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Posted: 7 years ago

#51

Originally posted by: -Ishana-

Roshanaq could really learn a thing or two from our moms 😆

But yeah, I hope Harsh and Zo have a good bonding. All the Hooda boys seem to have a great rapport with her 😉

I know right! 😆

Well..since Anjana is a complete nutjob and she may not have a long future in the Hooda house, and if Harsh continues to impress like this then Roshna can even move on in life with him. Although it would be one heck of a complicated family 🤣

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alizia_malik

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Posted: 7 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: -Ishana-

Lol I feel like I keep bringing up personal stories but I grew up with a father like that. He's no longer a part of my life, but yes fathers like Waseem do exist. *I was never disowned but it was made clear that if my life decisions including whoever I chose to spend my life with wasn't up to his family's standard I would be disowned*.
So yeah, I agree with both of you, but a girl can hope, right? I mean especially in ITV where families are so close knit and forgiving. Waseem should thank his lucky stars that he was blessed with a daughter as thoughtful, caring, independent and virtuous as Zoya, but nooo throw her out because she didn't marry the man you fantasize aboyt

I am blessed with a very good set of parents but i have seen my friend going through something similar and it is really painful that you can't trust your own parents. People like Waseem does exist in reality and you must have heard about honor killing.Sometimes Pride comes way before than emotions or relations for few. I know parents gave you birth and they they raised you up but is that enough reason to let them roll over you all the time? Being respectful towards them and than being suppressed emotionally just to satisfy their bruised ego are two totally different things. But mostly Girls don't understand that and they live their life unsatisfied under parents pressure.

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Aditi Jain

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Posted: 7 years ago

#53

Originally posted by: -Ishana-

That's the difference between Siddiquis and Hoodas.
Everything Hoodas do is for their sons. Even as psycho as Anjana is, she said nothing was out of selfishness it was all out of love for Adi. (STILL EXTREMELY WRONG)
Everything Papa Hooda does is for Adi. I really liked that heart to heart with Arjun about Zoya and Aditya. He cares so much about understanding his sons.

Then there's Waseem and Roshanaq. Why is Roshanaq even a character in this show? The story would've been the same even if Zoya had no mother since her Ammi doesn't do a thing to help her. Roshanaq has no mouth of her own, what mother will stand as her daughter is thrown out of the home silently for declining a marriage Roshanaq herself knew was not good for her???

Exactly yaar...there will be no difference if she would have not any mother because she cannot take stand for her daughter in front of that egoistic waseem. As much as i like hooda's na that much i hate siddiques. Though nobody is sharif in hooda family but atleast there is reason why they act like that and audience can connect to them but siddiques, there is no reason why waseem has so much hatred for aditya, why he is so egoistic that he neglect her daughter happiness over his ego. No wonder why whole fandom hates waseem.

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Isha

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Posted: 7 years ago

#54

@Alizia

Tell me about it! I feel as girls we're under more pressure to "uphold the family honor" than anything else 😆 my cousin went through a similar situation where she broke her engagement after she realized she was in a bad relationship and her parents gave her hell for it! Luckily she lived separately but up to now, they still didn't let the matter slide until she was married.

Honor killings are an extreme case but truth is so many of us go through this on a daily basis, in my 20 years of life I've realized that parents will always find reasons to be upset with you. No matter how much you try to please them

Then again that's just me being pessimistic and mad @ Waseem 😆

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Posted: 7 years ago

#55

Originally posted by: aditi_jain

Exactly yaar...there will be no difference if she would have not any mother because she cannot take stand for her daughter in front of that egoistic waseem. As much as i like hooda's na that much i hate siddiques. Though nobody is sharif in hooda family but atleast there is reason why they act like that and audience can connect to them but siddiques, there is no reason why waseem has so much hatred for aditya, why he is so egoistic that he neglect her daughter happiness over his ego. No wonder why whole fandom hates waseem.

This may be far fetched but Aditya is everything Waseem isn't.
He likes Zoya as an independent woman. He likes Zoya's bubbly outgoing attitude. Have you seen that all of that seems to die down when Waseem is around? Maybe Waseem can't stand the idea of a man treating a girl like she's his equal. He doesn't seem to give Roshanaq that status as it is.
Maybe he knew Arshad would keep Zoya "under check" that's why he wanted Zoya to marry him so badly.
The kind of freedom and independence she would experience with Aditya is something his sexist mindset would not like

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alizia_malik

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Posted: 7 years ago

#56

Originally posted by: -Ishana-
@Alizia

Tell me about it! I feel as girls we're under more pressure to "uphold the family honor" than anything else 😆 my cousin went through a similar situation where she broke her engagement after she realized she was in a bad relationship and her parents gave her hell for it! Luckily she lived separately but up to now, they still didn't let the matter slide until she was married.

Honor killings are an extreme case but truth is so many of us go through this on a daily basis, in my 20 years of life I've realized that parents will always find reasons to be upset with you. No matter how much you try to please them

Then again that's just me being pessimistic and mad @ Waseem 😆

Well one thing is very very much clear.. even if you have very very understanding parents like mine still they really believe in institution of marriage and every parent somewhere thinks that marriage is the ultimate solution for all the problems in their daughter's life😆😆 This thing is just so integrated in parents core that it is really hard to change. Waseem did go by the same logic and even Anjana tried to do that too😆 Daughters are always expected to uphold the family honor. Its like son are excused of many mistakes but daughters can't even commit one.

