Yeh Hai Chahatein WRITTEN UPDATES AND DAILY DISCUSSIONS THREAD # 3 - Page 90

Agreed- the physical abuse needs to end. If it doesn’t - then I expect the writers to deal with acknowledging abuse is wrong and never justified. So I wonder if this will morph into a domestic violence track. If this is ongoing, Ru and his dad should both go to counselling and work on themselves.

Pree said she’ll put up with his hate when praying for Ru’s life but needs to stop taking his physical abuse. Putting up with that is not a choice if you’re strong enough to stand up to it- which she is. She needs to think of what the role models they’re being for Saraansh. She needs to draw the line and honestly kick him. I would hate to see her become submissive in the name of duty or love or whatever just like Ru’s mom.

And as an aside - I get he feels betrayed but does he ever think back to his own actions? He’s allowed to mess with ppl’s lives and they can’t mess with his? His character is being a baby and I don’t really like it!

Today's highlights

Preesha confessed that she can't live without Rudraksh.

Must say, Preesha is so strong. She pulled unconscious Rudraksh from the car alone. 👏

Sargun is the star of today's episode. The way she portrayed pain of loosing her husband and determined to be for him was amazing. 👍🏼

When happiness came..it came in plenty...and now the troubles are coming in multiple magnitudes of that. This is going to be a ride that will test Pree and Rudr and push them beyond breaking point. It started with Rudr and now it is Pree in that spot.

good-bad-ugly

Good: rudr’s life in danger has given a bit of jolt to pree to realise what he means. Saransh is going to water down more and more (Though not all) of Rudra’s plans and rudeness to pree. Expect this track to have a redemption part as well in the final leg for Rudra when tides will turn.

expected: Balraj + barbie dolls and Rudr Milan

bad: restraining order, Rudra informing Balraj and barbie dolls the truth means that as he starts to calm down and anger gives way for love to emerge again from depths of his heart, they along with Yuvraj and Rahul will at least for sometime be standing in the way and trying to pull him back in the murky depth

Ugly: there are going to be some parts of episodes that are going to be painful and frustrating to watch until Rudra hits confused state...looking at what pree will go through.

Final word:

Not one of us objected when Rudra beat up Yuvraj, slapped Rahul. Was rude to ahana. Almost hit Balraj. Because he was then defending pree who we like and who we know is good. Right now, pree stands at the top of the list of people who have done very very bad criminal and heartbreaking and inhuman things to him - in Rudra‘S list. She has - as he has been made to believe- been worse than Balraj who Abused him but made it clear there was no love to be expected from him ever only abuse..so he knew what he was getting. She is worse than Yuvraj who - at least to Rudra- has never pretended to be anything but a leech.

we as audience have all the info, we know who is in the right and who is not. It is easy for us to make judgments on either of them - Rudra or pree - with the complete knowledge that we do have. But with the info that has been provided to him - as proof - as the end of what has been made to look like accidentaL investigation ...he has no reason to think this isn’t anything but absolute truth ....at this point before doubts emerge. Rahul has connected everything..linked many things so well in a perfect bow that it will take time for questions to emerge especially after he offered to swear on his only baby girl.

so while pree is innocent to us. She is a murderer and deceiver to Rudra.

So now where from here..

Pree is not weak...I don’t expect her to be at least with everyone ex Rudra

Right now she had no clarity on what Rudra saw to change for her to know the magnitude of the issue at hand. She needs that first. May be she will get lucky by Saturday. Fingers crossed. Until then she is not sure what she is countering and what exactly is she to find proofs against,,, nor is she clear on the extent of break down Rudra is going through internally....even though she has some sense of it.

Rudra and pree are not going to go into domestic abuse zone. So please don’t make this into that extreme.

Pree needs to find her ground first and know what she is fighting before she can fight against it. So don’t judge her just yet. If she doesn’t respond back to things quickly, it is becuase she doesn’t know what she is really responding back to.

