KZK failure??? - Page 9

Originally posted by: RollingStones

They had all plans of establishing BaPre Hari not just BaPre even Sneha-Bajaj ....

Kuki was first introduced as Sneha only later they changed her name to permanent Kuki ..... so they had all plans of Sneha Rishabh Bajaj ...

And how can you forget what Eri has been doing with AnuPreand AnuPre/Parica fans 😆 ever since Bajaj track1 started .
To break the online AnuPre fandom they chose this way ..... and Eri is still doing that 😆.

Eri can keep doing this stunts , yes it does hurt us but TRP audience least cares about these stunts .... they gave their verdict and the overnight Krish stunt happened and honestly last year itself BaPre fate was sealed .

But ... but they still have last attempt to establish BaPre that is when Parth leaves ..... let’s see 😆.

Honestly if you ask me even if Parth leaves BaPre still going to be rejected ..... like I said BaPre fate got sealed last year only ....

Whatever eri did was offscreen, and for this track?😆. But onscreen they did not even tried. Baj 1 track, pre was robotic n not even friendship was there. She behaved just like nanny to kukki. Baj 2 track we are seeing. He is nothing but mentor to her. I didn't see or feel in single episode they tried to establish even a friendship. It was just one sided pyaar from baj. Other than that, i never felt bajpre.

But our forum uproared, even prerna gives a smile to baj that was altogether different thing😆

Originally posted by: surbhi1995

After prerish wedding,I saw iv of Erica and she said u will witness prerish romance.Anurag was showed out of character and after that accident sequence.bapre scene in taxi and on road.Thar week was worse for a anupre fan.

But after that on mndy track changed 180 degree with bjaj saying he did accident intensionally and everything that followed looked like overnight track change.

During lockdown hints were dropped by Erica a out bjaj being snehas father,bjaj is better than anurag.it seems makers wanted to go for bapre as couple but after lockdown every show changed its track followed by change in ratings.eceryone can see again narrative has been shifted towards anuprepie.

This is what I deciphered from the show.

I really wonder, erica broke anupre fans heart for this kind of track?😆. May be she thought it would follow s1. But this season there is no prerish. Maximum it would be friends. Nothing more.

Those taxi scene, it was all one sided pyaar. Was anytime did they show pre moving on? She has not even moved a inch.

I don't know what they will show in future. But till date there was no prerish. Seeing current scenario another 1 month prerish is not happening.

And why you guys even take eri words seriously. She says #kuchbee. Is there any truth in her words😆

Originally posted by: Hari73

Whatever eri did was offscreen, and for this track?😆. But onscreen they did not even tried. Baj 1 track, pre was robotic n not even friendship was there. She behaved just like nanny to kukki. Baj 2 track we are seeing. He is nothing but mentor to her. I didn't see or feel in single episode they tried to establish even a friendship. It was just one sided pyaar from baj. Other than that, i never felt bajpre.

But our forum uproared, even prerna gives a smile to baj that was altogether different thing😆

Hari not sure about now but they had all hopes in last bajaj track to go season 1 way. There was a BTS of prergent prerna when she was married to bajaj but non of that was shown in actual episode they scrapped lot of stuff at that time to begin with stretching prerna's pregnancy after marriage to bajaj is one big give away that they were not sure about putting that out completely and butcher anurag more permanently after that but ratings went down and things took 360 turn and so many BTS are proofs that they scrapped lot of stuff.

Flip flop and uncertainty was for everyone to see and even anurag was send to London for no reason but brought back 😆

Not very much informed about offline stuff that happened so i don't know about that i am just saying about their shooting and scrapping pattern.

