Shailesh Mohite Patil vs Kamal Joshi vs Ninad Chavan

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Mujhe Pakhi se zyada toh Pakhi ke Baba par gussa aa raha hai. We really don't know all that much about the pre-Virat Pakhi but it seems like she's the 'Papa ki Pari' who is always used to getting what she wants, which is why she's unable to handle herself in this situation. I am going to compare the three fathers of Ghum-verse and how their upbringing has shaped their kids' personalities.

Shailesh: I am not going to lie. When Pakhi told her parents during the Haldi that Virat and not Samrat is the one she wants to marry, I was SUPER impressed with Shailesh. He supported Pakhi and told her that he'll even talk to Mast Mast. It wasn't pandering to Pakhi's whim, it was recognizing the situation, understanding that Pakhi will be happier with Virat and making an INFORMED decision. He wasn't just giving in to her zid. Even in the first few episodes, when her mother was always forcing her to get married, I liked it that Shailesh told her to take her time and not make a hurried decision. I could see a lot of similarities between the Sai-Kamal and Pakhi-Shailesh bond but ever since then he has just gone downhill. If he was a supportive father before now he's just a father who wants to see his daughter happy but doesn't care at what cost to others and herself. Ever since SaiRat got married, Shailesh has been making faces at Sai, as though he was lowkey hoping that Samrat won't come back and they can get VirKhi married. He was right before SamKhi's wedding when he told her to not take a hasty decision but now, as a father, it's his duty to teach his daughter that the path she's headed on is not the right one. Both Shailesh-Vaishali knew that Pakhi is there for Virat only but didn't even guide her?! This is very disturbing. He should guide her BECAUSE he loves her.


Ninad: Though Virat and Ninad always claim to be each other's best friends and what not (Virat has TOO MANY BEST FRIENDS), I have never felt the bond like I did with the Joshis or the Mohite Patils. The grihapravesh and his subsequent behaviour towards Sai just strengthened that. Ninad seems to have a very conditional love for Virat. 'As long as you do this this, listen to Vahini, I'll love you, my dutiful son'. But when the very first time when Virat went against everyone, his true colours were exposed. Ninad doesn't love Virat, he loves the image everyone has of Virat- the Shravan Kumar one. I think even Virat knows this that's why he only askes his Baba for guidance but never tells him what he's feeling. When Sai was in the hospital, he phoned him to ask him the right thing to do but didn't tell him the turmoil within. Ninad's conditional love is why Virat bottles up his feelings. Nobody wants to see a vulnerable Virat or a Virat who is confused.


Kamal: Kamal Joshi, hands down the best father of Ghum-verse. He strikes a balance between being a Ninad and Shailesh. He loved Sai to bits, quite like Shailesh but his love was never conditional. His love for Sai didn't depend on her being the perfect daughter. He accepted her with all her quirks and flaws but never stopped teaching her. When Sai was rude to Virat when he arrived in Gadchiroli, he never used her temper as an excuse but rather an explanation. He wasn't blind to Sai's mistakes like Shailesh is to Pakhi's. Kamal Joshi is the perfect example of a feminist father. He lets Sai be and doesn't try to make her something she's not- a submissive, docile 'ideal' girl but when the occasion demanded it, he also scolded her. This is very impressive for a father who's not as 'modern' as Ninad or Shailesh. Unlike both of them, he didn't confuse his love for his daughter and his duty as a father which is why among the Sai-Virat-Pakhi trio, Sai is the most sorted one. Shailesh's upbringing has made Pakhi think that she'll get what she wants and Ninad's has made Virat a very confused person- someone who never feels and does the same thing.


I miss Kamal Sir :/

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Wow!! Amazing analysis babe👏

I'm actually taking Ninad out of the equation, because he's not worthy of being called a father and everything that comes with it. He's just a fully-grown d***hebag.

Coming to Shailesh, between Vaishali and Shailesh, I really liked Shailesh in the beginning, because he didn't seem to be that kind of person who would blindly push his daughter into something or that the only thing he cared about was his daughter being married. In fact, when Pakhi told her parents about Virat, he did the most reasonable thing that any parent could do, call off the wedding with Samrat, and get her married to Virat, because, it wasn't too late, and it could have been fixed. But, as you mentioned, he completely went downhill after that. When Pakhi's parents arrived at Virat's reception, the way they were shooting daggers at Virat made me uncomfortable. Like come on! You yourself told Pakhi that it's not possible to live up to that vaada for long! How could you even encourage Pakhi to get married for the reasons she actually wanted to get married for?? It felt like he's indirectly pushing her towards an EMA.


And for Kamal Joshi, hats off to you sir! His love for Sai was immense, but he never overlooked her faults. He never encouraged her behaviour when she was rude to Virat, but yet, he let her be herself, an outspoken, honest, strong-willed girl who would never bow down to anyone. The values that he has given Sai is worth 10 times the values each member in Chavan Khandan has, put together. RIP Kamal Sir, you're terribly missed.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I loved your analysis of the three father figures and they are so aptly described.

At first even I was impressed with shailesh but now its quite disturbing to see him supporting his daughter in such situations.


As for Ninad I never liked him much in father role, when he is boasting about his friendship with virat, i was like you didnt even realise that there is something wrong with your son during whole samkhi wedding so how can you tell that you are your son's best friend..


