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Posted: 6 years ago
#61

Why is Prerna 1.0 being called an egoistic woman for loving another man and moving on from a spineless sissy who wasn't worth pining or fighting for? Do we still expect women to be doormats to spineless men who can marry 'n' number of women and still get away with all sorts of despicable things? 🤔

Prerna 1.0 wasn't an ideal "mahanta ki devi" and that's her USP.

Edited by Wistfulness - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I will still take a 'questionable' egoistic person over a doormat though. 😆

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

And can you plz explain me when did prerna "fight"? Exactly what did she do to get what she wanted ? And what did she want ? Except.for stopping that honeymoon which she had no business to meddle in , i didnt see her doing "anything" to get or prove anything. Na love na hate , her fans say that revenge was also a facade. Honeymoon was followed by ..hhmm catfights ? Komo ko jealous karna right? Hhmm holi? When she was sent to jail? And agdam bigdam boo , she got vikrant who bailed her out and gave her some job ? And again agdam bigdam and all proofs against komo and komo exposed and prerna is a heroine ? She didnt even have to use her brains to think that anurag might be under some pressure or therez nothing between komo and him ..she got everything on platter, that too we dont know from where ..and here we are..prerna fought for her love ? 😆

she fought thats true was it to prove her accidental marriage or for her childs right its yet to be reveled in show!!! But she is not the one who moves on and on. She cribs and sticks to her feelings, she can be called foolish but her revenge agaist anukomo was simple which komo could not win over, fight and revenge was childish though nor mohini or komo could not throw her out of thier life.

She wanted to torture anurag she succeded as well as per her till komolika was exposed.

Komolika was figthing to get authority of wifes status. Its because of prernas tom jerry fight.

Honeymoon stop drama was just a comedy scene. Her biggest step was to walk into basu house without any fear. She knew if she looses her battle against anurag her selfrespect dignity her family will be questioned. She walked into his life with motto that she will win her rights as his wife & she succeeded as well.

But everything came to her on platter yes right, it came to her easily she had nothing to loose. If it was some other girl she would have used her pregnancy card to send him to jail or would have aborted the child to move on by forgetting the dark past.

I still have more to crib but let prernas revealation takes place, let her outburst come out than we can discuss on her revenge battle.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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If moving to Basu house is considered as her step towards fight for herself, that's like saying I accidentally fell into a garbage can and lost my favourite toy there and because I want my toy back, I am going back to the garbage can to win my toy back. Sorry for the lame comparison but this is what exactly it looked like to me. 🤔 If the relationship is toxic and is hurting your self respect (refer to the countless public humiliation Anurag did of Prerna), MOVE ON gals. Just an awareness ! 😕

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: prerna4rishav

If moving to Basu house is considered as her step towards fight for herself, that's like saying I accidentally fell into a garbage can and lost my favourite toy there and because I want my toy back, I am going back to the garbage can to win my toy back. Sorry for the lame comparison but this is what exactly it looked like to me. 🤔 If the relationship is toxic and is hurting your self respect (refer to the countless public humiliation Anurag did of Prerna), MOVE ON gals. Just an awareness ! 😕

exactly my words, relationship looked toxic.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I agree with you that there’s no comparison between KZK1 and KZK2 because KZK2 is no where near to KZK1 and can’t even be compared. It’s like comparing earth and sky. Naagin seasons can be compared as they were close to one another in popularity and timing. But KZK1 literally had the whole India, Pakistan and other places crazy over it. It’s trp used to reach 20 and more I have heard. KZK2 can’t reach reach that level even if it tries to. Plus the actors in KZK2 are average to good at best which wasn’t the case for KZK1 and KZK1 wasn’t regressive and much more progressive than this. They can be only compared in terms of same character names and story, but when it comes to popularity, better show, better characters and actors, there’s literally no comparison. KZK2 is a good show on it’s own, but to reach KZK1 is impossible. So there’s no point trying to do so. Is best to enjoy KZK2 on its own and appreciate the actors work here as they should be appreciated for their work!

Also, KZK2 fans shouldn’t forget that by thrashing KZK1, they are just bashing their own KZK2 as only because of KZK1, this show even become possible. If it wasn’t for original KZK, there would have never been KZK nor parica. Parica would’ve been casted in some other show together if they were casted at all. So for now audience, let’s just enjoy KZK2 rather than trying to do the impossible to get to KZK1!

