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Posted: 10 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: -kri-



Thanks for liking the post. The problem is Raman's zidd for a kid. It is going to give some wrong signals. Victim will become villain there. I am badly waiting for the day but.

Thats the real prblm .Raman is ziddi this may make him
Villian .If Raman goes 4 surrogacy and if Shagun is the surrogate mother then surely MU will be created. Cvs shld nt
Brg surrogacy track this will make audience sad and if raman is nt informing Ishita she will also be sad and this will make
Raman look villian wch we as audience cant see.😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: o.Sara.o


Thats the real prblm .Raman is ziddi this may make him
Villian .If Raman goes 4 surrogacy and if Shagun is the surrogate mother then surely MU will be created. Cvs shld nt
Brg surrogacy track this will make audience sad and if raman is nt informing Ishita she will also be sad and this will make
Raman look villian wch we as audience cant see.😭



Shagun as it is enough. She needn't become surrogate mom. Shagun and surrogacy ka plan will do the needed. No need to show.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#43
Yes u urself is saying that u r unsure about the answer to ur ques...dear not offending but ur ques gives a feeling that the positivity u had yesterday kinda decreased a bit...Anyways for me Raman is a victim(to Ashok's plan which though unknowingly was initiated by his wife herself)...Raman is always shown as a man of quick actions,good or bad,right or wrong...So yesterday he was so happy with Doc Manoj that the moment he saw Shagun he decided to talk to her for Manoj as per his promise...He called out to her,phoned her n at the end reached an isolated place where the lady was entering all alone...thinking to see what the issue is, he just ended up in the biggest mess possible...
And today even I admit that being a hardcore IshRa fan it was not easy to see the cold storage scene...but that in no way ,I emphasize no way will shake my belief in Raman's love for Ishita...whatever he did is the ideal emergency first aid a person can give to a collapsing fellow being...Just bcoz she is his ex doesn't mean that he should avoid trying the possibilities to keep her breathing n just leave her there to die in front of him...Would Ishita be happy knowing that her husband stood there idly watching the lady die in front of him?
If he did so he would have been a monster like Ashok...
So it all depends on how we see it...For a human being with a heart it is a humanitarian act and for people like kameena bros it is an adult movie...One interesting fact is even kamerna Suraj is sure on the strength of IshRa relationship...but sadly some fans here lack it...
The CV's anyway did a daredevil act...They surely know they will earn the wrath of fans but they dared to show it...They could have avoided showing it to this extent but I guess with this they r brewing a much much bigger drama...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: mreshma


Yes u urself is saying that u r unsure about the answer to ur ques...dear not offending but ur ques gives a feeling that the positivity u had yesterday kinda decreased a bit...

</div>Anyways for me Raman is a victim(to Ashok's plan which though unknowingly was initiated by his wife herself)...Raman is always shown as a man of quick actions,good or bad,right or wrong...So yesterday he was so happy with Doc Manoj that the moment he saw Shagun he decided to talk to her for Manoj as per his promise...He called out to her,phoned her n at the end reached an isolated place where the lady was entering all alone...thinking to see what the issue is, he just ended up in the biggest mess possible...<div>
And today even I admit that being a hardcore IshRa fan it was not easy to see the cold storage scene...but that in no way ,I emphasize no way will shake my belief in Raman's love for Ishita...whatever he did is the ideal emergency first aid a person can give to a collapsing fellow being...Just bcoz she is his ex doesn't mean that he should avoid trying the possibilities to keep her breathing n just leave her there to die in front of him...Would Ishita be happy knowing that her husband stood there idly watching the lady die in front of him?
If he did so he would have been a monster like Ashok...
So it all depends on how we see it...For a human being with a heart it is a humanitarian act and for people like kameena bros it is an adult movie...One interesting fact is even kamerna Suraj is sure on the strength of IshRa relationship...but sadly some fans here lack it...
The CV's anyway did a daredevil act...They surely know they will earn the wrath of fans but they dared to show it...They could have avoided showing it to this extent but I guess with this they r brewing a much much bigger drama...



