ugh, this makes it harder to reply. Whatever, let's do this. Your quotes are in red, my replies are in black. Let the party begin.
What's the logic for Jan 1 2015? Why not 2016 or 2014?
I don't know. I'd wager it would have something to do with the bills they passed in 2015/16? But I'm not familiar with Indian Law.
And yes, if the idea is to offer shelter to persecuted minorities, what about Balochs in Balochistan, Ahmediyas in Pakistan, Sri Lankan Tamils, etc.? On what grounds is citizenship not being provided to them? This is the discrimination we are up in arms against.
Sri Lankan Tamils were given protection in a previous act, giving Ahmediyas protection would mean Muslims in India would get outraged, and we got plans for Balochistan.
But you're using this act to falsely portray concern for these persecuted minorities.
This is the same Hindu khatre mein hain line of reasoning. In a country where the majority are Hindus, Hindus are in danger? How can you equate their plight with Muslims? Just how?
Lol ... and what plight of Muslims are you talking about? They share the same rights and freedoms as Hindus do, if not more. I'm not saying Hindus Khatre mein hai, I'm saying Hindus and Muslims have it equal. Neither are in danger. Yes, fringe elements exists on either side, but for the most part, I genuinely think we can live in harmony. It doesn't matter if Hindus are majority ... Muslims have more freedom and rights in India as a Hindu majority, than Hindus and other minorities have in a Muslim majority country.
Who stayed in India? Do you realize it has been more than 72 years after partition? Most Muslims who chose to stay back in India are dead. Are you going to crucify their grandchildren and great grandchildren for the actions of their forefather and foremother? Do you even understand what you are saying?
I started off the sentence followed with: "this victimization has been going on since pre-partition." I was explicitly talking about the victimhood they portrayed pre-partition and continue to do so today. I'm not crucifying anyone but clowns who act as perpetrator and victim simultaneously. "I'm going throw stones!" "Oh no, I'm scared." You can't have those two sentences coming from the same person.
I don't have an issue with Muslims. I have an issue with violence.
Regarding pelting stones - it's on both sides. Look up the number of victims. There are casualties on both sides. Regardless, the ones actually indulging in such activities are minimal. What about the rest of the innocent people? Are you going to brush them under the same carpet?
Has their been casualties from ONLY-peaceful protests? In other words, did the police come in and tear up a peaceful protest without preemption? Yes, there are innocent victims who were there by chance or peacefully protesting, but there were reports that stone pelters brought bags filled with stones with them.
I'm not brushing up the same people. I legit added in parenthesis: (it's obvious, but I'm not talking about all muslims). Yes, it's disappointing what happened at that Delhi school, but the police reported that stones were being thrown from inside the campus. If they didn't throw stones, police wouldn't have acted. Was the reaction proportional? No, and I condone those actions; but I wonder how easily the school and students would have given up the perpetrators in the peace.
No religious institution pays tax. There is no religion based discrimination in taxing, whoever taught you this is lying to you. As per Indian Income Tax Act 1961, income of Charitable or religious trust is exempt from tax
Point conceded. I don't remember what I was thinking. It's definitely not tax. I'll look into it a bit more and reply if I find an answer.
Muslim appeasement - If it is the case then pls tell me why Muslims condition is worse then Dalits? 70+ years post independence and Indian Muslim are economically weakest, socially marginalised and politically underrepresented! What appeasement are you talking about? Muslims have very less representation in every sphere of progress, be it education, health, jobs, govt jobs - IAS, IPS, politics. Is this appeasement?
Source please. I don't refute your point, but I'd like a source please.
Also, is there a reason why they are underrepresented? Do they not have the same opportunities, etc.? Is there discriminatory behavior, etc.?
That's your view. But nothing in the article is false. You're welcome to show me any other international publication rebutting/contradicting this.
Not international media, but I'd love to see how fascist India has suppressed liberal democracy and believe in a dictatorship like the other fascist governments. Oh wait ...
Kashmir is still under clampdown even after more than 4.5 months after scrapping 370. And you're saying this is good move and Muslims ought to be thankful for it? I have no words.
Okay, this legit the third time. Read.
"MOdi has done a lot for minorities
//edit: oh, it looks like IF chopped off my ending ... aw man ... ///
I don't remember exactly what I wrote in regards to the rest of your comments, so ... I'll just sum it up to the best of my knowledge.
I'll start with the Kashmir issue. I never said Kashmir was a good move or Muslims ought to be thankful for it. Don't put words in my mouth. However, scrapping 370 is a good thing for Kashmir's future I think. The special laws Kashmir held were regressive and it's a step towards modernizing it. Could it, nay should it have been done better, yes. definitely yes, but this government isn't known for getting shit down properly.
There may be misinformation on both sides, but the heart of the protest is in the right place, which isn't the case of those who are toeing the govt line. There is literal discrimination that I have already pointed out and that's exactly what people are protesting.
You say there is misinformation and you say the heart is in the right place and there is literal discrimination which is what the people are protesting. What does that mean, you can't have all three coexist. If there is misinformation, you should seek to rectify it instead of falsely taking advantage of it. This goes with the RW as well. All this misinformation out there is stupid. There is no need to falsely allege certain things or edit videos to create unrest.
Tamils, Rohingyas, Baloches have been persecuted ... but they are being used as a puppet for this show. No one gives two shits about them ... it's just feeding point for you guys.
Propoaganda and lies are spread a lot more by the BJP and the RW and any one with the slightest idea of Indian politics will assert the same.
Lol ... do you (generally) even bother fact checking Congress and Gollu like you do with BJP/RW?
You haven't read anything to indicate that non-Muslims will be granted citizenship without documents? Here - forget reading, watch it come from the horse's mouth. (And why should Muslims or anyone lie about their religion? Are you even serious rn?)
Joke tha ji. Chill maar.
But here's the entire video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ReBPJWh7A&feature=youtu.be
Starts at 4:30ish.
Shah is talking in regards to CAA and NRC. CAA comes first, and then NRC. The documents he is referring is .. wait for it ... is the NRC documents. That won't be required for CAA, and it shouldn't because they are two separate programs.
That being said, I think it's fairly obvious that people seeking refuge under CAA will need to prove that they are being persecuted, etc.. We'll see how that goes though.
// Not as satisfied with my edited answers as I was with my original. Oh well .. chalega//
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