Kangana demands fast justice for Hathras gang rape case. - Page 10

Originally posted by: snatch

he said he condemn. he is also telling about one of the main reason behind such rapes. that is giving youngsters jobs and that way civilising them. whats wrong in what he said.

its a shame mediocre people dont even understand such advices.

What he said is fair - there are links to unemployment and rape. What pisses me off is the way he phrased it. It comes across as condescending and a justification (yes, even though he said it isn’t a justification. Just because he said that it doesn’t mean that).

His point should have been straightforward, but he looped through various things:

1) sex is a natural urge to men

2) In India, people can really only have sex after marriage.
3) But no one wants to marry unemployed guys, so we are left with a bunch of horny, sex craving freaks.
4) Population went up, jobs didn’t. Rapes are obviously going to increase.
5) We have to create more jobs.

Unemployment is perhaps one, among many factors, why rape is prevalent in India AND the world. He failed to explain WHY unemployment causes men to rape women. He just made an assumption (which some research has shown as possible).

He can deny it being a justification, he can condemn it for all he wants, but he handled a sensitive topic in an idiotic way.

Originally posted by: fosla

#BetiBachao vs #BetiJalao

Is there proof?

All I read about was conflicting statements between the family and the local authorities.

Countries like Myanmar, Vietnam, Philippines, Nepal and Cambodia have more poverty than India and rising unemployment as well. But do we hear of brutal gang rapes there?

India ranks with the likes of Syria, Afghanistan, Congo, Somalia in terms of crimes against women. I mean, we are put in the same category as war-torn countries that have never seen stability or democracy in generations.

In the case of Priyanka Reddy rape and murder, all the culprits were not only employed, they were also making enough money to buy and consume liquor regularly. Same was the case with Nirbhaya. All the culprits belonged to the underprivileged section, but they were all making a decent living.

Men in India have been conditioned through generations to feel privileged and powerful and protected. And that has been taken literally by a large section of them, who genuinely think that they have the right to rape any women they deem fit and no one can do anything about it. And till this mentality changes, rapes will continue to happen. All we can do is protect our daughters and pray to God to keep them safe.

Originally posted by: SugaAgustD

He is encouraging such criminals. If people support what he said then it is problematic. Women are not born so that jobless people can release their frustration on them.

that was not his point at all.. everyone should be civilised is his point.

katju will get criticised because he is a no nonsense guy who often criticise politicial and religious fanatics without any kind of discrimination.

fanatics you know how they are. they always wait for their moment to settle their scores. dont fall in their dramebaaz.

Originally posted by: beena_jon

This man was a Supreme court JUDGE😈😡

Katju as usual fails to see complete picture.

He is one of those who sees one case out of thousands and assume that sample is the reason for everyone else.

Is he wrong in saying, better economical and educational condition will lessen crimes? No he isn't. He is correct in that, but he fails to recognise that rape doesn't happen because of economical instability, rather lack of respect for women folk.

Such monsters have sick mindset. They will not stop doing these crimes just because they have jobs or they get married. I read the some of the rapists in Nirbhaya case were married. So this point is invalid. One of them was a bus driver. So he had a job too.

Originally posted by: snatch

that was not his point at all.. everyone should be civilised is his point.

Originally posted by: Harley_Quinn

@bold, did anyone actually thought that a person who has committed such brutality on a girl can have remorse for his act? If he had a feeling like remorse or guilt in him then he wouldn't have committed such a heinous crime in the first place. We have to understand that the mentality of these people is very different than us normal folks, and it's embedded deeply in them since childhood.

Raping a girl is one thing and committing brutalities on her like inserting rod in her body or cutting off her tongue is another. That's insanity and not something a normal person will ever do without grossing out. We feel sick, disgusted and even scared while thinking or reading about it and these people have done such acts. Clearly their mentality and thought process is very different than us.

These people are sociopaths and pose a danger to society. I still feel a bit scared thinking about the fact that the juvenile rapist in Nirbhaya case is still alive and living among us. His identity is still being protected by our government and nobody knows who he really is. Who knows he might be sitting just next to us? Even he didn't feel any guilt or remorse for his act. Who'll protect his next victim? The government who takes more priority in saving a rapist than his victim?

Lawyers ka toh khair job hi hain, to defend these criminals and even get publicity from these high profile cases to increase their clients. Can't really judge them, and as for the mothers and wives of these monsters, I guess the regressive society in which they live expects them to support their sons and husbands even if they don't want to, otherwise they will get disowned. Can't judge them either.

I fully agree with your point. Anyone who's capable of raping, inserting rods inside their private parts and cutting off their body parts is a deranged psychopath without an ounce of empathy and doesn't belong in a civilized society. I don't know why the smirk on that rapist's face made my skin crawl despite knowing better but it did, I just couldn't help it.

What's also important to note is that these monsters come from diverse backgrounds and social statuses. Nothing that preceded their actions can be used as a "reason" cuz that level of violence and brutality is completely inexcusable.

It's hard to come up with workable solutions when politicians who are supposedly the decision makers can't recognize the problem at all and instead chalk it up to covid and unemployment. What an ignorant @$$.

Originally posted by: SugaAgustD

Such monsters have sick mindset. They will not stop doing these crimes just because they have jobs or they get married. I read the some of the rapists in Nirbhaya case were married. So this point is invalid. One of them was a bus driver. So he had a job too.

agree with you. people do rape and commit crime even if they have everything.

the context of his post was making people civilised and that way deter them from committing crime and lessen the amount of crime . it was not in bad taste.

Don't know if I should post this here or not but alas.

https://scroll.in/latest/974578/after-hathras-case-another-dalit-woman-allegedly-gangraped-in-uttar-pradesh-dies-of-injuries