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Posted: 8 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: mainkyanaamdoon



Precisely ! I think they underestimate the audience. times are changing. Most of the older generation themselves are well read . Younger generation are too. dont take their intelligence for granted.
Stick to genre.or two. magic , science fiction, fantasy , mystery or romance. Dont mish mash and please - continuity , make some sense and try to connect with the audience!!



I think the show's lack of planning and coherence is evident in the mish mash of everything. It's like you can't put your finger on a single thing and say this department is quite good. From the technical to the script, everything feels so botched up. Connect needs a consistent rhythm to form. Over here, the makers themselves are busy experimenting everyday which reeks of uncertainty and lack of confidence in a certain script.

You'd expect someone who's been working for years and is an established PH in the industry to not make the kind of errors newbies do but this is more farfetched than that.

And bang on about audiences not being passive anymore. At the least your audience demands quality and consistency. I think they also need to have a new writer for the show. How can a single writer handle two shows. Equivalent of 3 with the timings. The mismatch and the show's hardly inclining quality speaks of it. Though I don't know if the connect will build for me because right now I keep struggling with wanting to knock some sense in chandini or just knock her on the head.😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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"munda borderline creep hai "😆 haha they tone down his creepiness by rabba ve!!

Th illogicality of that wants to make me bang my head somewhere.😆 replace barun with someone who looks like a prison escape and not so rabba ve anymore. At least with Advay you get him. Why on Earth is Chandini all star-eyed about him instead of having him thrown out of her house? O_o
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: FleetingWishes

.Th illogicality of that wants to make me bang my head somewhere.😆 replace barun with someone who looks like a prison escape and not so rabba ve anymore. At least with Advay you get him. Why on Earth is Chandini all star-eyed about him instead of having him thrown out of her house? O_o



Or they should name this Bheja Fry the series .. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mainkyanaamdoon



Or they should name this Bheja Fry the series .. 😆

PLUS 1000

only if bheja bache post watching. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.

I'm a sucker for antiheroes and revenge dramas so when this show started I thought I'd give it a chance. Also because while I wasn't a fan or viewer of the first season, I did see a couple of episodes and thought Barun's strength as an actor lay in grey shades and angst. So initially I was hoping for if not great something pleasant.

Everyone has already talked about all the disconnect with the horrible script glitches and technical side and other aspects and quite in detail so I think I'm going to talk about another major issue I've been having and that's not letting me connect at all with the female lead.

To connect with any character we must empathize with them and empathy means to put ourselves in their places and know we'd do the exact same thing. Which is why I don't understand Chandini at all.
She's a girl with a traumatic past. She's scarred by what has happened. She has constant anxiety attacks and is unable to have normal interactions with males (all gauged from first two weeks).

How can a girl like that have any romantic inclination toward Advay? Just how? A guy comes out of nowhere and threatens you, and mauls you, invades your physical space and talks to you in cryptic language where he blames you, and shows his hatred, and calls you names and a liar and what not. Hee constantly acts passive-aggressive toward you. He promises you your family won't get any close to the 'khazaana' and then enters your house and tells you he wants to marry you. At this point you should already be screaming bloody murder and thinking he needs mental treatment because WHO BEHAVES LIKE THAT? Who in their normal mind? For Chandini she shouldn't even be seeking him out and bantering with him.

fine so it's still okay but yesterday's episode made me go a big W*F. I mean put yourself there. so just because a guy wants to meet you, he drugs your sisters, enters your room and steps over your bed and then touches you. Replace Barun with Om prakash or anyone else who looks like Ted bunty 200 pounds overweight. Not hot anymore is it? This is downright creepy behavior and if i were in her place I'd be screaming bloody murder and questioning his mental balanc. Literally because this is abnormal behavior. And we're not talking about Advay's pov atm. We're talking about Chandini's pov. And doubly so for Chandini who suffers from a trauma and anxiety.

Instead all of this woos her quite astonishingly and she's lost in him and cue the romantic bgm which plays all the time anyway.😆 She seeks him out all the time, banters with him and pretty much lets him have his say and does all of this so normally like kya hua agar munda borderline creep hai toh.

Story always comes first for me. But if it's so inconsistent at least the characters need to make some sense. for you to buy it. Apparently hotness trumps logic.




