pakhi who was calling Virat after her marriage and it's her who is targeting Sai due to her jealousy hence she feels Pakhi’s intentions are not right.She saw it was Pakhi who was eager to take good for him the previous night. Until now Virat hasn't done anything to make Ashwini believe her son is crossing his line. Today she had a problem with Pakhi poisoning Virat's mind hence she gave that look while taking him out.


I don't think Virat is a product of patriarchy. If he thought bringing food was women's job he would not have offered to get food for both of them when Sai was sick. He could have called his mom or someone to get food. He associates bringing dinner to the affection between husband and wife. He is upset because he feels Sai doesn't care for him not because she is not fulfilling her wife’s duty.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: scarlett22

Ditto, Janki Ditto. I had the same underwhelming feeling with the Ashwini - Virat scene. Isn't this also a sign of a patriarchal family where the son is protected from whatever he does wrong? So he continues to think that for his women, their world revolves around him. Sai will fit in.. don't worry, she will be the best bahu. But Aai, what about your son, will he be able to become the best husband?

But this is such an evolving concept in India and many other countries, that it would take years to dismantle.

So I will take it as a cute scene that a lot of women would enjoy. Ki mera beta kitna bhola hai.

The elephant 🐘 in the room continues to exist unaddressed!

He was completely wrong in walking into Pakhi's room after a fight with his wife. Like you said, what would he have done if Samrat was there? And what exactly does that look of surprise on his face mean? How does he not see it as wrong??

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I am just going to speak about Ashwini sincr everything else I had in mind has already been said by you and rest of the sisterhood.

What you have pointed out about Ashwini holding pakhi responsible and not even voicing the concern to Virat is so true and this is how it has been ever since she found about their interest in each other (nope not calling it love or relationship šŸ˜†) before marriage. Till date she has not even made it known to Virat that she knows about him and PP. I guess this is Ashwini's flaw goes on to show how much patriarchy is ingrained in the society that even people who might otherwise keep an open mind have internalised prejudices that allows patriarchy to rear its ugly head. There is no other way to put it but Ashwini is clearly biased in this issue, she is completely right in standing up for Sai whenever PP spews her venom and the other day when she tried stopping her from taking dinner to Virat's room but today she clearly knew who was calling out to whom and who was in whose room which was completely overlooked or at least not addressed with a fair mind.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Mast ha mast

I loved ur analysis and totally agree with u

Waiseh iam sure both will learn from their mistakes , and iam glad they have kind of understood where they are wrong , virat is slowly and steadily and deeply falling for sai


Well iam looking forward to watch round up session by acp sahab

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: prs_725


I havnt seen the episode yet but was he playing w his ring or making it go up and down on his hand? If it was the latter, I think it signifies his stance in the relationship. If he was playing w it in a way of up and down, it shows he himself is questioning his relationship and marriage w Sai and hence feels entitled to that ā€œloveā€ that’s always available.

He just turns it around in its place -- I found it interesting because, it's generally a sign that the person is hiding emotions. The anxiety and restlessness at not being able to express what is actually bothering. I don't want to discern it an act for loyalty or cheating but definitely feels like he's aware he is not able to express what he wants to say.

He was doing it when he turned his back on Sai after the "Haan maine bohat Kiya hai tumhare liye" and the Aaba comparison she made.

Today he was doing it while talking about Sai not understanding how 'jali Kati baatein' affects him which is actually not true. He can handle all that when his emotions are under his control. He's restless because he's losing control on what he thought he'd be able to control -- Dil Ka machalna and Dil Ka jalnašŸ˜…

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

And yes, he was really hungry by now so he decided to skip the jalebis and huff out of the room... But where did his feet take him? Straight through door that is always open for him šŸ˜– and today, it looked like he even knows that. Sorry to say, but the way he just entered Bade Bhai ki wife Ka room, without even reducing his pace and straight into the middle of it -- as if it were his own room, his body language until Ashwini came was putting off. I don't think he did not realise that he had entered his missing brother's bedroom to ask for dinner... "Koi fark nahi padta, sab jaante hain tum mere liye khaana laati ho" šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘

Mubarak ho, kal se freestyle Kathak ke badle Naagin naach Hoga inke bedroom me. He was angry and hungry but he was so aware about what he was doing.

