Was it Bajaj watching..... - Page 2

Originally posted by: Cute_Virgo

Prerna has her own business which she took for granted and is in jail? When did this happen🤔

PS: a lot of people back home must be living in sin since their marriage is not registered on paper😊

Please tell me that last para is a joke.

I mean spouse's name is mentioned in every official document once people are married- at their jobs, bank accounts, Voter cards, taxation, insurance, property papers & where not which is legally counted & is paper evidence. In jobs one has to even give taxation information of the gifts they received in marriage. The marriage happens in front of people who qualify to be the eye-witness of it which is actually needed for any marriage to be considered legal in real life- witnesses. The marriages happening outside are legal with all those evidences.

As for sin, it's a relative world. Homosexuality was sin once, it's not now. So refrain from throwing such words here & there.

Tell me who were the eye-witnesses of AnuPre marriage except for thenselves.

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

Please tell me that last para is a joke.

I mean spouse's name is mentioned in every official document once people are married- at their jobs, bank accounts, Voter cards, taxation, insurance, property papers & where not which is legally counted & is paper evidence. In jobs one has to even give taxation information of the gifts they received in marriage. The marriage happens in front of people who qualify to be the eye-witness of it which is actually needed for any marriage to be considered legal in real life- witnesses. The marriages happening outside are legal with all those evidences.

As for sin, it's a relative world. Homosexuality was sin once, it's not now. So refrain from throwing such words here & there.

Tell me who were the eye-witnesses of AnuPre marriage except for thenselves.

Pardon my lack of knowledge here. So all those papers are considered as proof of marriage in India and not a marriage certificate?

As for AnuPre, the pandit was there which doesn’t even matter anymore since the writers have nullified it😊

Originally posted by: Cute_Virgo

Pardon my lack of knowledge here. So all those papers are considered as proof of marriage in India and not a marriage certificate? Because where I live we need a marriage certificate as proof of marriage not other documents you mentioned.

As for AnuPre, the pandit was there which doesn’t even matter anymore since the writers have nullified it😊

AnuPre live in Kolkata. Last checked Kolkata was in India. India has IPC & civil laws of other counteies are meaningless here.

Different communities have different marriage laws here. Court marriages are different fron social marriagea here. Court marriages give the certificate, social marriages depends on witness. That's why we have 500 guests in marriages.

For legal evidence civil cases in India, one needs 2 well known witnesses from each side apart from Pandit who can testify & any one of these documents will do. If these turn out to be false, then await a fraud case. We have variety of govt documents that hold true as evidence of marriage. Dhaaga isn't one of them.

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

AnuPre live in Kolkata. Last checked Kolkata was in India. India has IPC & civil laws of othet counteies are meaningless here.

Different communities have different marriage laws here.

For legal evidence civil cases in India, one needs 2 well known witnesses from each side apart from Pandit who can testify & any one of these documents will do. If these turn out to be false, then await a fraud case. We have variety of govt documents that hold true as evidence of marriage. Dhaaga isn't one of them.

So basically you need 5 people as witness? How does any of that apply to the marriage shown in the show you know that happens at a time which I think comes once in 15 years as mentioned in the show? Also, as witnesses when people elope do they usually have five people with them for proof?

This is quite enlightening, thank you for this.

Originally posted by: Cute_Virgo

So basically you need 5 people as witness? How does any of that apply to the marriage shown in the show you know that happens at a time which I think comes once in 15 years as mentioned in the show? Also, as witnesses when people elope do they usually have five people with them for proof?

This is quite enlightening, thank you for this.

Witness evidence part is for fresh social marriages in case of fraud.

In 15 years, spouse's name will be in all documents of bank accounts, insurance, social ID & what not. Peoole have to give their details to census & all those govt agencies of PAN card, Voter ID, Aadhar & what not. Once this is mentioned in govt database, it stays there unless you update them with more information. Every legal & official document needs two other govt certified documents for proof.

Reality is different from these shows. In reality, people actually take taxation & other govt benefits on spouse's name.

