IPKKND Nostalgia:Daily Dose NOTE - Page 34

Originally posted by: JalebiJane

Anu, Pari---I agree with all that you say above and add to the discussion these thoughts:

1. Purity is a decided attraction; especially to the impure. A reflection from Austen's -Mansfied Park-. (Exact quote to follow)

2. Khushi does not trigger Shyam's insecurity. To be the middle-class husband of a woman born to wealth and pedigree would have its shortcomings and pressures. The Raizadas never do this, but their social circle would certainly drop hints. We all know how casually cruel some of the privileged class can be. They eat their own young. Khushi and Shyam do not have this issue. Shyam (if he WAS unmarried) is actually an excellent match for either of the Gupta girls; Buaji is not wrong.

3. Ah! Buaji! (THIS relates to your point, Pari) Buaji encourages Shyam. And I feel that Shyam who is a pleaser, falls into love with Khushi because he is encouraged. And then later it becomes about ego, possessiveness and madness. (Yes, the pathological tendencies had to be there at some level---but they were perhaps triggered when Khushi spurned him.)

4. Anjali is a lovely woman. I adore her. And I certainly do not think her responsible for this triangle. But she is a cool beauty. There is no fire and play in her, as there is in Khushi. I'm not suggesting that she is not sexual, but she is very proper and worshipful. Ah! And I suspect she would worship Shyam in the way she worships the Divine---with reverance and distance. We already know that she is "grateful" for Shyam's love because of her disability. This could inspire one sort of love+devotion in a man, but it might distance him and cause him to seek out something more earthy and real in a partner. (Contrast with Khushi's relationship with Devi Maiyya---it is very intimate, playful, cheeky at times.)

5. In my fan-fic, I always make Shyam's primary motive mercenary, and secondary motive carnal. I have to make it up because tv-IPKKND didn't give us Shyam's motive. They told us that Shyam wanted the Raizadas to believe that Khushi seduced him. A femme fatale. EVEN if the Raizadas believed that---HE knew it was not so. So what was going in HIS mind? I think you have put your finger on it, Anu, when you speak of Shyam committing "relationship suicide." For what else can we call it when a sensible pragmatic man is ready to leave everything he has for a woman who can give him nothing. "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." We have to remember that Shyam was not some down-trodden mistreated maligned man at Shantivan---he was respected, celebrated, venerated. We are told he is, the one man who could influence Arnav. I am not romantic enough to believe that he would give that all up because he aspired for a life in Janakpuri with KKG. I don't think HE was that romantic. He got caught up in some madness of his own making. An unguarded urge gone too far. The allure of a fresh conquest. It spiralled. It is not very satisfying to us but I think we have no choice but to accept that Shyam's motive is as pedestrian as any bored married man whose eye wanders and then never returns. A true tragedy because it is really that common and uninspired.

Jj

Originally posted by: JalebiJane

Thank you for your comment.

Interesting that you view this is the night they became a couple...

What I see is that Arnav shifted in his view of who she is. He gained some respect for her and regret for what she has endured at his hands.

Cant thank you enough for actually explaining how the epi belonged to both the leads.

What a description of the episode. But yes the episode itself was so magical and so well written and well ditected. Its hatsoff to the creative of the show who had made such an epic episode. These episodes used to show how the creatoves lived the characters, the way they were written. No doubt they are as fresh as they were then and they will be for a very long time. I will go further even to say that they will be fresh for atleast this generation. Or should I say evergreen.

I really enjoyed khushi's outburst..the dialogues were so on point..'your personal life is personal but I don't even have a life?!'..."your family shouldn't be bothered but what about my family and my sister who must have cried so much".."an individual has more to them than just their status,a girl of low status is showing the courage to tell you that not only your anger but your entire life is laid on wrong foundation"

Originally posted by: MoonBow.

Cant thank you enough for actually explaining how the epi belonged to both the leads.

Even though many loved her outburst, i sure did but the hero walking out without waiting a sec and the rush and the panic it all created.. I genuinely loved it so much!

