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Excellently put!
Poor Farah really has got the wrong end of the stick here, I feel. It is true that Suhaib and Behroz's deaths meant that Wali had to give up his dreams and take on the responsibility of the family business but he had the love and support of his family, who always had his best interests at heart.
Farah on the other hand, was actually orphaned in a metaphorical sense when Behroz died since her mother (who is quite cold in her dealings with her daughter in general) distanced her from those who would have protected her and placed her amidst those who would deliberately mislead her.
Since Behroz's death, it has been Farah who has had to deal with her life completely alone. And Behroz had not made it any easy for her--forcing her into a marriage (however, well intentioned it might have been) or by never telling her about his life at the haveli (telling her everything before her marriage is hardly preparing her for the future).
One of the things I am loving the most about this stage of the story is the fact that suddenly Farah is realising that she doesn't have to deal with all her problems on her own or that she can trust these people who will never betray her. After all, Ruhi's inclusion of the clause related to the property in the divorce settlement was nothing short of betrayal in Farah's eyes! I mean, these long scenes of her pouring her heart out before Wali (setting aside the free-flowing waterworks!) is actually showing how she has now fought her inner battle and something has changed within her.
Farah has always instinctively disliked her mother's side of the family and she has felt the love for her in Agha Jaan's behaviour towards her. But she had been told that Agha Jaan and Wali's concerns for her were fake. So she was fighting against her own instincts-- a painful battle. And finally that inner struggle has ended and she has found peace.
All that remains now is for her to find love! 😳
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@OriginalBarbie

Excellently put!
Poor Farah really has got the wrong end of the stick here, I feel. It is true that Suhaib and Behroz's deaths meant that Wali had to give up his dreams and take on the responsibility of the family business but he had the love and support of his family, who always had his best interests at heart.
Farah on the other hand, was actually orphaned in a metaphorical sense when Behroz died since her mother (who is quite cold in her dealings with her daughter in general) distanced her from those who would have protected her and placed her amidst those who would deliberately mislead her.
Since Behroz's death, it has been Farah who has had to deal with her life completely alone. And Behroz had not made it any easy for her--forcing her into a marriage (however, well intentioned it might have been) or by never telling her about his life at the haveli (telling her everything before her marriage is hardly preparing her for the future).
One of the things I am loving the most about this stage of the story is the fact that suddenly Farah is realising that she doesn't have to deal with all her problems on her own or that she can trust these people who will never betray her. After all, Ruhi's inclusion of the clause related to the property in the divorce settlement was nothing short of betrayal in Farah's eyes! I mean, these long scenes of her pouring her heart out before Wali (setting aside the free-flowing waterworks!) is actually showing how she has now fought her inner battle and something has changed within her.
Farah has always instinctively disliked her mother's side of the family and she has felt the love for her in Agha Jaan's behaviour towards her. But she had been told that Agha Jaan and Wali's concerns for her were fake. So she was fighting against her own instincts-- a painful battle. And finally that inner struggle has ended and she has found peace.
All that remains now is for her to find love! 😳


Yep very well put! It's not easy to trust someone who never acknowledged her for good 18 years of her life! That too when pitted against your own monther. Did not aga jaan used to mention Zarminey as her only granddaughter? I think Farra still tried to see things straight and not hold grudges but then came the manipulation of her mama, mami and mom! Ruhi was also right is some way in her reaction initially. This is the person who berated her, threw her out of the house and never inquired after them! And all of a sudden she has to marry her daughter in that family! Also Behroze did not deal with the situation well. He did not explain or understand the insecurities of Ruhi! He somewhat dictated his decision. I guess he passed away too soon to explain. What I did not like about Ruhi later was her lavish spending of the money on her family! That is just plain wrong! It's not her or her husband's money to begin with! If you can't forget your insult then fine and good! But have some self respect and don't use the money either! She was also very cold towards her daughter and was not a mother to Farra when she needed her the most! I also could not understand as to how seh reacted when Shuaib passed away. It was an untimely death and all she could think at that time was how she is being treated! I think in moments like these no matter who the person or what the differences were we take some time to reflect! She never did!
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Excellently put!


Poor Farah really has got the wrong end of the stick here, I feel. It is true that Suhaib and Behroz's deaths meant thatWali had to give up his dreams and take on the responsibility of the family business but he had the love and support of his family, who always had his best interests at heart.


Farah on the other hand, was actually orphaned in a metaphorical sense when Behroz died since her mother (who is quite cold in herdealings with her daughter in general)distanced her from those who would have protected her and placed her amidst those who would deliberately mislead her.


Since Behroz's death, it has been Farah who has had to deal with her life completely alone. And Behroz had not made it any easy for her--forcing her into a marriage (however, well intentioned it might have been) or bynever telling her about his life at the haveli (telling her everything before her marriage is hardly preparing her for the future).


One of the things I am loving the most about this stage of the story is the fact that suddenly Farah is realising that she doesn't have to deal with all her problems on her own or that she can trust these people who will never betray her. After all, Ruhi's inclusion of the clause related to the property in the divorce settlement was nothing short of betrayal in Farah's eyes! I mean, these long scenes of her pouring her heart out before Wali (setting aside the free-flowing waterworks!) is actually showing how she has now fought her inner battle and something has changed within her.


Farah has always instinctively disliked her mother's side of the family and she hasfelt thelove for her in Agha Jaan's behaviour towards her. But she had been told that Agha Jaan and Wali's concerns for her were fake. So she was
fighting against her own instincts-- a painful battle. And finally that inner struggle has ended and she has found peace.

All that remains nowis for her to find love! 😳



I agree after Behrozs death Farah has been left om her own to deal with the hardships of life..something she was not really prepared for but had to do since her mother became selfish and was only ever concerned with her pain, her struggle, her insults.