Edited by _Darling_ - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: prerna4rishav

Do not agree with the point that KZK1 wasn't great ! Well both 1 and 2 are shit, but 2 is of some epic level shit. KZK1 had lots of relatable things, Anurag-Prerna confession was one of the most simplest thing back then. They did not have to justify pre marital sex with some stupid secret dhaga marriage. Prerna wasn't devoid of self respect that she'd settle in Basu house demanding Biwi#1 status of Anurag. Anurag did work on pashchataap by secretly helping Prerna on professional front so that she can move on in her life. He did try to sincerely invest in his marriage with Komo. I keep reading that because he consummated and moved on in his life, AP love story wasn't deep. Really ? Are we living in 18th century now where monogamy is the only proof of love ? Well hello, grow up 😊 Physical relationship aint everything. I am not a fond of that kind of 'staying-in-a-marriage-but-loving-someone-else' thing either, but I don't disapprove of someone's honest effort in making the marriage work just because he is not there emotionally. Who knows if Komo was good enough, he won't move on emotionally too ? Love is not that one-dimensional always.


Anyways, not only storywise, the execution was also so nice. Using gun was not like a timepass stuff. There was no terrorist attack, unnecessary kidnappings, threatening, OTT drama in every 2 episodes. Mohini and Nivi's attitude towards Prerna matched with their perspective, it wasn't such blind OTT hatred where it's almost forcing to a point to make audience feel like it's Ram vs. Raavan thing.


So far what I have seen of KZK2, even the AP story is not built properly. I dont know what Prerna was fighting for, and why ? This is a meaningless crap love story so far. I dont know about the forum, but I bet if the story stays the same even after Bajaj's entry, KSG and Bajaj fans from previous show won't be happy either. So there you go, no fight, everyone can unite in bashing CVs for their sloppiest work. This remake is worse than RGV's Aag which was remake of Sholay ?

@ Bold - I agree with that. I keep reading that too. And I don’t blame some of them as they may be young or still holding to the unhealthy believe that physical touch is everything about love and that’s the only way for love her to be pure. I used to be like that where my fav couple can’t sleep with someone else. I still am many times as I can’t help it. But now I also understand that it’s not everything and a person can sleep with someone else yet still love someone else. And their purity and love doesn’t get lost just cos of that. Yes we may hate them for that, but that doesn’t mean love gets lost and doesn’t remain pure. And actually that’s how it’s in real life. That’s why KZK was much more realistic in this way. I was actually recently sadden finding out that Anurag slept with Komo But that’s how it happens in real life most of them time too. And Anurag always loved Prena till death despite everything!

Audience have regressed extremely now. That’s why they had to show Anupre getting married just for them to have sex. That’s why I doubt they would accept Prena marrying Bajaj too.

Edited by _Darling_ - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: mily_mathew

Kzk2 is one show, where apart from the leads and sometimes Moh niv, no one else has anything to add to the show or give anything to the show.


Veena is just written as per the writers convenience, she has no character arc, heck, compared to Anurag, sometimes Pre also is reduced to a sidekick.


Kasautii is a good entertainer, if you can oversee the plot inconsistencies, the logical loopholes, the totally inconsistent leads. I'm not gonna call it anything more than that.


Having watched tonnes of Hollywood shows on Netflix and Hotstar, I wanna say this, even when they r badly written, they have better writing than kasautii.

Since you bot up the concept that why r we stuck in dark ages despite Netflix, was it not dark ages when prerna had nothing better to do than come and fight for her dhaaga, making battles of who Anurag loves more, reducing her to an object pining for Anurag's attention, for love or hate, where was kasautii progressive there, was it not regressive that all Pre can think of is Anurag, when there are lot of other angles in addition to the love angle that the writers can explore for Pre. Do you see anything else in Pre apart from being a very hard to believe, intense lover of Anurag and a bahu of a household. Im not saying, being a bahu or lover is bad, but show other dimensions to her,whereas Anurag is shown as a good son, good friend, good human being,good buisnessman(although his busi ess acumen sucks in my opinion). Because that's the expectation from men, they don't have to be just a good son in law, they are allowed to have a personality and allowed to have opinions and ambitions.


Was it not regressive when they showed the same kumkum drama a tonne of times, love is a soulful connection, much deeper to be tied with physical symbols. It's a soul to soul bond, which I don't see in AnuPre as of now. They had a lot of opportunity with the kom track, instead they reduced kom to a joker, Pre to a senseless, aimless person who had nothing better to roam basu house, wearing good sarees and Anurag, oh he had the whole package, he was shown to be suffering, I saw him having a vacation with two women fighting for him, which was awesome for the ego that the guy has.

