Mr Bajaj-KSG Replacement Discussion thread. Note -pg7, 48, 78 - Page 35

Both the channel and PH will have to adjust. The channel should reduce the no. of episodes aired/week.

Originally posted by: WaqtZaya

Okay fine I am thinking from the employer's pov too, they are already safe in their houses in no way working on the fields and already saying they will not take responsibility of any liability? Isn't that exploitation at the first place? Is TV industry/Movie industry even essential services that needs to resume right now in such an epicenter where cases are not stabilizing rather instead increasing? Fwice asked insurance price to be covered the regional tv could adjust to the price even when their budget isn't so, here only major bigger ph are reopening their shows yet can't agree to the cost as stated by fwice? Though their budgets are even more than that of regional tv. Coming to your third underline, generally ph is responsible for any mishap that takes place on the sets from broken bones to unfortunate incidents that leads to lives being lost. So if Fwice has already stated and asked them to take care of this, why are they being reluctant? And because they are reluctant and don't want to negotiate, fwice ofc won't pass their bills. 🤷‍♀️ Fwice is responsible for all the artists and crew. These ph approached Fwice to have their work dons, fwice did with the regulations imposed by the govt. I don't see any profits that Fwice will make out of this 🤷‍♀️ it's just for the protection of the artists and crew.

Also what makes you think daily wagers will even get money? They come with no work no pay clause heck even worse, work first then you will get money which is why they are not ready to shoot. Moreover they wouldn't be even getting paid even if the show resumes at the first place. Which is why Fwice had to intervene. They will anyway have to look for something else infact most have already migrated to their native lands or is suffering from corona**** (= the cases on rise & majority of the cases come from the areas where they stay in Mumbai = apologies of that hurts anyone the statement is made after seeing the number of cases and areas majorly affected in Mumbai)

Is the PH anyway gonna take their responsibility or anyone's responsibility when anyone gets affected?

Govt hospitals have no provisions private hospitals are charging more than 40K+ per day from where will these people even afford? Thinking from the employer pov, right, will they even be there on the field getting exposed to the threats? Thinking from the employer's pov they are all bankrupt which is why they are forcing people to shoot? Thinking from the employer's pov if the show doesn't run it should be shut okay so what about the people working in these shows? The ph can take out another project but these people?

Even fwice has said that most artists can't say because they are bounded by the contract with the pH and channels yet they all are not willing to go ahead not only because of pay cuts but also because the ph / channel will be not be responsible if anything happens to them.

Ofc many people will say we are also forced to resume work our employers don't provide all these, I ask you are working for your need, but your employer doesn't need to. Similarly the people who you are talking about actually have the provisions and money to wait, and when they do they should wait rather than risking everyone's health in the name of profits and greed and veiling them behind the name DAILY WAGERS.

& Ofc who ever is stepping out today is all about livelihood vs lives. Unfortunately the ones for whom we are batting for won't be even in the team.

See . You and I are only discussing a topic. Ultimately they will decide what's best for them. All I said is ,it cant be one sided, everyone will have to share responsibility and adjust with the new normal. That goes for the ph too...whether it's the ph or the actors or daily workers,everyone wants to make money here, nobody cares a damn about anything other than money that's why the world has come to this. It's all about the greed of humans.

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Everyone has to follow the guidelines made by the govt and there is a lot of chaos in the country bec of this. If health is the priority of any group of people ,I repeat, they must not step out of their house. If they do they will have to take the risk bec inspite of all precautions tjerr is a risk of catching infection. The whole country is running ram bharose not just one tv industry.

I gave an example of a factory owner who was earlier made liable for his employees if tested positive for corona. Thy were supposed to shut their factories in case this happens. That's why they refused to open them only after the lockdown and the govt had to agree to their terms that they can NOT be made.liable...this happened in the month of april.....suppose if all the corporates, govt offices and shopkeepers are asked to take the liability incase their worker falls sick then ? Sab ke sab kangal hi ho jayenge.

I dont wanna discuss the woes of the daily wage workers. They are the worst hit population in india at this moment and nobody other than coronavirus is responsible. This is the reality , nobody is to be blamed. The hard reality of todays times. One has to take the risk if they want to earn.

Majority of businesses in india runs on "credit" and credit only... If govt intervenes and stop it now, Sab ke sab sadak pe khade hoge.

If ph shuts the shop and finds a new project thy will employ these very people...bts team and actors can also find work elsewhere. Is it that easy ? That's why I said it's better to negotiate , do something which benefits all ..rather than quitting or stopping a project. . Working with just 30 percent of people is the BEGiNINInG..its done to roll off the shut down project... . Every factory n office post the lockdown started this way and wth time they increased the percentage keeping in mind the current scenario. Mumbai is lagging behind due to obvious reasons.. country is going through unlock 1.0. We ppl.in north india have already been through this chaos .

Originally posted by: _charu_

See . You and I are only discussing a topic. Ultimately they will decide what's best for them. All I said is ,it cant be one sided, everyone will have to share responsibility and adjust with the new normal. That goes for the ph too...whether it's the ph or the actors or daily workers,everyone wants to make money here, nobody cares a damn about anything other than money that's why the world has come to this. It's all about the greed of humans.

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Everyone has to follow the guidelines made by the govt and there is a lot of chaos in the country bec of this. If health is the priority of any group of people ,I repeat, they must not step out of their house. If they do they will have to take the risk bec inspite of all precautions tjerr is a risk of catching infection. The whole country is running ram bharose not just one tv industry.

