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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

No there is only one shree that is laxmi. The other shree is only produced by people who can't digest simple facts

then what about Indra's wife Shree?i am very confused
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Posted: 5 years ago

If you go by logic then as a goddess laxmi had no purpose taking birth as rukhmini. I am sure a goddess had more responsibilities and duties than just getting married which is sad as people here think that her only role was to get married to Vishnu. Sad i know but what do unlike few god and goddess actually took there duties seriously and did not always thought about romancing and getting married to their beloved

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Lazybird_Silpa

then what about Indra's wife Shree?i am very confused

Indra s wife was sanchi not sree don't listen to all that shilpa because some people think that goddess laxmi s only job was to get married to Vishnu. They think that she hd no other duties or responsibilities

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

Indra s wife was sanchi not sree don't listen to all that shilpa because some people think that goddess laxmi s only job was to get married to Vishnu. They think that she hd no other duties or responsibilities

Indra's wife was saanchi.that makes sense.that means pandavs were not 5 indras.i don't believe that they were indras
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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: NoraSM


I don't believe in avatar too, I believe divinity was later interpolation, now I don't see a logical reason for religious people to think that Draupadi (Married to 5 Pandavas, avatar of Indras) is Goddess Laxmi (Wife of Lord Vishnu), I mean divine notions were assigned years after right? They could have simply stated that Pandavas were part of Lord Vishnu, why would they add Draupadi being Goddess Laxmi?

This is the reason I believe Draupadi is not Sri (Wife of Lord Vishnu), She is Sri from Swarga an avatar of Sachi or Indra, this is backed by citations too where Rukmini is mentioned as Sri and Draupadi as Sachi or celestial Sri


Celestial Sri and Sri was their way of distinguishing between these two people like there are 4 Krishnas, Arjun is seldom referred to as Krishna but Vasudeva Krishna is Lord Krishna, Krishnaa is Draupadi


Panchali is NEVER called Sachi or Indrani by Vyasa in MBh or Harivamsa or Bhagavatham. That scene I posted would've been the perfect place to call her Indrani if so since 5 Indras are mentioned. She is called 2 goddess names. Shri, twice. Sarasvati once, but that wasn't as an avatar, but as likening her and 5 Pandavas to Sarasvati with her 5 elephants.


I think part of the reason she was called Shri was Krishna's obvious affection for her.


One of the theories I'm juggling is this: much like Vyasa, Narada, and Indra were titles, I've heard a couple of people say Vishnu was a title conferred on someone who was Narayana. ie, sleeping man (metaphorically) awakened to action in times of crisis. I remember reading an Indrajit Bandhopadhyay article which said Panchali was Vyasa's intended Narayana much like Mohini was at one point. I vaguely remember hearing Amish Tripathi saying something similar. Later interpolations gave the title to Krishna.


One of the reasons I think it's plausible is her name. Panchali is called KrishnA more times in MBh than Krishna-Govinda is called krishna. It was her birth name while it was merely descriptor for Krishna VAsudeva. Since MBh was an oral tradition for centuries, how easy would it have been to take KrishnA's doings and assign them to Krishna? For ex, take the Ranchod episode. Does anything in Krishna-Govinda's pattern suggest to you he shied away from a fight? Kalyavan killing is actually a very female way of killing - behind the scenes and minimal casualties.


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Anyway, I got involved in this discussion only because the posts in the thread were getting a bit nonsensical (not yours). I mean... to dismiss Krishna's clear affection for Panchali in Vyasa's text takes a great deal of willful blindness.


I'm tempted to ask why? She was an awesome woman, someone who should be considered a role model for the girls of today's India. Does it really matter who liked her and who she liked? As Panchali herself said, she had a duty, and she was prepared to carry it out whether or not the Pandavas stayed with her, whether or not Krishna stayed with her.

Edited by HearMeRoar - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

It has reached 160+pages.limit is 150 page.lets wait for the new thread to continue the discussion

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Lazybird_Silpa

then what about Indra's wife Shree?i am very confused


People for their weird fantasy fail to believe that goddess Mahalakshmi can't be anyone else wife apart from lord Vishnu . Whenever goddess Lakshmi take birth she take it for lord Vishnu only.


Swargalakshmi is also known as shree who was wife of five indra born in different realms . Indra is not d name is a position of king of devas which keep changing.


Indra was cursed by lord shiv in his five birth , swargalakshmi was his wife.


Vedvyas refered Draupadi as swargalakshmi celestial shree to convince drupad for marriage with Pandavas.


A person shared d text in thus forum.


Mahalakshmi took birth as sita that war was fought by lord Ram himself coz his wife was abducted by raavan


Lord krishna never picked d weapon in MB coz neither it was his fight nor Draupadi was his wife. Infact he never wanted 2 marry Draupadi


Ab swayam vichar kijiye why will lord Narayan not wanting to marry maha Lakshmi..

Edited by deepikagupta9 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Actually, if you go by Devi Purana (clearly a later creation), Radha was Shiva avatar, and Krishna and Panchali were Parvati avatars😆. Arjuna was Vishnu avatar. At the end of the story, Krishna asks Panchali what she wants to do, and she does something along the lines of merging into Krishna. Arjuna returns to Vaikuntha,


Fun stuff! Gender bender avatar!😆

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Posted: 5 years ago

Sorry. Kali, not Parvati. Apparently, Shiva and Kali were curious how... er... intimacy was experienced by the other gender. 😆


https://www.boloji.com/articles/10893/devi-purana

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Actually, if you go by Devi Purana (clearly a later creation), Radha was Shiva avatar, and Krishna and Panchali were Parvati avatars😆. Arjuna was Vishnu avatar. At the end of the story, Krishna asks Panchali what she wants to do, and she does something along the lines of merging into Krishna. Arjuna returns to Vaikuntha,


Fun stuff! Gender bender avatar!😆

Really 😆 that s interesting

As you said willful blindness to a bond that is so obvious

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