For once, even PP Didi asked the correct question when he said Sai is participating in a dance competition: Isme problem kya hai? šŸ˜…šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ I'll tell you Didi, problem is this that your imaginary husband just saw his real wife in a graceful dance and thought she'd say 'You are the reason of my happiness'. But it turns out that some other guy -- some khet-- made her so happy that she broke into a dance. Aapke imaginary husband ko hazm nahi ho raha hai. But he does remember the guy's name now because he almost told you "Wo Ani..." But Chavan saheb was so hungry that he ate up the khet. And he was so alert not to let the actual reason slip out in front of even his ex lover. If he has said it, she would have caught that immediately and even used it to her opportunity.. for all you know, ACP se pehle round up par Army wife pohach jaati medical college šŸ˜‚

Coming back, I cannot condone this walking right into the bedroom of an ex-lover just because you're besides yourself with your spouse! How far is his mother's room? And more importantly, how far is the kitchen? Can't a trained IPS officer serve himself dinner? šŸ˜’šŸ˜’ Why does he need someone to show him what's for dinner? And did he not know that his screaming out to PP Didi must have been heard by everyone who heard the wife dancing to the song? So because he was calling out to PP, Bhavani decided to stay in her room because she didn't want to interrupt her one chaheete bete ki Susheel bahu's opportunity to entice her other chaheeta beta? Warna toh even a vase breaking in the corner of the bedroom makes everyone rush out to check if an earthquake has struck the mansion.

But what was this barging into PP's room about? And no, for once I don't want to blame Patralekha. She did not step out of her room and I appreciate it. Yes, she wanted to grab the opportunity once he was there because it is the only thing she honestly wants -- this time with him that he was offering her today. There is nothing else she wants as sincerely as this. šŸ˜‘

Virat's one visit to her bedroom in that state has opened up all doors of hope for her. And it has undone any little boundary that he has laid so far by telling her not to wait for him or maintaining that physical distance. It came completely undone. šŸ˜” I liked it that for once Patralekha perhaps stayed back in her room knowing that Virat is on Sai's side, especially after the chilli grinding payback but now can you blame her for feeling that he's showing signs of seeking her too -- unaware that it is his growing desire for Sai that is making him lose control on his mind. She would rightfully think that he's regretting Sai's presence in his life. And when she asked him the question, he fuelled it with "Sai doesn't understand!"

Chalo Chavan Saheb, at least your true love and your imaginary wife will understand that you're not over her as she was beginning to feel and that you are still seeking her, thinking about her and yearning to have dinners with her. All in all: she has her answer to "Will my ex return to me". Her bubble will burst soon but...

Why should Patralekha be blamed for Virat walking into her bedroom at that hour? And Ashwini, yes she intervened at the right time but left me very disappointed. She said the right things to him about his relationship with Sai but what about his act of visiting PP Didi. If she skipped it because "Mera beta bhookha tha", then I am sorry, he is also no kid that he cannot be admonished for this. Why does Ashwini have to give Patralekha the looks she did while taking away her 'Godu' after the cheek pulling? It seemed like, "See I saved my son from falling into your enticement". Why Ashwini?

This is exactly how women feed the sense of entitlement that men feel over women. Why couldn't she chastise him more than just saying, 'Tumhe Patralekha ke room me dinner Karne ki zaroorat Nahi hai", which was actually a taunt to PP and not her son. Did Ashwini forget that it was he, who was there and not Patralekha who had crossed her line this time. I find this extremely unacceptable. And while I felt sorry for PP, I know that Virat's thoughtless act, which was deliberate, is only going to have PP find more space between Sai and him. All this for what? Jealousy? What do you call a man, who cannot communicate his frustration to his wife and decides to visit an ex lover for solace, without having addressed the issue that his wife's frustration for him comes from this very fact that there are three people in the marriage!


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@red To a wife or anybody else it would seem like manipulation - to get back at his wife. Are we to give him the benefit of doubt because he is the ML. I am confused - is it bad writing or am I missing something? As you said, he could have gone anywhere else. In real life, I have seen men, who are otherwise honest in their dealings, be manipulative in certain aspects of their marriage relationship - either out of arrogance or learnt from their own parents. Compare this to how Sai is potrayed - her motivations and actions (even negative ones) are very clear to the audience. The very fact she confesses using Pakhi's name to taunt Virat (to Ashwini) clearly tells us that she realizes her mistake (and probably regrets) it too


@ green When he knows that he is irked by Aniket, is he so hick-headed not to realize it as jealousy?


@blue Now it is clear that it is Ashwini's own failings combined with the patriarchy of the household has contributed to Virat's patriarchial leanings.