I am positive till now. As I quoted, it is perception. Ishra fan is me is not able to take it. That is the reason for dilemma. Not anything else. The day I lose my positivity, I assure that you won't be around . ranting forever to waste time is not my cup of tea
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Posted: 10 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: -kri-


Shagun as it is enough. She needn't become surrogate mom. Shagun and surrogacy ka plan will do the needed. No need to show.

Well said.Shagun ek buri atma hai jo humara pecha nahi
Choday ge.I dnt knw why Cvs gave shagun name to a
Apshagun woman.
Kri I am having a gut feeling that sum1 elz may get kidnapped
Insead of Ishita its all bcz of color coordination.
Lets c if shagun bcums the surrogate mothr and Ishita
gets kidnapped then 4 me the show is over.Instead of
Watching YHM I will start watching Tom & Jerry cartoon
Atleast it will make me laugh .Seriously this surrogacy
News is sucking.

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Posted: 10 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: -kri-

Well...sorry people. It is a topic again. Blame Abha who pushed me and thanks to Aishu who gave me the basic idea unknowingly.


Coming back to the topic, I don't have an answer to the question that I arose in the title. I think I should make one confession before moving on. I didn't watch the episode and I don't have any ideas to watch it ever. But, now, I should find an answer for the question. Totally, I am equally divided. While yhm lover sooths me by showing the logical side of this track, Ishra lover in me wants to kill Shagun.

Yhm lover knows that Raman didn't kiss Shagun but Ishra lover is not able to accept this fact. I guess 90 percent of yhmians are facing the same dilemma here.

It is not the scene but Raman's honesty is to be seen in upcoming episodes. Ishita has every right to know about this miserable encounter. Going by Ashok's plans, I doubt if Rkb will get the chance but I really really hope that cv's do justice to this track which has immense potential. To all Ishra lovers out there, nothing has ended. It has officially begun.

It is not always about trust. Circumstances and mindset of individuals have an amazing impact on the most sane people existing in the world too. I don't want cv's to let it go like that.


@bold - Well said 👏 👏 👏

As an IshRa fan, its not that I doubt Raman's intentions or what he did, but it was very difficult to watch 😔

Love the title of the post! So apt 😳

(Btw I'm Nids / Nidoo. Your recent posts have been full of positivity amongst everything that is going on in the forum, great job 😊)
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Posted: 10 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: mreshma

Yes u urself is saying that u r unsure about the answer to ur ques...dear not offending but ur ques gives a feeling that the positivity u had yesterday kinda decreased a bit...Anyways for me Raman is a victim(to Ashok's plan which though unknowingly was initiated by his wife herself)...Raman is always shown as a man of quick actions,good or bad,right or wrong...So yesterday he was so happy with Doc Manoj that the moment he saw Shagun he decided to talk to her for Manoj as per his promise...He called out to her,phoned her n at the end reached an isolated place where the lady was entering all alone...thinking to see what the issue is, he just ended up in the biggest mess possible...

And today even I admit that being a hardcore IshRa fan it was not easy to see the cold storage scene...but that in no way ,I emphasize no way will shake my belief in Raman's love for Ishita...whatever he did is the ideal emergency first aid a person can give to a collapsing fellow being...Just bcoz she is his ex doesn't mean that he should avoid trying the possibilities to keep her breathing n just leave her there to die in front of him...Would Ishita be happy knowing that her husband stood there idly watching the lady die in front of him?
If he did so he would have been a monster like Ashok...
So it all depends on how we see it...For a human being with a heart it is a humanitarian act and for people like kameena bros it is an adult movie...One interesting fact is even kamerna Suraj is sure on the strength of IshRa relationship...but sadly some fans here lack it...
The CV's anyway did a daredevil act...They surely know they will earn the wrath of fans but they dared to show it...They could have avoided showing it to this extent but I guess with this they r brewing a much much bigger drama...



very well written
this is exactly my thought
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Posted: 10 years ago
#48
I may be on the minority side but I didn't feel anything bad with the episode or the track in itself because I want this track to explore Ishita emotions and vulnerablities they have paved way nicely to explore her vulnerability but hope they execute the track beautifully instead of killing the track by same cliched scenes.

