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Posted: 9 years ago
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I have no doubt Shivvay will protect and shield her. That is a given right now with the character and the stage that they are at in their marriage. Their relationship could not be stronger right now and that is what will help me ride this tsunami called Daksh in their lives. Shivvay is not the weak one, Annika doing what she is doing is making him seem weak. She needs to let Shivvay do his job and step back. That is why I am so upset with the CV's


I dunno if I agree with Shivaay not being made/made to look weak. May be it's the fact that they're takkar ke that Shivaay agreed to what anika did. It might be my subjective expectation from the character - but I was expecting him to take much more of a stand.

Rest - I absolutely agree with.😊Anika's character toh they've butchered to another level only, today.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Om's one dialogue in the end was enough for the family to realise what has just happened and what is going to happen.

"Khushiyan ager izzat bech k milnay lagey tou samajh leina bohat mehengi hogayin hai".


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Posted: 9 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7


Yes xavi, exactly. Table has turned on Shivaay.

Today someone is forcing his sister to marry him under duress giving her no choice, with the purpose of torturing her, disrespecting her.

Why is always upon Shivaay's head? Why are the parents so dumb??



History repeating itself!!! What can I say!!! But history repeating in a twisted way!
Atleast in Shivaay and Annika's case, they cared and respect each other deep down somewhere. But in Prinku and Ranveer's case... nothing said is much better!!!

On a side note, when I feel someone harassing me, I would definitely approach my siblings for help, then my parents... These Oberois.. why are they full of themselves! Madad maangne se insaan chotta nahin ho jata, idiots!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Risha--

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Hey Anisa. Since I haven't watched the episode and have no intention to, this post is based on WUs read from 2, 3 sources 😊

I hesitate to ask Risha, but I think you should watch the episode. I'm not saying it will make you less angry, IT IS disgusting, but not as black and white as you might think.

Shivaay was going to apologize on Annika's behalf (he did ask her to apologize, but she refused, and he let the matter go), but Annika didn't want him to, on account of her pride.

I wouldn't want my husband to apologize on my behalf to a crazy rude regressive aunt because my pride has to be protected. There are times when things get hairy and needs to be smoothed out with diplomacy. Fighting isn't the only way out of an awful situation.

Okay, Annika apologized to Kameeni ( i will insist on using this spelling, or I will use KK instead😡) humbly by touching her feet. She pulled a Shivaay move on them, and they were placated for a while. Even ACP vouched for it, and things were ok, for a millisecond.

Then the sinister Daksh walks in, and demands an apology too. That really set Shivaay off. Because there was no reasoning with an insane man. He rightly thought, he was not going to give his sister to this family.

but ACP has played his cards well. Sent a video blackmailing Prinku, who is forced to agree to marriage to save her brother Shivaay. Just like Annika was, when Shivaay kidnapped Sahil to the same effect.

We knew this was coming.

I agree , making Annika touch Daksh's feet was unnecessary. Quite an awful sight. Annika was terrified at the sight of him. Her trauma is going to be relived in tonight's episode. The trauma of an abused woman is real and painful, the memory is etched it her mind like a scar. I am more afraid of tonight's episode.

There are few ways to tell a story.

Either tell it in a way where a problem is shown and the characters positively and confidently deal with it to a satisfying resolution.

Show a story where everything goes wrong, because it is more visually shocking to see all the awful unlikely things happen to beloved characters, and decide for yourself how you would have handled it if it happened to you. This takes viewer maturity. (British TV shows have a lot of these type plots)

This is all done for SHOCK VALUE. As far as this goes, I say the makers have succeeded, as the forum is on fire with shocked disgusted loyal viewers.

Take a bunch of lovely actors, make them lovable on screen, and then make them do things we cannot swallow, and see us stuck ...


I really don't know where to begin. I dunno if you read my post on the HS thread but that one scene they've shown was too much for me to digest. I've worked too closely with victims of assault to just let this one go for the sake of creative license. It's personal.

I'll name the positives first. I'm glad Shivaay is standing up for Anika. In no way has he done enough. Because at the end of it all, he did succumb to what Anika's victimized mind thought was the best way out. Om's reaction was good. He looked the most disgusted. Shivaay looks disgusted, too but he's the great SSO. He needs to do more to protect his wife.

I really don't get the desperation for this rishta. I don't get this concept of bending over backwards to please the groom's family and these are the Oberois we're talking about. The same people who rejected an earlier, better rishta for Prinku based on illegitimacy. So I don't get why they're desperate to marry her off in a family with a certified creep. It doesn't help that Karan (Daksh) is so damn good at his job.

Anika is acting like a victim - which is so unlike Anika. That's all I wanna say on this matter.

I still love ShivIka - I think I will always. I'm helpless there. But I hope progress ke naam pe they don't slaughter them. Today, my anger is at the CVs. Not our beloved couple.

I wish I had the strength to make a longer post but this episode has drained all the energy and the enthusiasm out of me. All I can say is; they're treading down a very dark, dangerous and sensitive path of women facing their assaulters after the assault has taken place. They need to handle this track like they're waking on egg shells. I know plenty of women who have been assaulted (I'm sure we all do) and it's the sawaal of their izzats as much as Anika's. I will feel personally offended if they include more scenes like they did today.