Ruhi is still stuck in the time when she went to the haveli with Behroz...she refuses to accept the life moves on and you cannot hold on to grudges. Looks like AJs loss of two sons so suddenly has not taught her anything.

While I agree Behroz was very hasty with Farahs marriage...Farah never really gave her marriage a chance. There was nerver a moment of serious retrospect. She was young but old enough to understand rudeness amd politeness.

I cant really remember a moment where she had a civil conversatiom with Wali no matter how hard he tried.

And then she decides to go ahead and accept Moezs ring despite knowing shes someone elses wife. There are certain limits and Farah has done a great job in crossing all of them.

Wali and Arjumand should rightfully feel hurt, angry and humiliated.

Farah knows she has screwed up royally which is why she asks AJ how can someone gain their loved ones lost trust, respect and love back.

Thats why im looking forward to how she wins over Wali and Arjumand.
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EXACTLY!!!!!
Ruhi's insecurities and ill will are quite expected. I really wanted to thump Behroz on his head when he was shouting at Ruhi and expecting her to go along with his wishes unquestioningly when he had not shared his conflicted feelings for his family even once with her during their married life after their humiliation at the hands of Agha Jaan. I mean, for any mother, it is not easy to give away her daughter and here she was being forced into it against her wishes!
And of course there was Ruhi's bhaiya and bhabi to constantly mislead her and guide her further away from any possibility of resolving the misunderstandings with her in-laws. Ruhi does appear to be a person who has a constant need to please her brother and his wife. Perhaps this is a clue to the kind of childhood she might have spent. Her bhabi herself is quite a cold fish when it comes to emotions so Ruhi herself wouldn't have received much love and affection as a child. But instead of seeing this as a lack, she thinks of it as the norm. So when she faces the warmth of Agha Jaan and his family, she thinks they are pretending.
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Yep Farra definitely crossed the line when she took the ring! That was just so so wrong! She should have not! I think she thought this will make her mother happy after overhearing the conversation between her mom and mama! But still wrong! She was rude to Wali but I think she was initially civilized before the marriage but then came the manipulation! But then she was young and who would you trust people who you have known all your life or the ones you just met! For Ruhi it was not just the haveli incident! There was also 18 years in-between where AgaJaan never ever tried to reach out to them. Be the birth of their daughter or anything! As parents is it not your duty to reach out! The difference is that Aga Jaan realized his mistakes after he lost two sons where as Ruhi decided not to learn anything from these events! And was just in the me me me world and ignoring her child completely.!
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So true! Farah's not giving a her marriage a chance had a lot to do with her mother's influence on her but I would hope it was also partly because Wali in many ways unnerved her. I mean, imagine this girl who was still in her teens and she suddenly finds herself married to this guy who is quite a presence (to say the least 😉). He is active, with all his outdoor activities, who teases her and takes joy in scaring her a little as well. And of course, he is also incredibly good looking and a complete stranger. All this is a lot to take for a young girl. So she runs away initially and wants her father to take her away from there. Behroz tried to remove her fears so she at least initially could speak to Wali (albeit over the phone) with some politeness. And then of course her father's death brought all this to an end. Ruhi used Farah's fear to encourage the hatred that she herself bore in her heart for her in-laws.
But did Farah accept Moez's ring?? She was going to but then she didn't, right? (After Wali's ferocious intervention that is!)
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Yep Farra definitely crossed the line when she took the ring! That was just so so wrong! She should have not! I think she thought this will make her mother happy after overhearing the conversation between her mom and mama! But still wrong! She was rude to Wali but I think she was initially civilized before the marriage but then came the manipulation! But then she was young and who would you trust people who you have known all your life or you just met! For Ruhi it was not just the haveli incident! There was also 18 years in-between where AgaJaan never ever tried to reach out to them. Be the birth of their daughter or anything! As parents is it not your duty to reach out! The difference is that Aga Jaan realized her mistakes after he lost two sons where as Ruhi decided not to learn anything from these events! And was just in the me me me world and ignoring her child completely.!

This is sooo bang on!!! Even death wasn't able to wash away Ruhi's resentments..
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EXACTLY!!!!!
Ruhi's insecurities and ill will are quite expected. I really wanted to thump Behroz on his head when he was shouting at Ruhi and expecting her to go along with his wishes unquestioningly when he had not shared his conflicted feelings for his family even once with her during their married life after their humiliation at the hands of Agha Jaan. I mean, for any mother, it is not easy to give away her daughter and here she was being forced into it against her wishes!
And of course there was Ruhi's bhaiya and bhabi to constantly mislead her and guide her further away from any possibility of resolving the misunderstandings with her in-laws. Ruhi does appear to be a person who has a constant need to please her brother and his wife. Perhaps this is a clue to the kind of childhood she might have spent. Her bhabi herself is quite a cold fish when it comes to emotions so Ruhi herself wouldn't have received much love and affection as a child. But instead of seeing this as a lack, she thinks of it as the norm. So when she faces the warmth of Agha Jaan and his family, she thinks they are pretending.


I know we scream at Ruhi's stupdity but then this is the brother who brought her up when her parents passed away. She only stood up to him when it came to Behroze cause she knew him, his love and his sacrifices. But when it comes to Haveli people she did not know them at all! All that comes to her mind is rejection, humilation and loss! So yes she trusted her brother on this!
But she should have tried to know Wali before poisoning her daughter's mind and uttering the dreadful D word. I as a mother would want the best for my daughter and not be that hasty! She lost all respect when she started spending the money! There are a lot of women who are wronged by their husband's family but this lady has wronged herself more than what anyone has ever done to her! In my book she just single handedly tried to ruin her daughter's life! Whew!
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