Ishita is at a vulnerable state even though she has not shed a tear for the unborn baby she is hurt inside on top it of Raman is not taking into account her feelings about a 3rd woman being the mother of their child she is already hurt with it because Raman who makes her the center of his world could not see her hurt and she is already feeling guilty she is not able to give the one thing Ruhi and Raman wants a child.

In the olden days Ishita had no fear of Shagun because she knew she was trouble and Raman would not go behind her but there were glimpses now when she found out that the Shaugun whom Raman fell in love is back and IshRa equation also has changed so she is more vulnerable at this stage so there is a possibility that all her fears might come true that Raman would leave her because she is not able to give him a child even though in her heart she knew that is not possible but her mind would be pulling her towards that possibility so I guess this would be the reversal of the Mani track

The other possibility is CV can surprise us with Ishita unbreakable trust on Raman. During the accident track she lost trust in Raman even though she did not have any clear proof based on a some scene she saw but here with clear proof from Ashok too she might surprise everyone and show her unbreakable trust in him

Finally Raman has so much trust on Ishita that she will understand him so he didn't even stop to think that if Ishita saw him in this position she would MU him.


I hope whichever way they choose they execute it properly and not turn into a comedy circus

Coming to your question in this track Raman is neither a victim nor a villain he was just being a considerate human but if he fails to disclose this to Ishita then he becomes a villain in the coming episode
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Posted: 10 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: mayasundar

I may be on the minority side but I didn't feel anything bad with the episode or the track in itself because I want this track to explore Ishita emotions and vulnerablities they have paved way nicely to explore her vulnerability but hope they execute the track beautifully instead of killing the track by same cliched scenes.

Ishita is at a vulnerable state even though she has not shed a tear for the unborn baby she is hurt inside on top it of Raman is not taking into account her feelings about a 3rd woman being the mother of their child she is already hurt with it because Raman who makes her the center of his world could not see her hurt and she is already feeling guilty she is not able to give the one thing Ruhi and Raman wants a child.

In the olden days Ishita had no fear of Shagun because she knew she was trouble and Raman would not go behind her but there were glimpses now when she found out that the Shaugun whom Raman fell in love is back and IshRa equation also has changed so she is more vulnerable at this stage so there is a possibility that all her fears might come true that Raman would leave her because she is not able to give him a child even though in her heart she knew that is not possible but her mind would be pulling her towards that possibility so I guess this would be the reversal of the Mani track

The other possibility is CV can surprise us with Ishita unbreakable trust on Raman. During the accident track she lost trust in Raman even though she did not have any clear proof based on a some scene she saw but here with clear proof from Ashok too she might surprise everyone and show her unbreakable trust in him

Finally Raman has so much trust on Ishita that she will understand him so he didn't even stop to think that if Ishita saw him in this position she would MU him.


I hope whichever way they choose they execute it properly and not turn into a comedy circus

Coming to your question in this track Raman is neither a victim nor a villain he was just being a considerate human but if he fails to disclose this to Ishita then he becomes a villain in the coming episode


Have been unable to write this thought the way you have Maya 👏 👏 👏

As I once said before, as per Ishita, Raman never had to choose between her and Shagun. But now that Shagun is good, she reminds him of the Shagun he fell in love with. And she's the biological mother of their kids too. Now comes the choice.

@red - Everything depends on the execution now, the level of which has gone way down recently.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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i am busy n didn't see d episode. on light note yhm cvs are villains n viewers are victims it seems lol.

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