But yeah personal life experience changes once perspective about lot of things. I think again it has to be balanced. All fights are not worth to indulge in but the ones that impact you the most is worth fighting for a win at any cost. Atlast it is your life and if you can't live it happily than what are we even doing just breathing. Killing and suicide and disowning are all extreme situations. And it is not just one way street. Children do disown their parents too. Reality is so harsh that no one secctor can be defined as right or wrong.

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manny136

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Posted: 7 years ago

#57

Originally posted by: -Ishana-

This may be far fetched but Aditya is everything Waseem isn't.
He likes Zoya as an independent woman. He likes Zoya's bubbly outgoing attitude. Have you seen that all of that seems to die down when Waseem is around? Maybe Waseem can't stand the idea of a man treating a girl like she's his equal. He doesn't seem to give Roshanaq that status as it is.
Maybe he knew Arshad would keep Zoya "under check" that's why he wanted Zoya to marry him so badly.
The kind of freedom and independence she would experience with Aditya is something his sexist mindset would not like

Adi and waseem are diff but i dont think waseem had an issue with zoyas independence maybe they way she went about it coz he likes to be in control of things and he is crazy stubborn which zoya is as well😆😆

Remember the day he went to zoyas office to take her for lunch he was so proud of her and also her award day but the moment hoodas or adi get mentioned he freaks out. As for rosh and him he does dominate the relationship but he is very respectful towards her most of the time unlike with zoya who he puts down especially now coz of anything connected to adi. Adi isnt yash who even though he disliked he could dominate they guy had to go borrow money from him while adi tried to impress him but when the time came to be honest adi stood tall and told him his feelings not afraid of the consequences.

As for lambu he didnt seem like a controlling freak and many times talked in favor of zoya over waseem he was harmless at best😆😆

I think waseem is more off an egotistical control freak who wants things his way only and zoya though trying to be a good daughter cannot do that even though she tried really hard to please him.

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Jareth

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Posted: 7 years ago

#58

Originally posted by: -Ishana-

This may be far fetched but Aditya is everything Waseem isn't.
He likes Zoya as an independent woman. He likes Zoya's bubbly outgoing attitude. Have you seen that all of that seems to die down when Waseem is around? Maybe Waseem can't stand the idea of a man treating a girl like she's his equal. He doesn't seem to give Roshanaq that status as it is.
Maybe he knew Arshad would keep Zoya "under check" that's why he wanted Zoya to marry him so badly.
The kind of freedom and independence she would experience with Aditya is something his sexist mindset would not like

I wouldn't call waseem sexist. I feel he wants to control the lives of everyone in his family. He wants to dictate them because in his mind (and I've said this before in another post) "father knows best."

And that aspect of his personality would have been there even if he had a son. Did he not try to control yash? He wants everyone under his thumb.
If he was sexist then his daughters would not be working women. He's actually proud of the fact that zoya is a working woman and that too a successful woman. Sexist is the wrong word here. He is a control freak. He is prejudiced. He has set ideas and he does not change them. If he believes Arshad is best for zoya then that is that. There must be no disputing it. He has the final authority because he believes that he is the best judge of what is right for his family.
Anjana is the same. She killed pooja because she wasn't right for aditya once she started cheating on him. She hates zoya because zoya is not the bahu she believes aditya needs. She ignores aditya's happiness because in her mind she knows best

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Isha

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Posted: 7 years ago

#59

^ I have to disagree here.
Just because he's proud of her career doesn't deny the fact that he is still sexist (in my opinion). The women in his family are not allowed to speak up and marriage is still viewed as an end all for them.
But that's just my thoughts... 😊

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Jareth

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Posted: 7 years ago

#60

Originally posted by: alizia_malik

Yeah hateful would be a wrong word 😆 Aditya was blamed too but he gave her reasons to fight too in the end of that suicide attempt too. Believe me when i say i have tried to understand Waseem with unbiased lens.Never hated him before even if didn't like him much but this track brought the worst out of him.He is her father.. of course he should try to help her and be happy but at what cost?? He just doesn't want to hear anyone above him. Have you seen any women of the house standing side by side with him not even his wife? He just doesn't let anyone speak to their heart content and overpowers them completely. He might had 3-4 dialogues which were good but i can't understand this disowning act of his? He feel he had failed Zoya earlier as per those dialogues he said before Aditya confession but isn't he failing her again?? But now all he will see is that Zoya failed him? It has always been about his ego.. his achievements..his failures.. his reputation.. his hatred? Shouldn't he atleast try to consider about others too for a change??

I suppose we'll have to watch the episode to known precisely what leads up to him disowning his daughter.

I agree with you that his ego is clouding his vision. I've said so myself in another post. In that post I stated that while waseem cares for his kids, he does so in a very sadistic way. Some part of him is satisfied that yash was the wrong decision because he now has the right arsenal to use against zoya and make her surrender to his decision making. He feels his daughter's tears but he is also the kind of father who is insensitive enough to say I told you so repeatedly

He should do a lot of things and understand a lot of things but he doesn't yet. Maybe he will have some character building and maybe aditya might be the person to bridge the gap created, something that yash could never do. Perhaps waseem might be redeemed

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