U know why kom and Pre was objectified so, because that's the expectation from women in India, even now, they r expected to be educated, but not ambitious, expected to be forgiving, but not self - respecting. Whatever shown in kasautii, especially in the case of females, is a 90 percent accurate representation of what Indian society wants from a woman,trust me, its working with the trp aunties, Pre is exactly what trp aunties want, an eye candy, a good forgiving lover and a good bahu who can suffer thousand insults but still show no pain or resentment.

And when I say self respect, it does not mean u don't love ur better half, u can have self respect and u can love someone with ur whole heart, its not mutually exclusive.


I recently watched a show salvation, it had a romantic track, the leads, though individually good looking, though don't look so perfect together as AnuPre, but their love was deep, intense and it did not feel wrong in any way, because they both poured their heart out to each other and called out each others bullshit, when the other was wrong, that was honest and genuinely deep, nothing was whitewashed. Yet they found a way to forgive each other. That's love,not the convenient one shown in kasautii.

As someone who is bought up in a Liberal household, I find it difficult to appreciate kasautii.

That's Indian TV for u.


Its regressive and formulaic.

Yes audience have become so regressive in recent times. That’s why I wonder sometimes how did Shows like KZK, KTH, KYPH, etc worked when the female leads were super mean to even abusive towards the male lead, had huge self respect and and kept getting married to other men rather than the male lead making the male lead suffer. At that time ppl may have thought Ekta brought regressive shows after the DD, but now those shows are looking extremely progressive and at least for women’s rights and much better than the the shows we get now! At least those female leads used to have huge self respect. Now the husband will abuse, marry someone and do so much more, but trp audience still want wife/fl to stay with him, always forgive and never move on. 😵

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Regarding anupre, yes I like this couple...if their love story messed up at any point of time, I'll definitely skip and then stop watching it... I already stopped watching it after moloy Rajesh accident and took a break to understand the context of the story in a better light...after watching all the remaining episodes in one go, I feel anurag is a good person indeed... He risked his life for many times... It's prerna's time to fight for her love... What he did is wrong... I'm not justifying it but his intentions are pure... He looks smart but not really smart...

I agree with one fact that Anu always wanted to protect pre and he wants her to be dependent on him but in komo track this thought of his had a major setback after realising that his pre can be angry but can't hate him...he really loves her.. but it takes time to come in agreement with the miscommunication between them... They both love each other so much... Pre wanted to live with him whom we are to decide for her... She started loving him when he saw her what everyone failed to see in naveen track...

When she understood he sold their love to komo, she was genuinely angry and after finding truth, she just acting cool like nothing happened... You know how difficult it was for an emotional person...

Mili...Between I don't know that anupre fans are mocking Bajaj... I think they call him scooter because of brand name... Its just for fun...but still if you don't like, just inform them... No issues... Our opinion differs... But when you're active in AT, I was a silent reader but your posts made me to comment there... I left a comment for you there... I don't remember exactly...

But my point is not that who is right or who is wrong... I just wanted to read some constructive criticism and different opinions without hurting anyone... Why people don't watch shows without taking actors name...why we need a fandom to support a character.. I need morality... I dunno leads name at all till last month or say I forgot... I didn't watch any shows last 3 years... This one have very poor direction and execution but still few scenes are really good for me to continue...

Please you can state your opinion but i want everyone to be happy after coming here... That's it.. our peace shouldn't be disturbed... I like your attitude.. I love self respect... everyone does but when we love someone more than us, no logic suits our composition... Brain works like that... I love this show because it's based on sacrifices... I admire people sacrificing their happiness for others in right sense... So it works for me...at the end of the day, I'm a kzk fan first before anupre.. kzk means sacrifices meant for anupre...

If I said anything unbelievable or hurtful things.. just ignore.. again I want everyone to enjoy instead of comparing this and that.. comparison bound to happen but if needed to continue watching this soap, for our own sanity, we should ignore few things.

Just remember...'ignorance is bliss'...

Edited by jey3ram - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Who mocked Sita-Ram? You shouldn't bring them in this discussion. No matter what your intentions were, parallels between Sita-Ram and this show's couple appeared mortifying and humiliating to me.

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