Originally posted by: oa2019

I've never really posted anything on IF or really commented because of the tendency for every topic to turn toxic. however i just wanted to voice my thoughts & questions to why i think KZK didn't work.

the shitty writing is the main reason. there's no plot whatsoever & no logic, but i noticed that's common amongst the board across Indian Tv Shows. Every show consists of the male & female lead getting together & separating then reuniting. no matter what the male lead does the female is expected to still love him years later & isn't allowed to move on (the ML doesn't even apologise or even show remorse). That is very regressive. i understand that these are fiction shows & for entertainment purposes but REEL does affect REAL. i don't know if most shows are like that that's why the audience expects it or vice versa? there are a few shows where the story is little different & can be appreciated but these are few & far between.

also characters are separated into HEROS & VILLIANS. people evolve & change in real life but here they're not allowed to. 1 dimensional characters are boring & affect the story being told. people make mistakes & learn from them or fail, that's what makes it interesting.

coming back to KZK, the show has so many interesting characters that could have served as good sub-plots but the story is reduced to the couple of AnuPre. KZK is only breathing because of this couple or rather the popularity of the actors playing them. KZK is supposed to be an epic love saga of A & P but AnuPre are written as the most stupid & toxic relationship I've ever seen. eventhough I'm not a hindu even i find the heavy religious tones given to such a couple very insutling. (they are human & flawed so shouldn't be compared to religious deities).

I've seen on various social media platforms that most AnuPre fans are actually Anurag fans & not Prerna, same with PreRish & Bajaj. no one really roots for Prerna because she's that badly written. i found it more interesting to watch Anurag & Bajaj's tashan filled scenes, they had so much more chemistry then the actual couples did 😆. all the characters are written inconsistently except Mohini. when a show is reduced to a couple & no story it won't fetch interest, TRP's or anything.

another thing I've noticed is that when the show has fetched good TRP's is when the writers had a firm story plot in mind (however small). The trio of Anu, Pre & Kom worked because it was 2 WIFES fighting for their HUSBAND (P was always shown as A's wife during these plots) I've realised the audience is willing to accept this more then 2 MEN fighting for a WOMAN especially when the woman in question is MARRIED to 1 of these MEN. again i don't know whether the audience expects this or all the shows just show that & that's why it's expected??? i won't go in to the sepearate characters 'coz people get too defensive over their favourites then things become ☢️

people on social media platforms like this can digest & analyse the show all we want but the reality is that the majority of the audience watches on tv & they expect the dutiful wife who's good, submissive, only loves the hero, is willing to fight for him, forgives all his mistakes etc etc....(my observation)

what's so frustrating is that the makers had all the ingredients to make this a great show but still managed to screw up

P.S these are just my thoughts & i mean no offence to anyone & you're welcome to disagree 👍🏼

I haven't further read the comments below but I totally agree with you. The makers had the best ingredients in their hands but didn't make use of it properly, which is why, KZK is such a distastefully delivered show. Now please don't come and tell me that Anurag or Prerna weren't good enough to be excelling as their respective characters. Parth Samthaan and Erica Fernandes were at their best, just that the storyline turned so shitty over the period of time.

Prerna's character grew unbearable due to the same lines she says repeatitively even after eight years. Also, Prerna died for me the moment she entered Basu house asking for her rights. That dhaaga marriage was one nonsense track. Not to forget, all of that happened because of the fans who didn't want to see AnuPre seperate (cons of social media).

People who think that love is consistent all your life need to change their mentality, also those who think that first love is everything. AnuPre might have been each other's first love, Pre might be dutiful to Rishab and still she can love Anurag. Theirs a beauty from loving afar which was never shown in the show. When I got to know that PaRica were casted together, I had started rooting for them. Then the komo track had destroyed their ever so lovely pair for me. PaRica was like a dream come true and yet...well...anyway it's ending. AnuPre, together or not, will always be special for me. Through them I saw PaRica's friendship, their bonding and am forever stanning Parth Samthaan

And yes, I'm never going for reboots or sequels again, if not the same cast as before. Period.

the story started unravelling soon as Komo came on the screen. AnuPre started unravelling then, Anu insulting Pre publicly (for whatever reasons) her entrance of Pre 2.0 (they couldn't even do justice to this new version of Pre nor stick to it) the constant fake fights, sauten/sauten drama, the constant insulting of Pre & the icing on the cake, Pre not punishing Komo for MURDERING her father. They simply just repeated this formula for RB's track with Anu being on the receiving end. This proves that the CV's had no storyline or ideas to keep AnuPre separate (as per demands of the theme) other than marriage. It could have been anyone RB, Komolika/Sonalika, Viraj or some other random person they just didn't know what to do apart from marriage.

