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Posted: 10 years ago
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But what reason did Urmi have to pull a prank on that girl and get her into trouble?
That intention was to get that girl into trouble and get her out of the house
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How the scene was done is immaterial here.The point they wanted to make through that scene got conveyed Urmi wants that girl to be in trouble and she will go to any length to get her into trouble

Was this started by that girl or by Urmi?

Nimboli was all set to be friends with her and prepared to lead life in peaceful co existence and she offered a hand of friendship. What did that girl get in return?

Don't children often challenge each other? Urmi going by the story she must be 16/17 not that much older than Nimboli

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I still can't understand why she is expected to curb her small desires in fear of punishment and taunts when they are way of life for her.

When life is filled with darkness one just grabs what ever little pleasuer they could get.Because darkness is all they have in life and it applies even to small children like Nimboli.

Just because she is somebody with a sunny bright cheerful disposition that doesn't mean she doesn't feel the pain.

Cheerful exterior can hide a lot of sorrows - it is either a mask or one's weapon to beat life.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I think what the TM is trying to convey is once bitten twice shy. Why Nimboli is not learning lesssons from punishments meted out to her? It is like petty thieves are jailed for a while and when they come out, they start pickpoceting and other crimes. They are not bothered about punishments as they get used to them. Very few reform after going to jail.
If the creatives showed Nimboli controlling her craving remembering her punishment in that dark forest, it would have been much more realistic. But they want drama and trauma for the viewers.
It will be nice if they showed little growth for Nimboli.
If Nimboli is justified for her cravings, why cant Kundan be justified for his craving?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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So you accepted that challenge part was normal children behaviour and by that the help Mangala gave to Nimboli is for a good cause 😆. What Urmi did was pure kitchen politics and nobody said that Urmi is good or Urmi's behaviour is good. I was only pointing out Nimboli's behaviour - Mangala, Urmi etc. are not even mentioned.
As regard curbing her small desires - don't street children and young servants curb their desires after getting beaten up for the same offence once or twice? When we see a girl - who is almost 13 and not learning from her experience don't we wonder about the reason?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

I think what the TM is trying to convey is once bitten twice shy. Why Nimboli is not learning lesssons from punishments meted out to her? It is like petty thieves are jailed for a while and when they come out, they start pickpoceting and other crimes. They are not bothered about punishments as they get used to them. Very few reform after going to jail.
If the creatives showed Nimboli controlling her craving remembering her punishment in that dark forest, it would have been much more realistic. But they want drama and trauma for the viewers.
It will be nice if they showed little growth for Nimboli.
If Nimboli is justified for her cravings, why cant Kundan be justified for his craving?


@bold - exactly. It is not related to Urmi/Mangala/Harki etc. It is normal human behaviour - to learn from experience. And we know it is for drama and for sympathy - nobody likes to see a small girl being punished severely. But when it is getting repetitive and the girl is not learning anything from previous experience - the genuine sympathy also gets lost. But please don't compare it to Kundan's cravings - his case looks too gross.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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It looks gross, I agree. But in essence, it is also a sort of craving for that age.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

I think what the TM is trying to convey is once bitten twice shy. Why Nimboli is not learning lesssons from punishments meted out to her? It is l;ike petty thieves are jailed for a while and when they come out, they start pickpoceting and other crimes. They are not bothered about punishments as they get used to them. Very few reform after going to jail.
If the creatives showed Nimboli controlling her craving remembering her punishment in that dark forest, it would have been much more realistic. But they want drama and trauma for the viewers.
It wil be nice if they showed little growth for Nimboli.
If Nimboli is justified for her cravings, why cant Kundan be justified for his craving?

That's what we are trying to reason out.

She is NOT scared of punishments anymore. She learned how to survive those punishmenst.She mastered the techniques which minimise the pain when she is beaten.
She knows how to steal food and eat when she is starved as a form of punishment and she pretends to be hungry after being starved so that Harki will get an impression that she has been starved
She knows how to climb out of that kotri when locked up inside.

So it is not right to say that punishments have not taught her anything. She devised ways to make herself immune to those punishments - So she has no learning disabilities😆

She perfected the art of surviving punishments - yes it will be painful for sometime then everything will be alright.

She knows she will be punished but why deprive herself of such small pleasures in life in the fear of punishments?

As for discerning between what is right and wrong does any one in Akheraj house do that? Then why find fault with that girl?

Is anyone correcting her when she does somthing wrong? The only person who does that is Mangala that too it depends on her own discrimination between what is right and wrong.

At this point I really don't find that boy in the wrong even though he is no good.His behaviour goes with the kind of upbringing that boy had and the society and his peers.he is no different from them.

His cravings are age related. Don't want to bring comparisons but Anandi's balak var also had similar cravings when he entered his teens. He was peeping through key hole when Anandi was changing and he too was looking for ways to stay near and touch her as often as possible before Anandi was sent away.
Where as Kundan's parents are supporting his desire to satisfy his cravings and got him a new wife Sumi and Bhairon sent off that girl in order to save the kids becoming parents at the age of 13.The family is the modifying factor here.

Be it Nandini Shivam Abhi Mannu Pooja Kundan and now Urmi joined them all are kids at this age it is the upbringing and atmosphere at home that decides their behaviour and to an extent their own inner strength which will help them to withstand peer pressure.
Pooja succumbed to outside pressure
Mannu succumbed to the circumstances at home
Nandini and Kundan they are products of their upbringing and the atmosphere at home.
So i think these kids behaviour should be judged only after taking all these things into consideration
not in isolation
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nimboli is not surviving on her own - people are forced to help her and she keeps getting into trouble.That is not normal - that is what I am trying to say. We cannot see the serial in isolation of normal human behaviour. She said she has devised a way to beat the pain - still was not she in too much pain after the beatings? Could she survive without help from Mangla/Chagni/Anandi during various phases? It would have been more understandable if they included a little variation - that the girl was living like a normal girl and all these punishments/cruel behaviour started just now - and she is not used to these tortures. If she is used to such tortures - why she gets teary eyed when she is scolded? Why not she is learning that she has to curb herself in certain things for her own survival?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I still don't get what's so good about BV post leap that they had to destroy a happy ending unnecessarily and show all this. We have seen enough examples of how bad Bal Vivah is, how good Anandi is and how attached she is to Dadisa, Jagya and BH! They have illogical broke a good family for repetitive storyline or a story which has no connection with Bal vivah at all. How is Nimboli's story exciting enough to stretch a story? It's so so illogical! CVs try to connect everything to Bal Vivah though looking at their current main character Bal Vivah is probably the best thing happened to her! They are setting up new characters, new sasurals and new storyline at the cost of hundereds of loopholes!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@libsrocks - it is simple business. A new balika vadhu means they can stretch the serial beyond Anandi and Jagya 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

It looks gross, I agree. But in essence, it is also a sort of craving for that age.

Kundan's cravings are age related.But they look gross because of his selfish nature. Had he genuinely cared for that girl who is supposed to be his wife even if he didn't see her as his wife it wouldn't have looked so gross and repulsive.
The fact that he didn't care for her at all till his useless friends gave him this idea makes his attempts at satisfying his cravings through that girl makes it repulsive 🤢

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