👏, this exactly. i honestly have been trying to reconcile this weird feeling in me about chandni and you've done a wonderful job putting it in words. the reason im feeling this way is because i literally would not do what chandni is doing, i put myself in her shoes and i would do the complete opposite of how she is reacting and responding to advay. im just sitting here thinking especially now she is hella sassy, why are you acting like that, why are you letting him be like that with you, why are you letting him touch you like that, why are you getting lost in him, why are you becoming weirdly comfortable with him. why is it suddenly her trauma basically disappeared, why have you forgotten half of the crazy things his said and done, i mean sending those market people and then calling you to call them of if you did what he wanted, which would make you more then a little suspicious, like way more. i mean this random dude showed up out of now where, harassed you, buys your house and now wants to marry you and the worst part is we dont get her pov, we didnt at the start and we still dont much now, which reminded of older eps when he showed up and i was expecting chandni to question his presence, who is he etc but nope meghna ended up filling in chandni. i liked her when she said dont touch me in the older eps. your right, i cant help but think what if he wasnt as hot as he is, would chandni still be kind of lost in him and be as affected by him, i would have liked that consistency that despite looks she would still be creeped out and be extremely resistant to him wether his was hottie mchottie or some shmuck who people wouldnt look at twice. it annoys me doubly because im not able to properly connect to her and that fact that she does have this apparent anxiety due to a guy kidnapping her and torturing her, also how long as she known him, 3 weeks.

@bold, story and consistency makes or break it for me, i cant even stay for even for my beloved of actors.
Edited by bila_a - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#66
I can start watching like a dutiful trp booster if they call out indrani's true identity. It's obvious she's a red priestess;
Doesn't age
Got someone burned at stakes
Has eyes for the prince that was promised

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: 18shabbo

I can start watching like a dutiful trp booster if they call out indrani's true identity. It's obvious she's a red priestess;

Doesn't age
Got someone burned at stakes
Has eyes for the prince that was promised


😆 we have all caught the fever.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: bila_a


👏, this exactly. i honestly have been trying to reconcile this weird feeling in me about chandni and you've done a wonderful job putting it in words. the reason im feeling this way is because i literally would not do what chandni is doing, i put myself in her shoes and i would do the complete opposite of how she is reacting and responding to advay. im just sitting here thinking especially now she is hella sassy, why are you acting like that, why are you letting him be like that with you, why are you letting him touch you like that, why are you getting lost in him, why are you becoming weirdly comfortable with him. why is it suddenly her trauma basically disappeared, why have you forgotten half of the crazy things his said and done, i mean sending those market people and then calling you to call them of if you did what he wanted, which would make you more then a little suspicious, like way more. i mean this random dude showed up out of now where, harassed you, buys your house and now wants to marry you and the worst part is we dont get her pov, we didnt at the start and we still dont much now, which reminded of older eps when he showed up and i was expecting chandni to question his presence, who is he etc but nope meghna ended up filling in chandni. i liked her when she said dont touch me in the older eps. your right, i cant help but think what if he wasnt as hot as he is, would chandni still be kind of lost in him and be as affected by him, i would have liked that consistency that despite looks she would still be creeped out and be extremely resistant to him wether his was hottie mchottie or some shmuck who people wouldnt look at twice. it annoys me doubly because im not able to properly connect to her and that fact that she does have this apparent anxiety due to a guy kidnapping her and torturing her, also how long as she known him, 3 weeks.

@bold, story and consistency makes or break it for me, i cant even stay for even for my beloved of actors.

DITTO TO EVERYTHIG YOU SAID! It's petrifying to think that we live in a society where people ca get away with so many things just because they lucked out in the gene pool. Imagine a creepy looking pot belied guy wit receding hairline in Barun's place and not only is it not hot anymore, it's beyond creepy. In fact in Ishqbaaz there was a guy who was obsessed with the fl who did things like breaking into her house, holding her hand withour permission and getting creepily into her space and asking her to marry him and that was accompanied by creepy music so people were all like how disgusting and the fl herself was creeped out. But here not only is chandini so comfortable in his presence, she gets the dhak dhak when he's near and gets lost in him and seeks him out and banters with him so normally. She should be repulsed by him. She should strongly tell him to leave her alone. She should take some action to keep him away or inform someone about his stupidities. And oh yeah the part where he blackmailed her! i forgot about that part and she obviously knows or doubts him for the khazana thing. Nothing about him is normal. His behavior with her has been downright inconsistent ranging from aggresive and creepy to cryptic and manipulative. How can she be so normal around him? How can she not feel anxcious, scared, repulsed, angry with him? how can she start falling in love right now? She just doesn't make any sense.

