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Who is to say that saying that Fawad is brilliant throughout but Sanam B only "begins" her performance after the 10th episode is a neutral statement? I think she was brilliant throughout. She's nervous and flustered, silly and giggly in the first half but I dont see anything awkward about that. Its what is required of her in these episodes. Its all opinions, how can anyone claim "neutrality" all for themselves?

Fawad is definitely fantastic in this show and I believe it is his very best performance. But so is Ahsan Khan, Saba Qamar,Khayam Sarhadi, Saba Pervaiz. Unfortunately, too many times people seem to lose sight that Drama is a group endeavour. The Fawad fever goes to the point of unfairness to other actors and particularly actresses. Its annoying to see dismissive attitudes towards his co-stars.

Originally posted by: fqsb

Who is to say that saying that Fawad is brilliant throughout but Sanam B only "begins" her performance after the 10th episode is a neutral statement? I think she was brilliant throughout. She's nervous and flustered, silly and giggly in the first half but I dont see anything awkward about that. Its what is required of her in these episodes. Its all opinions, how can anyone claim "neutrality" all for themselves?

Fawad is definitely fantastic in this show and I believe it is his very best performance. But so is Ahsan Khan, Saba Qamar,Khayam Sarhadi, Saba Pervaiz. Unfortunately, too many times people seem to lose sight that Drama is a group endeavour. The Fawad fever goes to the point of unfairness to other actors and particularly actresses. Its annoying to see dismissive attitudes towards his co-stars.

As for versatility, its true that Fawad has never done devious, planning and plotting kind of roles while Sanam Baloch has.This is not an insult to Fawad, its just a fact.

Sanam B is not afraid to do non-glamourized roles, negative roles or roles in which she is to appear older. Fawad's female crush type fan following is unfortunately limiting how far he can stretch himself by risking negative roles. I certainly hope that it doesnt stand in his way because he's a very very strong actor but it must be enormous pressure on him.

Originally posted by: fqsb

As for versatility, its true that Fawad has never done devious, planning and plotting kind of roles while Sanam Baloch has.This is not an insult to Fawad, its just a fact.

Sanam B is not afraid to do non-glamourized roles, negative roles or roles in which she is to appear older. Fawad's female crush type fan following is unfortunately limiting how far he can stretch himself by risking negative roles. I certainly hope that it doesnt stand in his way because he's a very very strong actor but it must be enormous pressure on him.

Originally posted by: khamosshhh

From the onset let me say tht my POV will be different from others based on my sensibilities and dat does not make me right or the other person wrong. Coming to Ranbir Kapoor, I find him a good actor not a great one, so I am not surprised tht he did not perform well in a weak scripted or badly made movie.😳

Guess I am hard to please and till now for me the only actor who I found gr8 across all generations and gender is Madhuri. She is such a restrained actor and does her roles with so much of subtlety and naturalness that u just see the character she is doing and tht character leaves an impression or u take notice of tht character even when it's a weak movie and character. Maybe memorable isn't d right word, but makes a person notice a character or the character makes his/ her presence felt even if it's not author backed. And dat's how I felt abt Madhuri. Unfortunately such nuanced performances tend to get overlooked and the more OTT or flamboyant performances get noticed and appreciated too.😕

I never thought I wld come across any other actor like dat, but as luck would have it I did and it was Fawad Khan and Sanam Saeed . A few years back some of my relative asked me to watch dis Pak drama Humsafar nd dey kept gushing over it. So I decided to gv it a try and even after watching a few episodes, I didn't quite get what the hype was all about. Though at that time I didn't even have any clue abt just how famous Humsafar was! But what did catch my attention was d male lead and I was just amazed at d screen presence he commanded and the way he was emoting nd den itself I had decided that I wld watch dis one for him. But never got abt to watching it and only after Zindagi aired it did I watch it.

In d meantime I watched ZGH nd dat too not the first time it was aired on Zindagi, but afterwards coz someone kept recommending me to watch it, so I watched it on YT. Was totally clueless abt dis show and didn't even know dat it was the same Humsafar guy who was in dis show too. Was already impressed by him but den watched Sanam in ZGH and was totally bowled over by her performance too And as I always said yes she edged out Fawad where performance was concerned coz her Kashaf was such a fantastically etched out character by Umera. Now have watched almost all d shows of Sanam and she has left me impressed with her every performance. I never see Sanam in her characters, so well does she get into the skin of the character. And I have even watched Daam, and according to me she did a fantastic job in Daam too, though she hardly had much screen space, even lesser than Zara's siblings, mamu, parents and others and yet she made her presence felt and I thought I wld never hate Fiza coz it was Sanam who was portraying her, but I too got irritated with her character's selfishness and total disregard for others and wanted her out of Junaid's life. So credit to her for making her character so unlikable. Her only drawback was tht I found her rushing through her dialogues, but it didn't take anything away from her acting as such.