And i understand why people hate RB for separating AnuPre (they could have done it so much better ) but the fact is he left to let them unite (for whatever reason) but Komo is the one who's keeping them separate & will do so till the end (her obsession makes no sense to me but ). yet people don't hate her as much, my reasoning that audience will happily accept sauten/sauten drama rings true. it's the regressive content that's shown on ITV that's the root cause. the notion that a woman should accept anything & everything & be loyal to the guy as long as he's the HERO baffles me Women shouldn't have to settle, they deserve more, respect & dignity, makers can show them as strong, intelligent & independent characters. This doesn't mean she can't forgive him or still love him or want to be with him, you can do all this & stand tall & proud at the same time. why is that hard to show???

A show is always more than just a couple, period. every character should matter & make a difference to the story. Its not that difficult to do. as long as audience just watch for this couple or that couple this is the kind of content that'll be shown, shame really as there are so many talented actors out there. KZK too had a stellar cast who worked hard despite the weak script so kudos to them 👏. i personally think it's a failure simply because they wasted all the potential they had, you might think otherwise, your choice. BUT if you simply like it for the couple AnuPre or the cast who played the characters, rather than the actual story or writing, then you kinda feel the same really 😉

The fact is apart from marriages to x,y & z the makers had no concrete plan to keep AnuPre separate after NB track, so it was always doomed. The CV's had no idea of how to keep the characters of AnuPre consistent whilst adding these 3rd characters so they were always going to be butchered regardless. so it doesnt really matter if it was RB, Aparna or some random character the results would have been the same.

p.s my thoughts on some of the comments, no offence to anyone 😊

Originally posted by: oa2019

the story started unravelling soon as Komo came on the screen. AnuPre started unravelling then, Anu insulting Pre publicly (for whatever reasons) her entrance of Pre 2.0 (they couldn't even do justice to this new version of Pre nor stick to it) the constant fake fights, sauten/sauten drama, the constant insulting of Pre & the icing on the cake, Pre not punishing Komo for MURDERING her father. They simply just repeated this formula for RB's track with Anu being on the receiving end. This proves that the CV's had no storyline or ideas to keep AnuPre separate (as per demands of the theme) other than marriage. It could have been anyone RB, Komolika/Sonalika, Viraj or some other random person they just didn't know what to do apart from marriage.

And i understand why people hate RB for separating AnuPre (they could have done it so much better ) but the fact is he left to let them unite (for whatever reason) but Komo is the one who's keeping them separate & will do so till the end (her obsession makes no sense to me but ). yet people don't hate her as much, my reasoning that audience will happily accept sauten/sauten drama rings true. it's the regressive content that's shown on ITV that's the root cause. the notion that a woman should accept anything & everything & be loyal to the guy as long as he's the HERO baffles me Women shouldn't have to settle, they deserve more, respect & dignity, makers can show them as strong, intelligent & independent characters. This doesn't mean she can't forgive him or still love him or want to be with him, you can do all this & stand tall & proud at the same time. why is that hard to show???

A show is always more than just a couple, period. every character should matter & make a difference to the story. Its not that difficult to do. as long as audience just watch for this couple or that couple this is the kind of content that'll be shown, shame really as there are so many talented actors out there. KZK too had a stellar cast who worked hard despite the weak script so kudos to them 👏. i personally think it's a failure simply because they wasted all the potential they had, you might think otherwise, your choice. BUT if you simply like it for the couple AnuPre or the cast who played the characters, rather than the actual story or writing, then you kinda feel the same really 😉

The fact is apart from marriages to x,y & z the makers had no concrete plan to keep AnuPre separate after NB track, so it was always doomed. The CV's had no idea of how to keep the characters of AnuPre consistent whilst adding these 3rd characters so they were always going to be butchered regardless. so it doesnt really matter if it was RB, Aparna or some random character the results would have been the same.

p.s my thoughts on some of the comments, no offence to anyone 😊

Like I said I agree with you. It was during 2015 when I started writing a fanfiction on a couple from ITV and that fanfiction had many readers, people liked it and so eventually I wrote a reboot of it with same name (and ofc the same characters), however, it went down the line. The plot wasn't planned and after writing like 12 chapters, I quit and seriously started doubting my skills. I guess that was what had happened to Ekta. She didn't have a proper storyline and took the show for granted because it was a big name already and the cast was superbly talented.