Somehow I have always felt that the moral weight of the whole Samrat-Pakhi-Virat-Sai saga fell on Virat - owing to his relationship with Samrat and Sai. As much as Pakhi is a person with no self-respect and questionable integrity, she has no personal relationship or obligations towards either of them ( I do not want to go into the morality of EMA). If Pakhi crossed the line, Virat had to take the moral high-ground. For once, when Pakhi makes the sensible decision of staying with her parents until Samrat returned, Virat tries to get her back to CN for his own 'sukoon'. So who is crossing the moral line? Today ofcourse, he crossed the mother of all limits.


I also noticed that today was the 3rd or 4th time that Virat ranted that Sai "dhos jamaana chaahti hai mujh par". Sai is not a domineering character - she just does what she feels like, but doesn't compel others to do as she says. Then why does Virat perceive that as 'trying to dominate'?


Sorry for the rant! Great analysis as always šŸ‘. Have a great day !

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: VioletOrchid123

Janki where do you come up with these yaar🤣


I think like Alexa so I have answers sometimes šŸ˜‚šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜‚

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Nice update jankišŸ‘


I have not yet scene d episode on small bites on insta , so I m answering acc to it .


I have a belief & do follow myself that a person should knock before entering specially any female room that 2 in night time , if possible for makers make virat apologize pakhi for it yes he consider her as a friend but he should not forget d line that she is his sister in law.


Virat needed a person to whom he can vent out , he is not very close to his father & even Mohit even sunny was out of questions , he needed a friend sadly he consider pakhi one so he went there , if samrat was available then he would had vent out to him 2 then he would had not needed to talk to pakhi.


If I m right makers did hinted virat not been good in kitchen activities in one of d episode I guess thalipeeth where usha told kamal sir taught sai cooking & Ashwani said virat font know even to boil water. To my knowledge army men & police officer r well trained in kitchen work 2 but yaha sab kuch ulta hain .


I thank makers that finally virat said sorry to Ashwani , he do realise had hurted his mom , as I was knowing virat will except his mistake of he get a scene with Ashwani as virat don't hesitate to accept his mistake.


I usually don't prefer jealousy tracks be it for anyone ML or FL coz it usually start as funny track but take s very ugly turn which I don't appreciate .


Meine sai Ashwani scene abhi dekha nhi hain , I hope she had given some meaningful information to sai about virat.


Sairat ki problem communication hain aur uske liye dono ko try karna hoga .


Thank u for d update

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Posted: 5 years ago
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We keep on addressing Pakhi as Virat's ex. Does he consider her, his ex? Or, does he consider her as just a friend on whom he was crushing and to whom he has made a promise (which he has clearly forgotten by now)? Is that why it was not problematic for him to barge in?

He stormed into an open room and credit to Pakhi, she only opened her door wide, but did not invade the couple's space.🄲 My only problem with that scene is that he did not bother to knock, because if you put aside the past dynamics between the two, (which Virat has forgotten) it was just a friend looking for a friend. I know I've barged in male cousins room, without knocking, to rant, but that was when they were not married. That does not change the fact that it was unethical of Virat to do so. That came as very surprising, especially since he had apologised for coming into his own room while Sai was dancing. Did he consider Sai's dance as something intimate that he did no right to see? Anyway, what he needs to get straight is the fact that the person who we consider as our friends, considers us as friends as well. Like you said, it gives Pakhi the license to barge into his space (she already thinks they are husband and wife living in separate room🄓)

Moreover, I think that he considers Pakhi more his friend, than his sister-in-law, which is of course, problematic because of their 1.47 past. And I do not think he was there for dinner, for me, it was more like he needed ears to listen. Aren't there times, when you prefer to talk to someone your age, instead of your mom, because you feel that that person will better understand your frustrations. Still, I would have preferred it, if he went to his mother's room.

The "Immatchure" feeding scene was nicely done, Virat's tears after the apology was such a nice touch. However, Ashwini keep on repeatingly giving Virat the pass, regarding Pakhi. She should have made it clear that it is not alright for either of them to barge into each other's bedroom at any hour.

I also did not like her advise to bring his dinner to him because he gets cranky. Come on he is a grown up.šŸ™„ I do get why he only knows how to boil water. I hope Sai brings him in line😈

And I loved his playing with his ring. Second time nah? It beautifully encapsulated his nervousness, his fear, his conflict and anxiety and his need to hide his emotions.

I'll end with: Is intention behind an act as important as the outcomes?

Two exact actions (barging in, without knocking), with the same consequences (more distance in SaiRat's marriage), can they be treated differently because of the intention behind that action? Those focusing only on intentions will tell you that Virat's heart was in the right place, and so it does not matter, because Virat was not even looking at her, he had his back to her for the most part of the conversation and he was preoccupied only with Sai. To Virat, he might see no wrong in what he did, because the primary source of his action - his intention was only linked to Sai.

