Arnab is on fire - Page 4

Originally posted by: Sailor-Moon

1.That's not how abuse works. This is extremely insensitive to people who have been through abusive relationships. Also, we 2. don't even know yet if he committed suicide or it's a cover up

1. I know I know. I always advice people to find their way out of it.

2. Again everything is a speculation. We should let investigation team explore all possible angles. We have to trust someone right??

Also I don't get everyone's obsession that this is a murder, Someone of his calibre can't die of suicide. Why he can't?? Depression is deeper and darker than we see. People who behave normal around might be feeling heavy from inside. This indeed could have given rise to nationwide awareness about depression but y'all want him to be dead by murder. Because dying of depression isn't juicy enough for indian media reporting standards. Right??

You want justice for him but you conveniently ignoring what might be the reason he is not with us anymore.

Originally posted by: Twinklingmoon

1. I know I know. I always advice people to find their way out of it.

2. Again everything is a speculation. We should let investigation team explore all possible angles. We have to trust someone right??

Also I don't get everyone's obsession that this is a murder, Someone of his calibre can't die of suicide. Why he can't?? Depression is deeper and darker than we see. People who behave normal around might be feeling heavy from inside. This indeed could have given rise to nationwide awareness about depression but y'all want him to be dead by murder. Because dying of depression isn't juicy enough for indian media reporting standards. Right??

You want justice for him but you conveniently ignoring what might be the reason he is not with us anymore.

Originally posted by: Twinklingmoon

Could he not see through her tactics?? why he didn't get rid of her. Never is too late. I am sorry rhea didn't lose anything here, but Sushant's family lost him and he lost his. I have zero soft corner for people who put their parents and loved one through pain for lifetime by ending their. I know this feeling. There are ways to end sufferings , ending life is not just one.He was close to parents, his sister was with him in end days. Of course he must have told her what he was feeling.

What Rhea did was wrong. But he let her do it. Agree or not.

Isn't that the most weird and intriguing thing in this entire matter? There has to be some reason why he couldn't get away from her. Another thing that is bugging me - his family did complain - that meant they knew that Rhea was up to something that could harm Sushant. How did they let him stay with her when they had such a suspicion strong enough to take it to the police? I mean just think about it - if I know that my loved one is surrounded with people who I feel can harm him - my first instinct would be to bring him to me, in a safe zone. I wonder how his family didn't get him to their place!

I am not blaming his family. Nor raising any accusation. I am just trying to say - that there is something really off here. Especially about Rhea. There has to be the kind of circumstances that neither he could get away from Rhea nor could his family get him to them.

Regarding soft corner - the suicide isn't confirmed yet.

But you know, even with the ones who succumb to the pressure - they deserve to be held a soft corner for. Until last year, my thought process was pretty much like the way yours is at the moment. I failed to understand how people could end their lives without thinking about their families they would leave to grieve. It was until I became suicidal. That's where the process of understanding began. It's extremely hard to resist the suicidal urges. Right or wrong doesn't really come in to the consideration in suicidal people's minds to put it quite frankly. When suicidal thought hovers, people chose it - because all that they see is the dark. No light. That is why they should end it all. They can't see the reasons why they shouldn't. And it's not their fault. It's just not in their hands. It works like hypnotism. You are commanded to get up and finish it for once and all.

It's not right but I cannot not sympathize with them.

Originally posted by: IAdoreYou

Isn't that the most weird and intriguing thing in this entire matter? There has to be some reason why he couldn't get away from her. Another thing that is bugging me - his family did complain - that meant they knew that Rhea was up to something that could harm Sushant. How did they let him stay with her when they had such a suspicion strong enough to take it to the police? I mean just think about it - if I know that my loved one is surrounded with people who I feel can harm him - my first instinct would be to bring him to me, in a safe zone. I wonder how his family didn't get him to their place!

I am not blaming his family. Nor raising any accusation. I am just trying to say - that there is something really off here. Especially about Rhea. There has to be the kind of circumstances that neither he could get away from Rhea nor could his family get him to them.

Regarding soft corner - the suicide isn't confirmed yet.

But you know, even with the ones who succumb to the pressure - they deserve to be held a soft corner for. Until last year, my thought process was pretty much like the way yours is at the moment. I failed to understand how people could end their lives without thinking about their families they would leave to grieve. It was until I became suicidal. That's where the process of understanding began. It's extremely hard to resist the suicidal urges. Right or wrong doesn't really come in to the consideration in suicidal people's minds to put it quite frankly. When suicidal thought hovers, people chose it - because all that they see is the dark. No light. That is why they should end it all. They can't see the reasons why they shouldn't. And it's not their fault. It's just not in their hands. It works like hypnotism. You are commanded to get up and finish it for once and all.

It's not right but I cannot not sympathize with them.

Agree, something if off. Moreover, she left with her bags and what not on 8th June, he was with his sister for 3 days and they say he was fine. So if she left him, his family and him would be happy right that finally he is free, so what made him lose his life on 14th?.

Did she have anything on him? that made him fear or go back to her.

what was it that was stopping him from breaking it off with her if he needed to be rescued from her and was desperate. He also said to his BIL that he wanted to leave the industry as he felt suffocated, what was it ????