Will pree be patient with Rudra in the beginning...yes she will. And before we go into blame game mode saying how can rudra do this or how can she keep quite. Let’s remember rudra being quiet a few times when pree was slapping him, for no reasons over Yuvraj’s manipulation is what helped calm situation and not make bigger mess of it. Pree is smart. In his clouded state IF pree fights and fights, it is going to add more fuel to Rudra’s anger not calm it down.

I am not saying she is going to take shit because of that. She won’t. But she will need to find her ground before she starts giving back.

Until then, saransh will force Rudra to put saransh first, ahead of his hatred and force him to address his behaviour with pree.
she is likely to the one with clearest picture now. And hence has to be the sensible one at this stage to think things through and help them both out..the way Rudra was the sensible one during blackmail track when pree was falling apart.

In mean time, please do not use big words like domestic abuse etc loosely....Balraj has been doing that for long without provocation. This is not that don’t shade it what it isn’t and belittle actual abuse that Sharda and rudra has gone through well into his adulthood.

Originally posted by: foresight

When happiness came..it came in plenty...and now the troubles are coming in multiple magnitudes of that. This is going to be a ride that will test Pree and Rudr and push them beyond breaking point. It started with Rudr and now it is Pree in that spot.

good-bad-ugly

Good: rudr’s life in danger has given a bit of jolt to pree to realise what he means. Saransh is going to water down more and more (Though not all) of Rudra’s plans and rudeness to pree. Expect this track to have a redemption part as well in the final leg for Rudra when tides will turn.

expected: Balraj + barbie dolls and Rudr Milan

bad: restraining order, Rudra informing Balraj and barbie dolls the truth means that as he starts to calm down and anger gives way for love to emerge again from depths of his heart, they along with Yuvraj and Rahul will at least for sometime be standing in the way and trying to pull him back in the murky depth

Ugly: there are going to be some parts of episodes that are going to be painful and frustrating to watch until Rudra hits confused state...looking at what pree will go through.

Final word:

Not one of us objected when Rudra beat up Yuvraj, slapped Rahul. Was rude to ahana. Almost hit Balraj. Because he was then defending pree who we like and who we know is good. Right now, pree stands at the top of the list of people who have done very very bad criminal and heartbreaking and inhuman things to him - in Rudra‘S list. She has - as he has been made to believe- been worse than Balraj who Abused him but made it clear there was no love to be expected from him ever only abuse..so he knew what he was getting. She is worse than Yuvraj who - at least to Rudra- has never pretended to be anything but a leech.

we as audience have all the info, we know who is in the right and who is not. It is easy for us to make judgments on either of them - Rudra or pree - with the complete knowledge that we do have. But with the info that has been provided to him - as proof - as the end of what has been made to look like accidentaL investigation ...he has no reason to think this isn’t anything but absolute truth ....at this point before doubts emerge. Rahul has connected everything..linked many things so well in a perfect bow that it will take time for questions to emerge especially after he offered to swear on his only baby girl.

so while pree is innocent to us. She is a murderer and deceiver to Rudra.

So now where from here..

Pree is not weak...I don’t expect her to be at least with everyone ex Rudra

Right now she had no clarity on what Rudra saw to change for her to know the magnitude of the issue at hand. She needs that first. May be she will get lucky by Saturday. Fingers crossed. Until then she is not sure what she is countering and what exactly is she to find proofs against,,, nor is she clear on the extent of break down Rudra is going through internally....even though she has some sense of it.

Rudra and pree are not going to go into domestic abuse zone. So please don’t make this into that extreme.

Pree needs to find her ground first and know what she is fighting before she can fight against it. So don’t judge her just yet. If she doesn’t respond back to things quickly, it is becuase she doesn’t know what she is really responding back to.