In shows, they have to play ping pong with marriage, so of course they will do that stupidity. Real life is not like show show. Don't learn anything from it. Hindu, Sikh, Jain, Parsis, Buddhist marriages are governed with Hindu Marriage act which includes social & court marriages. People can always go to register marriages legally but that is often not felt necessary since marriages happen in known circles with video & audio evidence. Muslims have other civil laws where they have ceremony of signing Nikahnama which will serve as a legal document.

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

Witness evidence part is for fresh social marriages in case of fraud.

In 15 years, spouse's name will be in all documents of bank accounts, insurance, social ID & what not. Peoole have to give their details to census & all those govt agencies of PAN card, Voter ID, Aadhar & what not. Once this is mentioned in govt database, it stays there unless you update them with more information. Every legal & official document needs two other govt certified documents for proof.

Reality is different from these shows. In reality, people actually take taxation & other govt benefits on spouse's name.

In shows, they have to play ping pong with marriage, so of course they will do that stupidity. Real life is not like show show. Don't learn anything from it. Hindu, Sikh, Jain, Parsis, Buddhist marriages are governed with Hindu Marriage act which includes social & court marriages. People can always go to register marriages legally but that is often not felt necessary since marriages happen in known circles with video & audio evidence. Muslims have other civil laws where they have ceremony of signing Nikahnama which will serve as a legal document.

@bold so witnesses only play a role if you get caught and if not you can get away without witnesses?

Also, let’s say 100 years ago, were all these documents that you mentioned above, available and if not are those marriages considered illegal?

Yes i even felt the same it could be bajaj send someone to keep the eye on pre and sneha.

Originally posted by: Cute_Virgo

@bold so witnesses only play a role if you get caught and if not you can get away without witnesses?

Also, let’s say 100 years ago, were all these documents that you mentioned above, available and if not are those marriages considered illegal?

Every era has laws according to the time. In India, social marriages were considered legal evidence. It's social because there are hundreds of people involved. There used to be specific wedding gifts. And people didn't use to play ping pong with marriage in reality. That'd how it was all around the world.

Modern era, modern laws as per evolving times. 100 years ago is literally a century old with things evolving ever since.

As for witness, now you have photo-video proceedings of the actual marriage as well that stand valid in the court.

Why exactly are we talking about 20th century here & that too 100 years old?

Please, let show be the show & not take anything real from it. Ekta doesn't care for those legal proceedings in general. People don't play ping-pong of marriage even today.

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

Every era has laws according to the time. In India, social marriages were considered legal evidence. It's social because there are hundreds of people involved. There used to be specific wedding gifts. And people didn't use to play ping pong with marriage in reality. That'd how it was all around the world.

Modern era, modern laws as per evolving times. 100 years ago is literally a century old with things evolving ever since.

As for witness, now you have photo-video proceedings of the actual marriage as well that stand valid in the court.

Why exactly are we talking about 20th century here & that too 100 years old?

Please, let show be the show & not take anything real from it. Ekta doesn't care for those legal proceedings in general. People don't play ping-pong of marriage even today.

I’m not taking any lessons from shows least of all Ekta. I’m just trying to understand how marriages back then were considered legal due to lack of documents and marriages these days require a document as proof of their ‘legal’ marriage. Your posts have been really helpful. Thank you.

Originally posted by: Cute_Virgo

I’m not taking any lessons from shows least of all Ekta. I’m just trying to understand how marriages back then were considered legal due to lack of documents and marriages these days require a document as proof of their ‘legal’ marriage. Your posts have been really helpful. Thank you.

Social marriages was the norm of old societies. Societies were small, so relatives, neighbors testimony held true then including testimony of the person in concern. Some societies only considered the testimony from people involved. For ex. If a wife goes on to complain of cheating in old societies, then wife's words would be believed first & if investigstion is launched then society in which she lived or prominent person from those societies would be asked to testify for her & that would be considered valid. Normally, priests would keep a record of marriage they conducted which would hold true legally since they were revered by everyone. Then there could be some token to prove that marriage happened indeed. Frauds were less since small societies used to be little moralistic on their own.

Modern legal system came much later. And all this has become complex because of societies which have become complex on a whole.

There are still tribal societies who don'y have marriage system but their rules are based around families who live together with their children.