@TM Aryan being her true lover and loving her and respecting her is a highly debatable thing . While i see where you are coming from , being a neutral viewer and all , you do seem to be more taken with Aryan . Call me judgemental if you will but thats just how i see it . Itsfunny how quickly people forget the past. Aryan's being portrayed as a messiah in Sanyukta's life and everybody including her seems to be buying it that he alone was the only guy to have ever supported or cared for her . What he does in his life as a criminal or whatever is absolutely his life , i won't comment on that because everybody in this show has sometime or the other hacked something so really everybody seem's to have a criminal streak in them and that's just not important. What i do want to comment on his true love for her . I don't know how you saw but his sudden need to just about jump into bed with her as unconscious spoke volumes to be about his true love. You might justify because then again every behavior is justifiable buti guess i can't and lets agree that yes he does care for her , love her even , what i can't agree on is he is the only one. Randhir has always and yes always been there for her in his own way which has often been him treating her as a 'dirtbag'as you so aptly put. To that i would say that she has always given it back to him , she has never been that meek , docile girl who would take it all lying down . She has hurt him just as much , picking often on his most vulnerable areas . Let me know if i am required to give examples . But i guess it really doesn't matter does it , she is the girl after all and she has the right tochose between the guy who truly loves her and the guy who is a jerk to her no matter how much of a jerk she was to him on a number of occasions. What matters is her self respect ,doesn;t matter if she has hurt a guys self respect. She can get angry slap him even and people will say poor her having to live with such a jerk , randhirwould hold on to her and shake her in anger and people would still say poor her why does she put up with such a guy.
Unfortunately its always the guys fault and the girl is given the privilege of chosing the guy who truly respects her not the jerk who cares enough to leave a job and stay back with her . That's the randhir i see and admire for you too ponder on .
As far as reality goes , its fiction and i wish people would read the disclaimer because it always say's its a '' fiction'' . It can never ever be brought into real life because it is miles away from it .
It would be nice if the channel weren't banking on the 'protagonists'and would have started this season fresh with just sanyukta's journey of finding love again. It's a fictional show people have been watching for the past 2 years for entertainment and seeing their favorite characters after a hard day of work or school to just relax. It's is of course hard to digest a complete 360-degree change in it's concept , format and characters. It's funny you find Aryan being sidelined for randhir as annoying when parth also had been meted out the same treatment as well as vidhushi and the rest of them . If the cv's really wanted to be fair in their treatment then they could have started that with a proper story for each of them as opposed to just showing the 'Protagonists'story and after 2 years of that people are suddenly just supposed to get the fact that this show is a unique one with no protagonist and they are the foolish one's for wanting to see more of their favorite characters at the cost of another one.
@ Hiitsme1985 It would be nice if a sensible analysis was highlighting both aspects of a character rather than justs the positive aspects one in comparison to the negatives of the other as subtly as it has been done. Well it surely is an art for then that makes you rational compared to people doing the same comparison in a more open way to . I am by no means trying to be personal , however i would have loved to see a rational post being made highlighting how randhir has been equal parts supportive of sanyukta as has aryan and they each have their flaws , now sanyukta its your choice to decide for yourself . what i am tired of is the rational ones always highlighting aryan's positivity in contrast to randhir's negativity . it would be lovely for a change if people remembered okay so randhir did all this too just not aryan.
I hope this isn't offensive to in your bid to be more rational it's unfair to call someone else irrational . Like you said everybody likes their own character and they have their own emotions attached to this show , its characters and their own frustration . This forum isn't just for creativity and healthy discussions , it is as much for the friendships that are made and a platform to share all your feelings about the show . It might not always be articulate or intellectual , but its every bit of their feelings which everyone deserves to come and share with their friends . i know it sounds like a tall order considering that is what leads to bashing and division of the forum into fandoms but i ve been a silent member for long and while yes i have seen my share of posts where people were not so nice to each other at the end everybody seemed to be getting along fine with their favourite characters . It would be nice if their feelings were respected too and they aren't termed as immature and not so intellectual for saying '' mg i can't take this shit anymore.''
For people calling her charactlerless yes i agree that is harsh . Talking about anyone's character be it a girl or a boy is really not good .
I could although tell you something about the one's pissed off . Like i already said , its a show , people are used to a set couple .within them one clearly hasn't moved on and the other's plain and simple confused. Its actually quite a messed up situation for the viewers . He left her got it , though i don;t know what i have missed but i don't remember her trying to locate him either , they were both going on with their lives fine , it crosses again and they both have no idea what to do with that . Now randhir is hung up there even though he claims that he isn't and while you are trying to make it easy on sanyukta saying that really he says he hates her what is she to do , well then she says that too but then goes and kisses him . She's free to move on be it fiction or reality what's expected is a bit more clarity which i realize isn't so easy but when it's peoples feelings at stake , its my personal opinion that people give some time to themselves to figure out their wants and make it clear to the other person that its over , they have moved on . Now if you want to talk about reality then i ll tell you about my friend who was dating a guy but wasn't very sure if she liked him. She didn't have anyone else however she was just never very sure . That guy however was crazy for her and then i got it she liked the fact that she had a relationnship , a boyfriend which is so cool when you are in high school , someone to give her chocolates and say goodnight i love you but what she didn't really like was the person itself , its just the gestures she liked . I don't know what you would call me but i gave her a earful , fiction or reality or whatever she was not being honest to him or herself also .