He was ready to wind up everything, what made him return and what made him still be with her

Originally posted by: Twinklingmoon

Could he not see through her tactics?? why he didn't get rid of her. Never is too late. I am sorry rhea didn't lose anything here, but Sushant's family lost him and he lost his. I have zero soft corner for people who put their parents and loved one through pain for lifetime by ending their. I know this feeling. There are ways to end sufferings , ending life is not just one.He was close to parents, his sister was with him in end days. Of course he must have told her what he was feeling.

What Rhea did was wrong. But he let her do it. Agree or not.

Once you get to work or meet few people in real life who are in abusive relationships, you'd probably get to know that this is not something they CHOOSE. This just happens in a process. Suicide is never anyone's first option and they do not CHOOSE it. They are MADE to think that it's the only way out from their abuses.

Although, now I am in a point where I am not even sure if Rhea's caricatures were the only problem in SSR's life and if his death is related to her. There seems to be a bigger conspiracy ?? But that doesn't dissolve Rhea's pathetic tortures she did to him.

Originally posted by: DushtKanya

But do we even know what exactly prompted this man to take such a big step (that is if he indeed did commit suicide)? How can we judge him and say "he put his family through pain" when we haven't been in his shoes? People who are/have been close to him are saying that this person isn't someone who'd get depressed; heck he had even written his future plans only days before he died. Do we know what kind of threats the guy was probably getting if he had said "they're gonna finish me"? Do we know how trapped he might have felt for whatever reason to the point where he felt ending his life would be the panacea? Even if we shun the Rhea angle, good mental health is something primordial. I am by no means endorsing suicide, but as much as you love your parents and might want to hold on only for them, the pain can become unbearable.

People don't know us. They see what we show them. Sushant was gentleman and I believe introvert. I don't think he could tell people what exactly he's feeling. Sometimes there's so much going on in head that you can't process or express.

For now I am completely ignoring murder angle. It didn't convince me yet. But If that's the truth it will come out.

Why I think it wasn't a murder.

From 9-13th he was accompanied by his sister. If there was any disha angle she might have told that to police. Rhea left home on 8th/9th a day after Sushan't manager died.

His sister knew exactly what happened in those 4days. Why Rhea left, if they had any fight or all that. Based on the assumption i believe sushant must have poured his heart out when his sister was home. And the way Sushant family only placed changes against Rhea only confirms Sush-Rhea were good on terms. Also knowning her brother is going through so much she would not have left him alone unless she's convinced that he won't do any harm to himself. She might have guided him and helped him get over uneasy feeling.

Originally posted by: prerna4rishav

Once you get to work or meet few people in real life who are in abusive relationships, you'd probably get to know that this is not something they CHOOSE. This just happens in a process. Suicide is never anyone's first option and they do not CHOOSE it. They are MADE to think that it's the only way out from their abuses.

Although, now I am in a point where I am not even sure if Rhea's caricatures were the only problem in SSR's life and if his death is related to her. There seems to be a bigger conspiracy ?? But that doesn't dissolve Rhea's pathetic tortures she did to him.

Beautifully summarized :)

Originally posted by: Twinklingmoon

People don't know us. They see what we show them. Sushant was gentleman and I believe introvert. I don't think he could tell people what exactly he's feeling. Sometimes there's so much going on in head that you can't process or express.

For now I am completely ignoring murder angle. It didn't convince me yet. But If that's the truth it will come out.

Why I think it wasn't a murder.

From 9-13th he was accompanied by his sister. If there was any disha angle she might have told that to police. Rhea left home on 8th/9th a day after Sushan't manager died.

His sister knew exactly what happened in those 4days. Why Rhea left, if they had any fight or all that. Based on the assumption i believe sushant must have poured his heart out when his sister was home. And the way Sushant family only placed changes against Rhea only confirms Sush-Rhea were good on terms. Also knowning her brother is going through so much she would not have left him alone unless she's convinced that he won't do any harm to himself. She might have guided him and helped him get over uneasy feeling.

Looks like you're trying to explain why this WAS a murder!

Originally posted by: tina59

Agree, something if off. Moreover, she left with her bags and what not on 8th June, he was with his sister for 3 days and they say he was fine. So if she left him, his family and him would be happy right that finally he is free, so what made him lose his life on 14th?.

Did she have anything on him? that made him fear or go back to her.

what was it that was stopping him from breaking it off with her if he needed to be rescued from her and was desperate. He also said to his BIL that he wanted to leave the industry as he felt suffocated, what was it ????

He was ready to wind up everything, what made him return and what made him still be with her

Something seems terribly off here. Clearly, there is a more to it than what we know so far.

Even if we keep that aside, the way the request for the CBI investigation is being furiously and desperately avoided and the way they are not letting Bihar cops investigate - it is just adding on to the suspicion.

Originally posted by: prerna4rishav

Although, now I am in a point where I am not even sure if Rhea's caricatures were the only problem in SSR's life and if his death is related to her. There seems to be a bigger conspiracy ?? But that doesn't dissolve Rhea's pathetic tortures she did to him.

Same.

These two seem two different things now. Surely, Rhea seemed to have done a hell lot of things but the conspiracy indeed seems bigger.