And yes kamal joshi is the best father figure and not of ghum verse alone but I am telling for the whole itv, because in my experience I have never seen such father who is so loving but was also not blind towards his daughter's imperfections and if he is ready to love her unconditionally he also never backs down from reprimanding his daughter when she does aur says something wrong..


When kamal sir died I was sad that such a good character cam to an end. Because it was so refreshing to see the father daughter bonding.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Completely agree with the points you made here.

At first I had thought that all three fathers are supportive of their kids. They are but they differ in the way they support theirs children.

Hands down Kamal Joshi was the best father out of there. Shailesh is someone who would go any extend or is willing to go to any extend for his daughter. He only want happiness for his daughter like all the fathers but he doesn't know that as a father you are not supposed to give everything to your kids. You should say no when it's needed that's why Paaki is the most pampered. She had never heard a no from her father but that only destroyed her. In last episode when she cried leaning on the door she said that she can't accept that Sai is becoming someone who means alot to Virat. She had been someone who got the importance and one-day suddenly she saw that she is loosing the person who meant alot. So I can see why she got upset when Virat supported Sai instead of her.


Virat is the most confusing person here. He is so confused about his emotions and feelings and I think that's because he never stopped a minute to sort out his feelings. In the house everyone treat him as someone who is a well settled person who would never betray anyone in the family that's why everyone got batshit crazy seeing him marrying without informing anyone. The whole family had put him on pedestal including Paaki so it was supposed to be like this. And when people expect you to be perfect you would never be vulnerable in front of them. I wouldn't give all the credits to Ninad for making him a confused person. 😆


Sai is someone I adore. She is the finest woman. Yes she has flaws but her upbringing has made her someone who will never let anything wrong happen to her. Like once Virat said Sai will find ways at any cost to solve all her problems. Kamal Joshi had made an independent woman who doesn't need a man to support her. She had told that before she doesn't need Virat to achieve her dreams. Her father had made her someone who is enough for herself.


Thanks for this post. I love reading this. ❤️

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Good analysis mate!!!!!!

Ninad toh vaise bhi mere list mein nahi tha

Shailesh ji ko mere pranaam 👍🏼

aisa kounsa pita hota hai jo beti ka shaadi thodne ki decision ko support karta hai kyunki uski devar ne jindagi bhar celibate rehne ka waada thoda hai🤣🤣🤣

What on earth are you made of mr shailesh???????

Analyse yourself !!!!!!!! Its because of you that she turned out like this aur haan baar baar yeh hamari beti hamari beti ka jap chod do......... Kehne ki jaroorat nahi hai pata chal jaata hai donom ke dekhke ki tumhari beti hai voh ..... DNA test ki bhi jaroorat nahi padegi


KAMAL sir you have all my respect

Being a single father you gave the best of everything to sayi and made her into a ocean full of love who also knows to value people and her self respect

We dearly miss you❤️

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I loved the very idea of your post 👏and also the analysis and comparison is on point👍🏼

This is the first ever time I am seeing such a contrast in parenting....the parenting clearly reflects in their respective upbringing... but here, although Virat is a confused and a flawed personality, I am more than happy to know that he hasn't taken the very negative trait of his father of being disrespectful to womans...

Whereas Pakhi's parents,agree with you,were so good initially but now she and her parents only add fuel to Virat's already growing guilt of not keeping the crappy vaada and not being there for her😕

And finally hands down to one of the best "Aaba"👏 of gum-verse(loved your term😆)he was everything a father has to be but unfortunately he isn't there to guide his daughter anymore...R.I.P Kamal Sir😭

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Rightly said that she is 'Papa ki Pari', whose father is so blinded in her love that he's ready to let her burn in the fire of her own mind.

Totally agree with your analysis of Shailesh: I do believe that they ARE still hoping that Samrat won't come back and they propose the match to Bhavani but Virat's growing fondness for Sai, despite the deal marriage is crushing all hopes. Should he guide her? You will be surprised but I have real-life examples of this kind of fathers, who blindly support their sons/daughters in wrong decisions regarding their relationships instead of giving them practical and value-based advice. I am actually disappointed with the way his character has turned out because I was rooting for him as a father who has the courage to back his daughter and ensures she doesn't suffer but he's supporting her wrong notions and gently pushing her to hell.


Though Virat and Ninad always claim to be each other's best friends and whatnot (Virat has TOO MANY BEST FRIENDS)

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Agree with you about Ninad. But I am a bit wary still of spending energies on analysing the Makad gang and the relationships within the extended family because we do not know their backstories yet. But aptly said, that everyone in that house loves 'Virat- the Shravan Kumar' and so he carries the burden of their expectations. The ONLY person who will get shortchanged in this is Sai -- whether deal-wali wife ya Dil-wali, the spouse always suffers in some way. I am actually glad Virat did not "bottle himself up" with Sai but vented out his thought the way it came to him, unfiltered. And she was hurt but did not judge him he knows❤️.


Kamal Joshi, 😭he loved Virat as much as he loved Sai. Why would he otherwise not even think of Sai before laying down his life? Agree completely with you that Kamal Joshi is the perfect example of a feminist father. He has raised a tigress and with such a strong sense of values that she exudes the confidence in the most difficult situations. It's such a contrast that she is out of control with petty fights mostly but calm as a planner in treacherous situations -- abduction, shoot out and even Virat's threat to job (still keeping brains aside about the actual procedure).


And finally, Sharon 🤗


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