Will pree be patient with Rudra in the beginning...yes she will. And before we go into blame game mode saying how can rudra do this or how can she keep quite. Let’s remember rudra being quiet a few times when pree was slapping him, for no reasons over Yuvraj’s manipulation is what helped calm situation and not make bigger mess of it. Pree is smart. In his clouded state IF pree fights and fights, it is going to add more fuel to Rudra’s anger not calm it down.

I am not saying she is going to take shit because of that. She won’t. But she will need to find her ground before she starts giving back.

Until then, saransh will force Rudra to put saransh first, ahead of his hatred and force him to address his behaviour with pree.
she is likely to the one with clearest picture now. And hence has to be the sensible one at this stage to think things through and help them both out..the way Rudra was the sensible one during blackmail track when pree was falling apart.

In mean time, please do not use big words like domestic abuse etc loosely....Balraj has been doing that for long without provocation. This is not that don’t shade it what it isn’t and belittle actual abuse that Sharda and rudra has gone through well into his adulthood.

completely agree with u Sapna... this was wat exactly i was trying to say on Monday... then it tuk different turn and i left it

Pree is not weak...I don’t expect her to be at least with everyone ex Rudra

Right now she had no clarity on what Rudra saw to change for her to know the magnitude of the issue at hand. She needs that first. May be she will get lucky by Saturday. Fingers crossed. Until then she is not sure what she is countering and what exactly is she to find proofs against,,, nor is she clear on the extent of break down Rudra is going through internally....even though she has some sense of it.

Rudra and pree are not going to go into domestic abuse zone. So please don’t make this into that extreme.

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exact point... 👍🏼👍🏼

i dont have much to say on todays epsds... it was dramtic filler...

expected MishKana and BK entry... restraining order was shock... when he gave legal notice... i thght it was divorce 😈(usual ITV stuff) thankfully its restraining order.. and from their side its valid too...

Acrdng to them Preesha is the one who destroyed Rudra, business etc... so fine with that legal side...

Bk showed some little courtesy by allowing Pree to stay at hospital.. Poppat for Ahana.. (ths may cause problem for her in later)

Sharada still on Team Preesha... so only member from K house who wants RuSha... lets see how cupid card plays here....

Appa stays with Preesha for support...

Rudra s out f danger.....

Precap..

he s so angry that thanked BK for restraining order... in anger fight.. Rudra gave a clue...😎 that he saw on ipad... Preesha tuk Neeraja help to find it...👏. Will Rahul still keep tat video with him

anyways... Saransh will be the shield to protect Pree from Rudra anger

I get your point. But my only point is he cannot suddenly switch to the devil S1 mode now, coz it feels inconsistent with the blind love he had for a while in between. The manhandling and violence in S1 is NOT the same as now, if it does happen. coz earlier she was only the murderer of her brother, he could have killed her and could still justify that. But in S2 now it comes at a time when he had confessed to himself she couldn't murder anyone, and is aware of his feelings. All the character development he went through has been ruined for the sake of drama. He thinks she cheated on him, fine. He thinks he might have been wrong in his judgement and she might have actually killed her brother, fine. All this might overpower the love, but not eliminate it overnight. He can be rude but pulling her hair and manhandling does not look good on rudra, especially after all these episodes of being madly in love. They need to show some inner conflict and dilemma.

Actually the writers made it extreme in both cases. When it was love, it was blind, he did not even need any explanation. And now in hatred also all there is no limit. This is not how it is in real life. We rationalize. Anyway, guess that's why it is a show.

Originally posted by: foresight

When happiness came..it came in plenty...and now the troubles are coming in multiple magnitudes of that. This is going to be a ride that will test Pree and Rudr and push them beyond breaking point. It started with Rudr and now it is Pree in that spot.

good-bad-ugly

Good: rudr’s life in danger has given a bit of jolt to pree to realise what he means. Saransh is going to water down more and more (Though not all) of Rudra’s plans and rudeness to pree. Expect this track to have a redemption part as well in the final leg for Rudra when tides will turn.

expected: Balraj + barbie dolls and Rudr Milan

bad: restraining order, Rudra informing Balraj and barbie dolls the truth means that as he starts to calm down and anger gives way for love to emerge again from depths of his heart, they along with Yuvraj and Rahul will at least for sometime be standing in the way and trying to pull him back in the murky depth

Ugly: there are going to be some parts of episodes that are going to be painful and frustrating to watch until Rudra hits confused state...looking at what pree will go through.