like when she should've told him off or thrown him out of her room or gotten out she was charmed and let him take her in his arms like whattt.😆 Her character is the biggest W*F in the show for me and how would i connect to her or feel the chemistry if i can't even understand her or support her logics? She should've been clearly appalled and against him and trying to stay away and Advay should've been his ruthless self and then the conflict would've been apparent and atleast both the characters would've consistent to themselves. Most of their scenes nowadays are just random advay cornering her and rabba ves while chandini goes moon eyed.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I think Advay does know of her traumatic past.. that might be my assumption tho.. in the first few episodes i thought so.. I am not buying their story bc of that... it seems messed up..gul seems confused on how she wants to tell this story... i'm tired of chandni constantly thinking of her friend when she is around advay..it makes no sense.. advay comes across as such a creep hitting on her, proposing to her within a few days of meeting.. the cliched PP character they brought in was ridiculous as well... i have yet to watch yesterday and today's episode.. there is a lot i am not going to agree with...as others have mentioned they need to fix the screenplay.. its hard to discuss this show or watch it when the screenplay is so messed up, and the characters behave so strangely..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.

DITTO TO EVERYTHIG YOU SAID! It's petrifying to think that we live in a society where people ca get away with so many things just because they lucked out in the gene pool. Imagine a creepy looking pot belied guy wit receding hairline in Barun's place and not only is it not hot anymore, it's beyond creepy. In fact in Ishqbaaz there was a guy who was obsessed with the fl who did things like breaking into her house, holding her hand withour permission and getting creepily into her space and asking her to marry him and that was accompanied by creepy music so people were all like how disgusting and the fl herself was creeped out. But here not only is chandini so comfortable in his presence, she gets the dhak dhak when he's near and gets lost in him and seeks him out and banters with him so normally. She should be repulsed by him. She should strongly tell him to leave her alone. She should take some action to keep him away or inform someone about his stupidities. And oh yeah the part where he blackmailed her! i forgot about that part and she obviously knows or doubts him for the khazana thing. Nothing about him is normal. His behavior with her has been downright inconsistent ranging from aggresive and creepy to cryptic and manipulative. How can she be so normal around him? How can she not feel anxcious, scared, repulsed, angry with him? how can she start falling in love right now? She just doesn't make any sense.

like when she should've told him off or thrown him out of her room or gotten out she was charmed and let him take her in his arms like whattt.😆 Her character is the biggest W*F in the show for me and how would i connect to her or feel the chemistry if i can't even understand her or support her logics? She should've been clearly appalled and against him and trying to stay away and Advay should've been his ruthless self and then the conflict would've been apparent and atleast both the characters would've consistent to themselves. Most of their scenes nowadays are just random advay cornering her and rabba ves while chandini goes moon eyed.


it truly boggled my mind as to why she nodded yes to him in her bedroom, i was just like no way, no freaking way, ??? 😆 i think i would be more concerned as to why my sisters arent waking up. that whole thing was very weird, she was totally lost in a guy who comes into her room climbs onto her bed, corners her and to whom she basically gave sass just recently. and in todays ep she was showing him how to cook or something. like he does things, she gives him a little sass and next minute she seems be normal and bantering with him, like you i am having a difficult time connecting with her. im like girl get a grip.

the thing is i love love stories, i love watching the journey and it kills me when its not being executed well and when everything is inconsistent, good love story needs consistency, it needs gradual development of characters and subtlety, i mean a good example of a revenge love story is secret love a korean drama, boy is that show crazy but oh so good in its characterisation and execution + the romance/chemistry is fire(you should totally check it out if your looking for an intense anti hero revenge love story), and ipk3 could totally be like that given it had a good concept.like you said if they were consistent to themselves i believe we may have gotten a better story and more believable romance/interactions happening that would give more depth and intensity to the show, even advay's ruthlessness seems to have been dulled a little. it feels like the writers/directors took the easy approach to this story which is fake romance until she falls in love and then marry and destroy her. like i said in another post, i dont think they know how to handle a story like this and im dreading it if they go in this direction.

@bold i swear, they have become too reliant on the romantic scenes and forgotten to build the world around them. throwing those scenes at me doesnt work cause despite me acknowledging that barun/shivani have good chemistry, you cant give me these romantic scenes in a vaccum without proper context and strong build up, im not just gonna lap it up just cause these two have chemistry and are good looking people, if anything it ruins it for me, im all about the wait, tease, slow burn i live for the moment where im literally screaming at them to kiss cause of all that UST where a simple look even if it isnt in a romantic situation or with romantic bgm kills me and makes be blush. these types of scene are satisfying because of previous leg work.
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