When it comes to the other characters, leads are important but the characters alongside are equally important (as much as the villains) and kzk failed to show that. We don't know till date (until today that is) what exactly happened to Bajaj's wife (Kuki's biological mother). What happened to Shivani's unborn child? During the sautan-sautan track Prerna seemed to have forgotten about her own child.

Many seemed also to be outraged with Bajaj and not Komo because of Prerna's inconsistency in the show, also, Parth's fans (mostly that are MaNan fans) love to hate the lead character. Let's just not talk about them. I'm also a part of them and they're very bullshitting with a craziness nobody can define. Yes, all of MaNan/PaNi fans arent like that but mostly are. Also let's just say the Komo had always had so much screen space, her dialogues were written better than Prerna's, she had a craziness in her that people like. Here, am not disagreeing to you. Your views are right, too.

P.S.: I didn't say that the show wasn't good enough, it was a good run. Just that we expected better. Seeing Parth and Erica always excel as either Manik or Sonakshi, we had expected a lot. Not that they had let us down tho but the regressive track had. I hope and pray I could see them together again as a pair working together (which isn't likely to happen ik) but there's no harm in hoping!🤞

Originally posted by: rainkissed

Like I said I agree with you. It was during 2015 when I started writing a fanfiction on a couple from ITV and that fanfiction had many readers, people liked it and so eventually I wrote a reboot of it with same name (and ofc the same characters), however, it went down the line. The plot wasn't planned and after writing like 12 chapters, I quit and seriously started doubting my skills. I guess that was what had happened to Ekta. She didn't have a proper storyline and took the show for granted because it was a big name spread and the cast was superbly talented. so true 👏

When it comes to the other characters, leads are important but the characters alongside are equally important (as much as the villains) and kzk failed to show that. We don't know till date (until today that is) what exactly happened to Bajaj's wife (Kuki's biological mother). What happened to Shivani's unborn child? During the sautan-sautan track Prerna seemed to have forgotten about her own child. totally agree with you here 👍🏼

Many seemed also to be outraged with Bajaj and not Komo because of Prerna's inconsistency in the show (the CV's really did injustice to her character, such a shame if this is what passes for a modern woman ) also, Parth's fans (mostly that are MaNan fans) love to hate the lead character. Let's just not talk about them. I'm also a part of them and they're very bullshitting with a craziness nobody can define. Yes, all of MaNan/PaNi fans arent like that but mostly are. Also let's just say the Komo had always had so much screen space, her dialogues were written better than Prerna's, she had a craziness in her that people like. she was written so much better than the actual female lead, it's shocking 😵 Here, am not disagreeing to you. Your views are right, too.

P.S.: I didn't say that the show wasn't good enough, it was a good run. Just that we expected better. Seeing Parth and Erica always excel as either Manik or Sonakshi, we had expected a lot. i haven't seen either of them before but they did have good chemistry, however Parth was the stronger actor. Not that they had let us down tho but the regressive track had. I hope and pray I could see them together again as a pair working together (which isn't likely to happen ik) but there's no harm in hoping!🤞 nothing wrong with hoping 😊.

There should not be a question mark in the topic title. KZK2 equates failure of highest level.

1. Talking about Trp = massive failure. It's a blot on Ekta's otherwise successful shows in recent past.

2. In terms of story-telling. Actually it wasn't such a shocker. With the top most Puja Pandal catching fire in Epi1, Prerna's agreeing to marry a guy double her age within 1 week of the start of the show just for monetary loan purpose in today's age, Anurag's hanumaan-jump in that fire. 🤣 I should have guessed what the quality of this show could be. Writers got no chill in terms of maturity or subtlety. Too much to complaint when the story demanded one. 🤪

3. Ekta's main idea of AP story is to give them a track where their lives go on parallel track, but still keep getting connected to each other. Now to end this shitfest she has to unite AP. 🤣 What could be the bigger failure than that that she couldn't come up with anyone else who will fit into their mess. 😆 Thank GOD for sparing others and leaving these two with each other in this pathetic season. 😆

I will edit later, gotta run now, but couldnt stop. 😆