Final word:

Not one of us objected when Rudra beat up Yuvraj, slapped Rahul. Was rude to ahana. Almost hit Balraj. Because he was then defending pree who we like and who we know is good. Right now, pree stands at the top of the list of people who have done very very bad criminal and heartbreaking and inhuman things to him - in Rudra‘S list. She has - as he has been made to believe- been worse than Balraj who Abused him but made it clear there was no love to be expected from him ever only abuse..so he knew what he was getting. She is worse than Yuvraj who - at least to Rudra- has never pretended to be anything but a leech.

we as audience have all the info, we know who is in the right and who is not. It is easy for us to make judgments on either of them - Rudra or pree - with the complete knowledge that we do have. But with the info that has been provided to him - as proof - as the end of what has been made to look like accidentaL investigation ...he has no reason to think this isn’t anything but absolute truth ....at this point before doubts emerge. Rahul has connected everything..linked many things so well in a perfect bow that it will take time for questions to emerge especially after he offered to swear on his only baby girl.

so while pree is innocent to us. She is a murderer and deceiver to Rudra.

So now where from here..

Pree is not weak...I don’t expect her to be at least with everyone ex Rudra

Right now she had no clarity on what Rudra saw to change for her to know the magnitude of the issue at hand. She needs that first. May be she will get lucky by Saturday. Fingers crossed. Until then she is not sure what she is countering and what exactly is she to find proofs against,,, nor is she clear on the extent of break down Rudra is going through internally....even though she has some sense of it.

Rudra and pree are not going to go into domestic abuse zone. So please don’t make this into that extreme.

Pree needs to find her ground first and know what she is fighting before she can fight against it. So don’t judge her just yet. If she doesn’t respond back to things quickly, it is becuase she doesn’t know what she is really responding back to.

Will pree be patient with Rudra in the beginning...yes she will. And before we go into blame game mode saying how can rudra do this or how can she keep quite. Let’s remember rudra being quiet a few times when pree was slapping him, for no reasons over Yuvraj’s manipulation is what helped calm situation and not make bigger mess of it. Pree is smart. In his clouded state IF pree fights and fights, it is going to add more fuel to Rudra’s anger not calm it down.

I am not saying she is going to take shit because of that. She won’t. But she will need to find her ground before she starts giving back.

Until then, saransh will force Rudra to put saransh first, ahead of his hatred and force him to address his behaviour with pree.
she is likely to the one with clearest picture now. And hence has to be the sensible one at this stage to think things through and help them both out..the way Rudra was the sensible one during blackmail track when pree was falling apart.

In mean time, please do not use big words like domestic abuse etc loosely....Balraj has been doing that for long without provocation. This is not that don’t shade it what it isn’t and belittle actual abuse that Sharda and rudra has gone through well into his adulthood.

Regarding Preesha realisation..

Acrdng to me... Naah... she s yet to realise... Preesha pov are short and wisely handed.... wat ever required for the situation is only shown....

So Preesha realisation will be bang on YHC episode ... cant wait for the day

Now Preesha need to handle Bk, MishkAna, Rudra....and 2 YuvRa....

only key she got is Neeraja....

lets see how she goin to bring back all which Rudra lost in the name of Preesha..... which will be eye opening for BK....

during concert time too... online concert idea was given by Pree... and BK was happy....