But, to Pakhi, who is not aware of Virat's intentions, the outcome -that is he coming to her room - is more important and is going to encourage her.

Just like Pakhi does not find it wrong to barge into Virat's room because of her mentally imagined scenario where she is his wife, Virat does not find it wrong as well because for him, she is his imaginary friend.

Going back to my question, both are very important, but at different times. The intention is important while it is happening (which is why I will not throw chappals today), but the outcome is important later ( I will throw it to him the next time Pakhi barges in his and his wife's room), at which time the original intention will be only a memory and therefore will not matter.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav


To be honest, I was not angry with Pakhi today in the first few mins of the episode. She just decided to make the best use of opportunity that Virat gave her.

She probably thought Virat finally realized I am more compatible to him than Sai.

Same here. In that moment, Virat totally compromised his stand on the issue with Sai for now. Why couldn't he call up Sunny? He's another bekaar option but.


Agree, taking with a male friend esp Sunny who already calls her bhabhi might have been a better option.. wonder why he forgot lifelong true bestfriend over 2 day fake BFF.


She was also worried that Virat is shouting her name top of his voice but don't know thr reason. It would have been with great effort that she would have controlled herself from running into his room and ask kya hua Virat. If he didn't make her grind chillies fhat morning and she would have done that.

But with the fact that he came into her room, he's given her the opportunity to do whatever she pleases..


Also she didn't say anything about Sai if i remember clearly.. she was like this morning you said i shouldn't say anything against Sai,, but now you come here and complain about her? Even his BFF was like yeh kaisa bouncer daala hain babu, dinner oe detail me poochungi, so that I know for next time if I can continue my taunts in front of Virat or not.


She also couldn't understand why Virat was angry about a stupid fresher party dance. Good he didn't say anything else bakeda Virat ke pehle Pakhi karti in front of everyone.

That's why I felt he was alert. He didn't know where to go so he barged into bade Bhai Ka room? Will this be a regular feature in dealing with his confusion?

It feels like it. He needs true friends. Whats the use of sunny?


Also you are right, I was also hoping she would be much strict with Virat about going to pakhis room, but one can only expect so much i guess.

Ashwini reinforced her Raja Beta prem today. She shouldn't have given PP the looks. It was her son standing on the wrong side.

So true, just one line would also have been enough. I had thought this scene go a different way, but kya karein.

But what do you make of Virat's expression when Ashwini said there is no need for you to eat dinner in Patralekha 's room. Was he surprised that his mom would say that or did he think he didn't do anything wrong. i didn't like that part.

I think he realised for a fleeting moment that Ashwini had been expressing her displeasure for PP for a while and perhaps he thought she'd say something else about PP and probably chastise him, so he was a bit alert but because she spoke of the dining table, he looked away... he was anyway telling PP not to get dinner because he was not in the


I felt like he was a bit ashamed coz he knew he shouldn't have come.




Also the way Ashwini took Virat from there,, I have a bad feeling this scene will repeat someday where Virat will walk with Pakhi and she will give this look to Ashwini.

I hope not šŸ˜– but yes, there are some feelers... That mirror was significant.

Why didn't Virat tell the true reason to Aai?

He doesn't want to acknowledge he's jealous.

Ah, that's why he didn't complete his sentence with Pakhi too. Not that he was protecting Sai, he didn't want to expose his feelings.


Ashwini also gave 3 good advice to Sai, grow up, get dinner to my hangry son and dont bring Patralekha in your conversation. But wonder if dinner bit will backfire on Sai soon.

It would depend on how she handles her tongue now. She really didn't need to bring the PP reference while asking for dinner but am glad she had that monologue and called herself stupid for doing it. It shows she did it deliberately to annoy chim but hadn't expected that reaction. May be she wanted to hear him say, no you bring my dinner. smiley36

Yup. But next time he gets angry about Aniket, she is going to get food and further fight hoga, coz now she dropped thinking about the true reason for fight yesterday which she almost had figured out.


ACP apna zimmedari ke liye position misuse karne wale hain. It better be a funny scene. Coz it is possible that Sai might try to introduce them in future and it will look really silly on Virat's part if he behaves immature.

Oh yes, let's see šŸ˜…

I didn't like the new drama setup for puja, so Thursday will be 100th episode, so hoping for good SAIRAT scenes then.

They have to make up properly not by brushing their madness under the carpet..


They better not show him be upset tomorrow after meeting Aniket and when he comes back and see them complain about Alta thing, he is going to side with them until Sai shows her feet. Maybe she should kick him while she's at it.

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