I'll also be skipping most epis and keeping my posts here on a minimum. I love HS thread so will follow that. I'll post on your thread always because enjoy your perspective 😊

I'm sorry if I sound melodramatic. But, today, my core is heavy, sad and disturbed.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sam16

All I want to say is WHAT THE WHUCK 🤢

Annika touching daksh's feet
lIKE REALLY
Oh give us some break from all this.
All we wanted was some positive light hearted happy episode
Is this was too much to ask
Well I am not able to see episodes without skipping
After seeing I can't digest it what I've seen


I hope somewhere in this track, Annika emerges from her traumatized state and fights Daksh like a wildcat. It's a journey for Annika as a character too, she is a single woman, being preyed by a psychopath, any girl would be frightened like her.

I do want to see Shivaay protect her, but I'd rather see her fight him back herself.

Positivity has gone for a toss for a bit, this was coming as evidenced from last week. The reason they didn't resolve anything last week after Tia left, because it is connected to this one.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Michmichi

If and only they didn't show that touching feet thing , the episode would've been nice despite Daksh being present 😭


It was a graphic sight, for sure.

That stalker track ,was not about Shivaay only. It was Annika's track. How a single independent working woman has to deal with monsters in the society who have no sense of proper behaviour and respect for a fellow human. Be it a good looking monster Shivaay, or the evil looking Daksh. It's her struggle.

I hope they show her finding her own strength and fight back. Because the men in our lives often are as complacent as the ones in Annika's. I speak from personal experience. I feel Annika's weakness, as most women have that phase in their lives, where they learn their strength and steel up their spine.Then learn the guts to say, I've had enough of this sh*t.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: aprilsunrise


Will I be deemed a certified paagal too if I say that I liked the episode. Leave aside the michmichi feelz that I had when Daksh entered. Some very positives to add from my side.

Of course not! People react differently to things. The makers were out to draw blood for a extreme reaction in their viewers, and the got it. Rather than imagining them upset, i dare say they had wanted this to happen.

1. Shivika talk like husband and wife. They have started discussing things, problems and have started sharing their concerns.
Yes, for a start, Shivaay explained himself and let her explain hers too. Talking to a woman helps her understand your state of mind better, then she can decide how she wants to handle it.

2. Shivaay's trust in Anika is rock solid. He believes that she did no wrong even before she explained.
Yes, she refused to say sorry, and he let it go, even understood why. But someone had to say sorry, so he decided to do it himself.

3. He accepting her relatives (Sahil) and expecting her to accept his (his... bhabhi ban ke socho)
This was very telling for me. But he still has more proving to do...

4. Shivaay 'the husband' on full alert mode and not wanting his wife to apologize (rishta my foot)
Apologize to her tormentor, who almost drowned her to death? What was shocking is that no one else seemed to react to the horrible things Annika went through with Daksh. Do people stalk, kidnap and drown their unrequited loves everyday, in Khandaani land??😡

5. Anika realizing and reminding Shivaay that he is thinking like her 'Pati' and stopping mid sentence and looking away where as Shivaay looking at her and understanding as well as accepting her unsaid sentence.
She also has troubles saying he was her husband. Telling him to stop putting her first right then, because this is not the time for it. She took his advise, "saying sorry doesn't make the sky fall on your head. Just say it and smooth it over, and problems get resolved instead of propagating itself."

This is a matter of personal opinion, some just cannot stomach this , and puke at the thought of it. Some just do it, because it isn't such a big deal to them. One side can't tell the other who is right or wrong, its a matter of perception.

6.Hit and run blackmail by Ranveer and not Daksh...just thank GOD for that. And the person getting blackmailed is Prinku and not Anika. (feel sorry for Prinku) but I have to protect my heart. It would be worse if Anika would have been blackmailed.
7. Prinku Is Not pregnant.
8. Shivaay and OmRu as one team. And Shivaay the bigger psycho vowing to protect his wife from the lesser psycho.

This track Prima face does not look that scary as we all were dreading. I guess Shivaay will accept Anika as his wife publically at the end of this track.

Don't forget. Earlier, Annika almost leaves the mansion as Daksh's fiancee, and Shivaay was shattered. Expect a repeat of this one again. Daksh is out for blood. Making her touch his feet was evidence of that.

Edited by AnnzSageflower7 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Anisa u really think that the cvs will show Anika leaving with daksh again? That will be another low by the cvs 🤢 - sorry can't justify that at all
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7


What the heck did I just watch?

Ok before I get full on disgusted.. lemme get through the tiny bit of positive first.

Shivaay introduced Annika to what it is like to be part of a bigger family. She has been a lone ranger, fighting for her brother single handedly alone, she didn't have to juggle many relationships.

Today Shivaay told her, see the bigger picture.

"You reacted as Sahil's sister. But you did not react as Prinku's Bhabhi, but my sister broke off with her beau because her bhabhi was insulted..🤢 (Dey Shivaay, you need to get your brain checked da )




Ann are u from TN 😛
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: NYCForever


Anisa u really think that the cvs will show Anika leaving with daksh again? That will be another low by the cvs 🤢 - sorry can't justify that at all


Of course not !

But they might show Daksh blackmailing her also, putting her in a situation much like the time during Shivaay's first Sangeet. Where he felt like he had lost her.

I think Daksh is bad news. He is going to turn that dagger in deep between them.

I doubt he will succeed, but the lack of communication between the Oberois is the main issue. If they just shared their concerns with each other, all this would be sorted instantly! It's so frustrating to watch.

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