I gave an example of a factory owner who was earlier made liable for his employees if tested positive for corona. Thy were supposed to shut their factories in case this happens. That's why they refused to open them only after the lockdown and the govt had to agree to their terms that they can NOT be made.liable...this happened in the month of april.....suppose if all the corporates, govt offices and shopkeepers are asked to take the liability incase their worker falls sick then ? Sab ke sab kangal hi ho jayenge.

I dont wanna discuss the woes of the daily wage workers. They are the worst hit population in india at this moment and nobody other than coronavirus is responsible. This is the reality , nobody is to be blamed. The hard reality of todays times. One has to take the risk if they want to earn.

Majority of businesses in india runs on "credit" and credit only... If govt intervenes and stop it now, Sab ke sab sadak pe khade hoge.

If ph shuts the shop and finds a new project thy will employ these very people...bts team and actors can also find work elsewhere. Is it that easy ? That's why I said it's better to negotiate , do something which benefits all ..rather than quitting or stopping a project. .

In some states even state government has given ordered to their employees to come back to their offices and start working ,dis order was given in d month of may when risk was increasing . Still u see employees r going back to work and moreover if dey fall sick even government is not going to bear their expenses and dey don't get any insurance also from government

If you r asking of paycuts Dan MP's huv also agreed for paycuts till 2021 . Government employees r not going to huv bonus dis year and in state , government is going to cut 30%of their salary . It's not just actors who r having paycuts .

And IT sector less said it's better how many ppl r working overtime just because dey don't want to loose job now . Every one is adjusting not just entertainment sector .

Originally posted by: Sarcastic_me

Mostly actor travel by themselves . Production house can ensure for crew members like providing bus and all . Anyway dey cannot huv whole team dat much dey can provide

Originally posted by: opsora2090

https://twitter.com/bollywood_life/status/1275626503544295426

In the middle of all this, who will be Mr Bajaj..ka buzz😆

Hiten was already Anurag ..how can he become Mr Bajaj!! So silly the buzz is getting.

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Both the channel and PH will have to adjust. The channel should reduce the no. of episodes aired/week.

in a word .. Channel , PH , Cast , Crews all will have to be balanced n would have to take best decision ,from where all will get equal privileges.. like na koi kam , na koi jeyada. agar actor ko bole 10-20% payment cut karna hoga due to the loss, taki crews ka payment usse fill up ho .. they should be co operative.. agar actor / crew unke full life security demand karte hai through 8 hrs working schedule or insurance toh channel should provide those .. in a word agar sach mai they want to start , the every members from the system should be co operative n adjustable in a row .. cos yeah ab akela ka prob nei hai.. it is in general now. ,

Originally posted by: scarlett22

In the middle of all this, who will be Mr Bajaj..ka buzz😆

Hiten was already Anurag ..how can he become Mr Bajaj!! So silly the buzz is getting.

Originally posted by: opsora2090

in a word .. Channel , PH , Cast , Crews all will have to be balanced n would have to take best decision ,from where all will get equal privileges.. like na koi kam , na koi jeyada. agar actor ko bole 10-20% payment cut karna hoga due to the loss, taki crews ka payment usse fill up ho .. they should be co operative.. agar actor / crew unke full life security demand karte hai through 8 hrs working schedule or insurance toh channel should provide those .. in a word agar sach mai they want to start , the every members from the system should be co operative n adjustable in a row .. cos yeah ab akela ka prob nei hai.. it is in general now. ,

Originally posted by: _charu_

See . You and I are only discussing a topic. Ultimately they will decide what's best for them. All I said is ,it cant be one sided, everyone will have to share responsibility and adjust with the new normal. That goes for the ph too...whether it's the ph or the actors or daily workers,everyone wants to make money here, nobody cares a damn about anything other than money that's why the world has come to this. It's all about the greed of humans.

.

Everyone has to follow the guidelines made by the govt and there is a lot of chaos in the country bec of this. If health is the priority of any group of people ,I repeat, they must not step out of their house. If they do they will have to take the risk bec inspite of all precautions tjerr is a risk of catching infection. The whole country is running ram bharose not just one tv industry.

I gave an example of a factory owner who was earlier made liable for his employees if tested positive for corona. Thy were supposed to shut their factories in case this happens. That's why they refused to open them only after the lockdown and the govt had to agree to their terms that they can NOT be made.liable...this happened in the month of april.....suppose if all the corporates, govt offices and shopkeepers are asked to take the liability incase their worker falls sick then ? Sab ke sab kangal hi ho jayenge.

I dont wanna discuss the woes of the daily wage workers. They are the worst hit population in india at this moment and nobody other than coronavirus is responsible. This is the reality , nobody is to be blamed. The hard reality of todays times. One has to take the risk if they want to earn.

Majority of businesses in india runs on "credit" and credit only... If govt intervenes and stop it now, Sab ke sab sadak pe khade hoge.

If ph shuts the shop and finds a new project thy will employ these very people...bts team and actors can also find work elsewhere. Is it that easy ? That's why I said it's better to negotiate , do something which benefits all ..rather than quitting or stopping a project. . Working with just 30 percent of people is the BEGiNINInG..its done to roll off the shut down project... . Every factory n office post the lockdown started this way and wth time they increased the percentage keeping in mind the current scenario. Mumbai is lagging behind due to obvious reasons.. country is going through unlock 1.0. We ppl.in north india have already been through this chaos .