It therefore is the problem with sanyukta's characterization , by no means is she characterless but its the confusion which makes her difficult to relate to. If she decides to move on its surely going to hurt people because come on this isn't a documentary people see to enrich themselves with many of them being teenagers , its a show for entertainment but having said that it would also be a good closure if she took a decision and stood by it , sandhir or not.
Also i have read a few of posts where you seem to be quite understanding of sanyukta whereas not so much of randhir . it would be nice if you could probably put more thought into both of them instead of always finding her actions more sane . She takes a step forward to help him , he does too always even now , he hurts him physically even , she does too by slapping . You seem quite miffed of with the people of the forum and their biased attitude towards randhir , take a step back and look while you are very polite and kudos to you for that , you seem quite understanding of sanyukta and whats better for her and where she is the one being doled out unfair treatment from randhir , wheras she is always so understanding of him . It really isn't that where on one hand randhir has his own set of mistakes i don't see sanyukta trying to mend their relationship too, she is equally at fault for their marriage falling apart (with reference to your response from another post and forgive me from bringing it into this one). Its easy to say he left her but then hey she let him. Now before you call me some sort of a chauvinist , though i am a girl myself , you do remember the time when ada tried to break them up and sanyukta fought with all she had to keep him in her life . I find it absurd that when faced with a similar situation they both let go . She was broken but then again so was randhir and he was alone atleast she had her father to hold her , he had no one for a while .
It really isn;t about how wrong she is or he is they both are responsible adults and make mistakes , its unfair to always put down randhir for the same mistakes that sanyukta too makes and make him not deserving of her love and aryan more deserving of it because he is always there . It makes me wonder if everyons on the same page or not because its so easy for some to say he didn't respect her dreams whereas i remember him leaving his own task to help her , care for her , leave a job offer , bear with her father's insult , leave his parents for hurting and so much more . Does none of that really mean nothing.
Again sorry for getting your response from another topic into this one.
It would be nice if instead of calling everyone else biased we could step back and see we ae too .
@mimie3003 Its only shows and movies which make people believe in first loves as cheesy as it might sound because reality is a stark contrast , at least for some . It's again a fictional show , sorely for the purpose of entertainment and while not on a contract its what people are accustomed to and are still banking on thanks to the channels marketing.
To the patriarchal society , unfortunately the cvs are just that albeit very subtly or they are absolute feminazis . In no way are they the believers of equality nor are most people unfortunately because a girls character being questioned is terrible but nobody really bothers to shut down people infact nor did sanyukta when randhir is the one being bashed for his apparent innumerable flaws. To the people calling her characterless , that's truly shameful , its too harsh a word . I would probably call her confused and her portrayal vis a vis randhir's of still being in love is nobody but the cv's faults.
It's good that you are giving the benefit of doubt to aryan , it wold be nice though if people could give that to randhir too , sanyukta included and think back on all that he has done for her at the cost of his own life , careers and dreams .
It's really sad that people are always quick to justify a girl and support her and think of her as an incarnation of all that is good and holy in the world but when it's a guy being considered , oh that's a dubious one right there.
Saying sanyukta deserves better is so understandable is so natural but saying randhir does is so silly . If she would have left her job for him , she would've been a doormat , he did oh thats true love. She is confused between two people and she deserves the benefit of doubt for its quite a realistic situation randhir being confused about his feelings is is fault and hence sanyukta is justified . Nobody really cares to see is that she is confused because of her self. She clearly didn't understand randhir but she gets aryan and is enamored with him , what's adding to the confusion is randhir's presence not his hate or love . He could be a terrorist or a saint but the fact that they shared a relationship is unnerving not his behavior because according to sanyukta he was always just like this , disrespectful towards her dreams.
Now i know this wasn't really the topic but it really saddens me how unfair people and the cvs are in their version of equality. On one hand is the society that actually looks down on women on other hand is another , equally disturbing according to me is a society out to always put down a man to put prove a woman right , be it our biased laws , or even the mentality of largely urban people .it would be nice if people would sit and contemplate the situation and think that if the situation would have been reserved then would aryan still have been the messiah and randhir the jerk , not deserving of sanyukta. if it was randhir's journey being considered. If thought of that way sanaya is better for him , after years together sanyukta still thinks of him as a jerk whereas sanaya gets him , she is there for him be it in whatever situation . But i guess nobody would really say that nor would the cvs that lets show a guys self respect also being protected , if we are so modern in our thoughts that our female lead can give it back to the male lead , lets show the male lead too moving on with a girl more suited for him than trying to show him as still in love and contemplating to win back a girl who has moved on .
I am really not a crazy fan per say hell i don't even remember the last time i watched sadda haq but yes i do keep up with the written updates and randhir's scenes because from day one i just got that guy and despite all that i have said about fiction and reality i admit i am a hypocrite because only his character is real to me , as real as a fictional character can be . therefore thats just my pov about randhir and the comments.
Edited by 9luck - 10 years ago
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