Good job!! 🤗

Originally posted by: i_yatharthk

What a description of the episode. But yes the episode itself was so magical and so well written and well ditected. Its hatsoff to the creative of the show who had made such an epic episode. These episodes used to show how the creatoves lived the characters, the way they were written. No doubt they are as fresh as they were then and they will be for a very long time. I will go further even to say that they will be fresh for atleast this generation. Or should I say evergreen.

Originally posted by: JaiJaiIraniMata

I really enjoyed khushi's outburst..the dialogues were so on point..'your personal life is personal but I don't even have a life?!'..."your family shouldn't be bothered but what about my family and my sister who must have cried so much".."an individual has more to them than just their status,a girl of low status is showing the courage to tell you that not only your anger but your entire life is laid on wrong foundation"

wow👏..everything that impulsive thoughtless careless insensitive inconsiderate man needed to hear.

I think sanaya was good but still a bit unpolished,raw..wonder how she would do such a scene now.

IPKKND Nostalgia: Episode 028

Khushi Faints

1. In fiction, as in life, we create well-trodden paths in our relationships. And what is wonderful for a writer of fiction is that we can use these paths to define a particular couple and their dynamics. So here is one which we will see repeatedly between Khushi and Arnav---and it begins with this episode. Khushi has a tendency to launch into long speeches. And she doesn't pause for response. Arnav gets frustrated because she stops listening. And he has a need to interrupt her because he has something pertinent to the conversation. So he stops her physically. The physical contact will interrupt her mind, it will take her into the body, and give her pause. And in that pause, he can make the necessary point. Here he grabs her wrists and pushes her up against the wall, and says, "I said---I didn't know how bad things were at this site."

2. The tear drops on his hand. The blood smeared in his palm. This is another level of him waking up to her as a flesh and blood person. In fact, the point Khushi was making is that his prejudices against her have prevented him from seeing her as a human being. These bodily fluids (hehe) show him the obvious---that Khushi is a person, she is more than a representative of a demographic that he despises. Is this also the first incident of him calling her by her name in her presence? He was shouting her name when searching for her------but in the past he has always addressed her as "Miss Gupta" or out of her presence, "that girl."

3. Fan-Girl Warning: When Mr Sobti carries Ms Irani out of the building, he looks SO heroic. As though she is light is a feather. Very filmi shot. The dupatta fluttering. Not many lines for Ms Irani to learn today. She can take a nap, while he does all the heavy lifting, take after take. Outside Buaji's house, he pauses with Khushi in his arms. I read that moment as his reluctance to put her into someone else's care. And that reluctance is mirrored by Khushi, who has a firm grip on his lapel. Even after depositing her into the care of sister and aunt, he stops outside the window for one long look.

4. I'm loving the Gupta women today. Payal drives into him without impunity. And when she is done. Buaji gets her turn at Arnav. Poor man!

5. Hate to use up a whole point on Shyam, but this scene is important. He now knows that Arnav is a somebody in Khushi's life. One casual conversation between Khushi and Arnav about their lodger, Shyam, could destroy him. Arnav paused when he heard Payal refer to Shyam. The Vakilsaheb's extra-curricular fun has become high-risk activity.

By Jalebi Jane

What an eventful day. It started with Khushi going to Arnav Singh Raizadaji's house ( she never calls him ASR), ended up putting her foot in her mouth by spilling Arnav's affair to Naniji, resulting in blowing very short fuse of Arnav, which when it comes to Khushi becomes even shorter. He did not want to see her anymore and she ends up in a ready to collapse building. The way he runs to rescue her was like as if he had to see her to make sure she was ok and nothing else matters at that moment. There was such care, gentleness in the way he handled her while brushing the tears off her face and while carrying her and in the car once they reach home. As if she is very precious to him. And yes, loved the shot of him carrying her so effortlessly :-)
Good for Barun as Sanaya is slim. Barun as ASR sure is an eye candy :-).
He could not even react to Payal and Buaji's outbursts as he is worried about Khushi and reluctant to leave her in that state. Khushi is soon becoming the most important person in his life.
It is official that khushi trusts him implicitly inspite of him insulting her at every given opportunity.
Shyam is surprised to see Arnav there. We were not supposed to know why he reacted that way as first time viewers.
Poor thing Anjali calls him for moral support but he does not want to leave khushi in this condition. His crush on Khushi is fast becoming an obsession.