So for me an actor who catches my attention by their restrained and subtle performance and yet have the screen presence even when dey r not doing anything in a scene and their body language and persona reeks of the character they r performing, edges out on good actors and there are of course many good actors. BTW d same happened when I was watching this Nandita Das movie Firaaq. One of the actors so caught my attention and I found him really brilliant and much later when he has done a couple of good movies where he finally got recognition did I come to know his name and that is Nawazuddin Siddiqui and though I haven't seen a lot of his work, but he does grab my attention in which ever movie he is in.

Originally posted by: fqsb

Who is to say that saying that Fawad is brilliant throughout but Sanam B only "begins" her performance after the 10th episode is a neutral statement? I think she was brilliant throughout. She's nervous and flustered, silly and giggly in the first half but I dont see anything awkward about that. Its what is required of her in these episodes. Its all opinions, how can anyone claim "neutrality" all for themselves?

Fawad is definitely fantastic in this show and I believe it is his very best performance. But so is Ahsan Khan, Saba Qamar,Khayam Sarhadi, Saba Pervaiz. Unfortunately, too many times people seem to lose sight that Drama is a group endeavour. The Fawad fever goes to the point of unfairness to other actors and particularly actresses. Its annoying to see dismissive attitudes towards his co-stars.

Originally posted by: harshu.sundas

so the problem is that Fawad gets highly praised and his co-actors get ignored ? and if this is the case, then whose fault is it ? its peoples' opinion and if u do not agree with it then just ignore it, its not always necessary to complain or show disappointment at such silly things .

About being neutral , i mentioned that how Fawad's versatility was question and sanam's versatility as an actor was rated high by somebody here, so thats not something which many of us believe, thus nothing in this thread can be delivered from a neutral POV , i believe .

Lastly, just the way you and many other sanam baloch fans are claiming that she was the best part of dastaan, in a similar manner Fawad fans are claiming him to be the best part , so where is the difference ?

I dont think its a "silly thing" at all. It has serious consequences in the industry and the world at large. Women are a bigger part of TV audiences worldwide but female actors are almost invariably given less money. Why? Because too many women fans sadly deny equal credit to female actors while they make stars out of male ones. This leads to an undervaluing of women's potential and an undermining of their power in the industry so that even in 2014, Cate Blanchett still has to make it a point at the Oscars that women's stories are worth telling.

This is a matter of wonder- the novel is called Bano and people are saying that theyre equally moved by the story of a man who lost his love and suffered but found another one and was eventually able to live a more or less normal life while she was so damaged by her post-traumatic stress that no recovery was ever possible. Even after a play such as this, the Sanam Baloch thread is 2 pages long while Fawad has received hundreds of posts about his sparkly eyes and how he makes people blush. What do women actors have to do to get their due?

The difference is that I never tried to make Fawad invisible, never claimed that his acting doesnt even begin till the 10th episode. I didnt deny him credit for a brilliant performance. But balance needs to be emphasized. The work of other actors including the supporting cast is brilliant too in this show. Its a pity that its so easily pushed aside.

Originally posted by: -Crescendo-

67 and a half years of independence of India and formation Pakistan and where do we stand...

I dun understand that reference. 😳

Originally posted by: fqsb

I dont think its a "silly thing" at all. It has serious consequences in the industry and the world at large. Women are a bigger part of TV audiences worldwide but female actors are almost invariably given less money. Why? Because too many women fans sadly deny equal credit to female actors while they make stars out of male ones. This leads to an undervaluing of women's potential and an undermining of their power in the industry so that even in 2014, Cate Blanchett still has to make it a point at the Oscars that women's stories are worth telling.

This is a matter of wonder- the novel is called Bano and people are saying that theyre equally moved by the story of a man who lost his love and suffered but found another one and was eventually able to live a more or less normal life while she was so damaged by her post-traumatic stress that no recovery was ever possible. Even after a play such as this, the Sanam Baloch thread is 2 pages long while Fawad has received hundreds of posts about his sparkly eyes and how he makes people blush. What do women actors have to do to get their due?

The difference is that I never tried to make Fawad invisible, never claimed that his acting doesnt even begin till the 10th episode. I didnt deny him credit for a brilliant performance. But balance needs to be emphasized. The work of other actors including the supporting cast is brilliant too in this show. Its a pity that its so easily pushed aside.

Salim needs and deserves a tight slap for behaving like that with Suraiya and attempting to beat up Hassan just to prove his point .. Hassan and Salim actually shows the difference in being educated and in being illiterate, while Hassan knows that one cannot get personal for such debates and shower hatred on family members , Salim on the other hand infact is jealous that why everybody including his parents are so fond of Hassan .