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Posted: 10 years ago
Jiah's case is handed over to the CBI, so it's not just a regular investigation now. CBI won't have taken it up , had there not been some solid proof of foul-proof. It doesn't implicate anything but it also doesn't completely negate Jiah's family's claims in the case.
Bombay High Court directed the Investigating agency to identify if it was suicide or a homicide. So for now, it's not established what exactly happened.


If it was suicide, then clearly Jiah was a patient of clinical depression, she is not to be blamed and yes if she was alive , she would be charged and the same be dropped given her medical conditions. But the same cannot be said for the support system which includes her family and boyfriend equally. if they knew about it and didn't take steps to protect her or added to her stress they would be tried under the law.

As recent as June , CBI brought in Suraj and his father for questioning.

Given I hope we all respect the law of the land, lets just not play amateur detectives or doctors , Court and CBI are yet to establish the real reason for the death.

Suraj is not implicated because of some letter but rather there are certain circumstantial evidences which CBI are exploring. There is a lot in this case which is to be explored.

For me he is a d-bag , criminal or not- let the courts decide.


Edited by charminggenie - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
[Quote=LeadNitrate] And please don't say its your opinion and nothing to do with your favorite star. If instead of sooraj, jiah was Salman's protege you would be baying for suraj's blood from the front row. [/Quote]
That's actually really funny 😆 you know me more then I do!!!

Why would I defend someone just because they are friends with Salman???? I insult Salman Khan's father, Brother, Brother in Law, and all. 🤣 Should I be praising them?

Dude you don't know me enough to throw such statements at me... wish it really was Jiah instead of Sooraj... man can we go back in time!!!

Ohhh man. 🤣


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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: MrsSalmanKhan



Fiery, even back then, I was a little off put by Rabia Khan. My opinion on this whole issue was exactly the SAME back then. I didn't even know Salman is related to Sooraj. Hell did I know who even Sooraj was? I just read a headline Jiah Khan commits suicide, and I decided to read so many articles on it, and I had given my opinion. -- Little did I know 2 years later Salman will launch him?

My opinion is the same, Salman or no Salman... but you guys need better arguments.. 😆 or just don't bother...cause your little lecture won't make my opinion change..since it's the same since 2013.

Many people are only bashing Sooraj cause Salman launched him 😆😆 My opinions are not based on Salman, but many of you are controlled by Salman... sad!



LOL, of course I know. Some people are tooo pathetic to even troll when serious discussion was going on. I was put off and that's why didn't bother yesterday with my essays 😆 But seeing how instead of discussing the topic on hand, they are busy discussing you and throwing some pity candies, I had to join back in... 😆

Anyways, I don't even know if I should waste my breathe discussing the topic cuz not many are actually interested. They are busy dissecting who's the lousiest out here. Chalo, once you lot have a result, do send a memo, I would like to include my list of despicable creatures...😆

P.S: Even I am surprised how do A-holes like SRK or HR have blind support ? 😲 I mean cheating for me is like killing your family alive every day. If such f**kers have a blind support, I don't mind if there are delusional fangirls of Sallu. But then again, that's my moral compass... ;)




Edited by Fiery.Phoenix. - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Fiery.Phoenix.



Writing definitely don't change so drastically. The reason why we have writing experts. So I definitely have my doubts with those letters.


My doubts are there also. Although I did read some stuff last night on how writing changes with mood etc.

but then, why do writing experts have a career to begin with? do they sell chanay? 😆

Anyways,, the letters are being investigated.CBI also found many more documents from Soorajs home and they believe they may come to a conclusion very soon.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Jiah's case is handed over to the CBI, so it's not just a regular investigation now. CBI won't have taken it up , had there not been some solid proof of foul-proof. It doesn't implicate anything but it also doesn't completely negate Jiah's family's claims in the case.

Bombay High Court directed the Investigating agency to identify if it was suicide or a homicide. So for now, it's not established what exactly happened.


If it was suicide, then clearly Jiah was a patient of clinical depression, she is not to be blamed and yes if she was alive , she would be charged and the same be dropped given her medical conditions. But the same cannot be said for the support system which includes her family and boyfriend equally. if they knew about it and didn't take steps to protect her or added to her stress they would be tried under the law.

As recent as June , CBI brought in Suraj and his father for questioning.

Given I hope we all respect the law of the land, lets just not play amateur detectives or doctors , Court and CBI are yet to establish the real reason for the death.

Suraj is not implicated because of some letter but rather there are certain circumstantial evidences which CBI are exploring. There is a lot in this case which is to be explored.

For me he is a d-bag , criminal or not- let the courts decide.





Phewww finally something to discuss on.

What do you think of those letters ?
@Bold: LOL then what's the point of having such a law. Weird. Most people are clinical depressed or suffer from psychiatric conditions if they opt for suicide.

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@MSK: Dang, really ? Like drastic change in writing ? I should read up on it cuz clearly it doesn't seem logical given hand writing experts and their career...
Edited by Fiery.Phoenix. - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Fiery.Phoenix.



@MSK: Dang, really ? Like drastic change in writing ? I should read up on it cuz clearly it doesn't seem logical given hand writing experts and their career...


Yes with mood... and all..now how credible those articles were, I don't know..

this deserves a whole evidence-based article researching 😆

and yes, it didn't make much sense to me because then those that have a career as writing experts shouldn't be taken seriously? and lastly, if CBI didn't have doubts, they wouldn't send all letters for investigation. They had their doubts also.