SO once everything gets normal... i guess BK may cools dwn with pree...atleast for some time

Originally posted by: hs77

I get your point. But my only point is he cannot suddenly switch to the devil S1 mode now, coz it feels inconsistent with the blind love he had for a while in between. The manhandling and violence in S1 is NOT the same as now, if it does happen. coz earlier she was only the murderer of her brother, he could have killed her and could still justify that. But in S2 now it comes at a time when he had confessed to himself she couldn't murder anyone, and is aware of his feelings. He thinks she cheated on him, fine. He thinks he might have been wrong in his judgement and she might have actually killed her brother, fine. All this might overpower the love, but not eliminate it overnight. He can be rude but pulling her hair and manhandling does not look good on rudra, especially after all these episodes of being madly in love. They need to show some inner conflict and dilemma.

disagreeing on this point.... he was aware of his feelings... and made up his mind Preesha didnt kill his brother...

But But... after the video Rahul shown, wat ever explanation Rahul gave regarding Preesha and Yuvraj.... made Rudra think he was FOOLEd.... Preesha fooled him using her innocence acting....

Hence he is like... i am correct on Judging Preesha... She killed my brother for Yuvraj.... She betrayed me for Yuvraj..... the insecure in Rudra overpowered his Love for Preesha... and turned him to evil type.... Once the things calm down , he may re think... til then ....he will act VIOLENT... do not forget one point... He s VICTIM of child abuse... the child who are victims.. are VIOLENT...

Actually the writers made it extreme in both cases. When it was love, it was blind, he did not even need any explanation. And now in hatred also all there is no limit. This is not how it is in real life. We rationalize. Anyway, guess that's why it is a show.

P.S i am not justifying manhandling... just trying to explain my point from Rudra's POV

We can agree to disagree here. To me domestic violence is physical abuse in a domestic setting. In the precap, Ru is pulling Pree’s hair and she is in pain and he probably won’t let up till Saraansh comes in. That’s physical abuse in a domestic relationship.

We can justify his actions and even understand how or why he’s reacting like this given all that’s happened to him in the last 2 days of his life. But our understanding of why he does/did it, doesn’t render it something other than what it is. It still remains abuse IMO. And I don’t think she needs to understand where he’s coming from to shut that down right now and right away. Who cares what his reasons are?? Stop him - when he was drunk, he had more of an excuse. But dead sober in the hospital- not cool.

It works to some extent in a show and we can sit here and watch and try to enjoy this entertainment. But in real life, there’s no way a husband or wife should put up with abuse ESPECIALLY when they don’t know the cause of the abuse. And that’s what’s happened here. There’s no way a real life couple should allow one partner to go absolutely bonkers on each other without the other knowing what happened.

So it’s believable if he resorts to anger- raises his voice, is condescending etc. But still TALK. This guy’s not doing that, he’s resorting to physical abuse and she’s taking it as shown in the precap. It’s not cool. I seriously want to see her kick him vs ‘loving’ him so much that she’ll just keep whining and pleading for him to stop b/c he’s hurting her. That’s not love or care.

Has anyone thought about how many wrong assumptions Rudra has about Preesha ? How can he even think that Preesha can have a affair with his brother and can produce a child with him who is of Preesha's elder brother's age ?

Accusing her of using Saraansh to trap himself by Rudra was too much. The same woman who put her life at risk for Saransh from Niketan why will she do this?

She brought saransh in this world and gave him a heartbeat even though she didnt give him birth and sacrificed all her life, youth, happiness for him and took his responsibility at a early age which is not easy.

Any other woman in Preesha's place would have given Mahima's child to a orphanage or a brothel or would have told Mahima to abort her kid. But yet she supported her even though Mahima's lover Rajeev abandoned her in her pregnancy state and the child and never even enquired about them.

If Rudra is behing so badly with Preesha now hurting her, will he behave the same way hurting and messing with her life, manhandling her hating her when Mahima's truth and Rajeev's murder truth is out ?

And most imp thing is after this MU is ended and Preesha is proved innocent, will Rudra ever think about all his bad words, and his own actions against Preesha and her family ?

Bcoz last time after the rape attempt and taking Preesha to club in front of goons, they never showed him feeling guilty at all.