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Posted: 10 years ago
@Fiery- CBI is not roped in because of the letters . Thats bogus. It's because of certain body marks that were found and reports from a private forensic team which contradicted the initial investigation and suggested homicide.
Also, the law is too complicated , we generalize it. They won't arrest or try Suraj , just like that even for suicide but it's the homicide where he is being questioned . He is considered , at this point, a suspect for her homicide , along with his father.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: MrsSalmanKhan


I called Jiah immature for suicing over a guy, a couple people called me out on it. and I said maybe I'm not able to express my opinion with the right words but what I'm trying to say is she was not a little girl to whom Sooraj in a fight says I'm over you, do whatever you want. and she ends up killing herself. There was actually a conversation, maybe it's fake but it was against Sooraj. Sooraj was being rude to her and told her do whatever you want , you are my biggest mistake etc etc.

and?

Immature is not a curse word and why is it being considered so offensive? Jiah wasn't able to make the right decisions.

Did I offend any member here? Why am I being judge as a person or why my preferences are being Judged? Can't people just calm their knickers or get back to me in a more civil manner?? No right then expect worse from me.

Calling a dead person immature is offensive. If you can't pay respect to her then you have no right to call her immature.

Sooraj was guilty and her mom could sense a foul play in it or else why would she blame Sooraj. Even lower court denied his bail, only high court granted him thx to another grt lawyer. With time all the evidence are destroyed and I m sure this will happen again. Her mom is figthing because she saw marks on her body which isnt normal during suicide case (atleast it proves he did physical tortured her) and even Sooraj has admitted in the interview.

Abb Sooraj itna he saant hota toh usey jail mein yuhi nahi daltey.
Edited by 9tanki - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: charminggenie

@Fiery- CBI is not roped in because of the letters . Thats bogus. It's because of certain body marks that were found and reports from a private forensic team which contradicted the initial investigation and suggested homicide.

Also, the law is too complicated , we generalize it. They won't arrest or try Suraj , just like that even for suicide but it's the homicide where he is being questioned . He is considered , at this point, a suspect for her homicide , along with his father.


I was gonna say the same. Its not an open n shut case of suicide, There is homicide angle to it. Or at least battered b4 committing suicide. There is a foul play and thats why CBI is involved.

But I know why sooraj is having support here from some ppl. Its way too obvious.

Suicide is a serious issue... some depression/ helplessness build up for years and then comes to a point when person feels "therez no way out of it other than death".. and sometimes one horrible incident can make (esp. younger ppl) to go for that action. But there is always as they say "final nail in the coffin" moment. I myself went thru it and it wasnt even depression... but b4 doing that last act, God or my Guardian angel put some sense in me.. and then things got better. Now, i have LOT to live for... b4 i say... "maut megbooba hai apne sath lekar jayegi".

For younger ppl, its mostly the relationship and substance abuse they r in. Parents and old frnds have always been there. If the person is depressed, would not consult those ppl... but put all their emotions in a loving relationship. And when that fails.. all doom and gloom. A loving n caring person can bring a critically depressed loved one back to normal life OR can hit the final nail in the coffin. And yes, if u r proven to be guilty to make some take her own life, u r a criminal. Yes, one has to be naive to think nobody can drive/torture some1 helpless person to suicide. And its a bigger crime than assassinate some1 point blank... coz the former been thru a slow death.. dying everyday lil by lil.

But, CBI is handling the case, must be so many angles to it. Just hoping against hope, justice will prevail.



Side note- There was a topic here and a member claimed with confidence that Jiah was (is) Aamir's step sister.. out of Aamir's father's wedlock.. and that Aamir cried a lot in her funeral. Now, if thats the case, Aamir wud at least indirectly put the pressure on authorities to investigate it as a priority case. And he wont let his best "friend" salman to do anyhting with that machchar sooraj pancholi... who was abusive towards Jiah is well known.

So, Jiah and Aamir connection was all farce.

RIP Jiah.




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Posted: 10 years ago


Well 9Tanki, I did say Sooraj is a douchebag and I have no sympathy for him whatsoever. I don't care about him. What I'm stating is only my opinion on this case from both point of views. Of course my opinion limits to only the information released as of now. I don't know more then you, and you don't know more then me. We are all stating our point of views.

When Sooraj is proven guilty of murder, then I will call him a murderer too and wish nothing but ill in his favour. I have nothing to do with him. 😆

Although, right now, I will go by what I know and I will object whenever I feel all blame is being put on Sooraj and Jiah is being considered as Messiah of Innocence.

There is a saying "taali ek haath se nahi bajti" - Both were wrong in this relationship. And as a girl myself, I believe if you are in an abusive relationship , you need to stand up for yourself and make wiser decisions. Now of course, "we don't know what Jiah was going through" -- but then again, if medical reports prove Jiah was in state of depression... then people suffering can do anything to themselves. Fingerprints on Jiah's body can be easily matched with Sooraj and Aditya if sent to advanced medical labs. Everything is possible today. How far is CBI willing to go, only time will tell.

and why I'm lashing out on Jiah's family is only because they claim all this was going on for a while yet they never stood up for it. and I have my right to feel it's totally wrong!!
Edited by MrsSalmanKhan - 10 years ago

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