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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: anjs


oh ok...i didnt see Ahem's reaction when Gopi left...so wasnt aware of it...

Tbh Ahem's reaction was not shown very clearly. I recently opened a topic about this:

Exactly why did Gopi leave Modi Bhavan after Meera's accident?

though he is also flawed, no doubt...but atleast he doesnt try to dominate anyone...doesnt try to change others way of life...doesnt force his beliefs onto others...that is a big plus point for him, when compared to Kokila...and whatever mistakes he did, for me that is just part of being a human...mistakes and ego too (for e.g.marrying radha to spite gopi)

but Kokila tries to dominate each n everyone, the one who opposes enters her bad books, that a serious flaw...for her its her way or the highway...and no matter how good one is, one mistake and she is ready to throw you out of the house...which is a serious serious problem with her nature...

Gopi is a doormat for Kokila...she can never go against her...goes out of her way to please Kokila...only thing remaining is licking Kokila's feet...

I understand what you are saying about Kokila and Gopi. I actually think Kokila, Gopi and Ahem have a very strange relationship with each other. I did a topic on this too:


Radha's murder track : whatever she did, whatever defense they had...my view is that Radha's torture had become too much to tolerate...and thank god she finally killed her...otherwise i wud have gone to their studio n killed Radha myself 😛 😆

Yeah, I know how you feel. 😆 But I personally feel Radha is one of the worst sketched out villains that I have ever seen on TV.

overall, i would just say that this serial has a very cruel n cheap story...and they really play with people's emotions...my family really feel affected with what all they show...and showing this kinda serial to viewers over the long run...will shape the society in a very very bad and negative manner...

and i honestly feel the government should start looking at it...rather than showing this type of crappy serials...they should promote serials like 'Everest' which was so much realist and gave hopes to lots of young women to do good in their lives...

I loved Everest. Awesome story. There were many layers to each of the characters. I'm bitterly disappointed that this show did not get its due. It deserved much better. 😒

serial like this n a few more...and characters like Kokila, Gopi shouldnt be praised, else they set a very bad standards in society...

Yes, I agree. And I would say the same for the previous consistent number one show. It's actually shocking to watch the things they show.

But then here's the problem. These shows bring in high ratings. High ratings bring in ad revenue and that's all the channels care about because at the end of the day it is only a business for them. That's why these shows are still on air. They have no story to tell because there is no endpoint to work towards. They have no endpoint because channel does not want to give up their cash cow.

And then Star Plus hide behind their facade of 'Rishta Wohi, Soch Nayi'. One Everest does not give your channel a 'Nayi Soch'. Tagline should be changed to, 'Rishta Wohi, Soch...Kuch Bhi Nahin.' 😆


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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: anjs


@bold : they are responsible for the issues...but the way i look at it, Gopi is more then Ahem...mainly cause she didnt give him the importance that a husband deserves...Ahem had his own set of mistakes, which he did, initially cause he didnt want to marry Gopi n later cause he was Momma's boy...

I would say both of them are at fault and are equally responsible for all the issues. Both of them are equally stupid. The only difference is that Ahem is more educated than Gopi but did not have a mind of his own. If Ahem didn't want to marry Gopi, he should have been outright & should have insisted on marrying Anita. All that I can say that his love for Anita was fake. Did he ask his mother before keeping relationship with Anita & committing to her?

but then Gopi has taken some harsh decision bt their marriage only n only thinking bt Kokila's reaction...

when Meera went missing n Kokila was angry with Gopi, Gopi left the house, only cause Kokila didnt want to see her face...but not even once she thought bt Ahem...who was already fallen in love with her... how could she even do that...and then left him for 8 long years...still he didnt marry anyone else...later he was forced n tricked to marry Radha...but he never willingly gave his wife's place to anyone else...

Kokila or Ahem never asked her to leave. She left on her own. Gopi is such an idiot. She should have stayed & proved her innocence. Running away from the situation does not solve the problem. On the contrary, it makes the matters worse. Gopi did that & it resulted in Kokila asking Ahem to marry Radha.

even after that...Gopi hardly gave him priority...during the Radha pregnancy track, so many times Ahem, told her to chill...n let others take a decision...but like fools Kokila, Hetal n Gopi, kept entertaining Radha... allowing her to not only torture the family, but also take such a serious decision in the end...even after all that no-one tried to save Rashi, only Gopi did...that too her solution was to kill Radha...though i dont grudge her for that, as it was her anger which blinded her...but than i understand Ahem's situation more than Gopi...he did try as best as he could...but Gopi was never made to be a wife...she was a good daugher in law, and a good mother...but never a good wife...and a good partner...

I agree with you that Gopi did not give him the priority that he should get. But even Ahem should have come up with the solution to kick Radha out. Radha issue was not only for Paridhi but also for the entire Modis. Radha was torturing Meera & had kidnapped Meera & Vidya. He should have thought about that. If Gopi was never made a good wife, even Ahem was never made completely a good husband. He too gave more importance to his mom. He never balanced between his mom & wife but was holding Kokila's aprons at the most critical situations like Meera's drowning case. Had he been sensible, he would have taken Gopi to the room & asked her what had exactly happened and found out the truth.

and if now poor Ahem have found somebody whom he trusts n love...than to ruin that relation, just cause Gopi is the heroine and has to be right, is something too frustrating to watch...

if cv's are brave, than take it as a challenge...show that the new lady is an ideal wife and companion...why show her influencing the kids in a negative way...show her as an good mother...and let Gopi realize that she wasnt good enough for them...

Ahem is not that much bechara as much as you present him to be. If they show the new lady as an ideal wife, it will again give a negative impact on the society. Gopi has been dedicated to Ahem no matter how he treated her, no matter how much he had abused her, yelled at her and blamed her. Do you think he can use Mansi as a punching bag? Do you think he can throw his frustrations on her? Noway! She is not the person to take that shit.

also i think Meera consuming alcohol isnt something that i wud blame that new woman on... Meera is grown up...and nowadays all youngsters drink alcohol...so if we think that meera drinking is that woman's mistake then all the youngster's mothers are also wrong...so i think its not her mistake...its Meera's decision n i feel she was always the one prone to do wrong...even in her childhood...she was always the weaker person...

Yes, Meera is grown up but at this age, she would definitely need guidance & be told about do's & dont's. If children go in a wrong path, the society will definitely blame the parents. Although the new lady can be a wife, she cannot take mother's place. She won't give the same love to Meera & Vidya once she gets her own children. At the end of the day blood is thicker than water. No matter what.

yes that woman is at mistake when she tells meera to hide it from Ahem...and that is where the cv's are going on the predictable path...to show how wrong Ahem is for choosing to move on...they are doing all this...

Yes, it is a grave mistake that she is making. In a way she is not doing it to protect Meera from Ahem's anger but she is doing it for her selfish motives.

but eventually if you ask me...i think, in this serial...Kokila and Gopi have some major flaws...and are wrong...and Ahem, Hetal are mere humans, who try hard to be happy... and other characters are just piece of furniture...

All of them has equal flaws. Noone has more & no one has less.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunny.gurl

Are these modis spineless creatures or what? They have been so pround of their so called value for relations and togetherness over the years. But what for?🤢 Each time they spoil everything it's gopi who has to put everything together. Matlab Raita sab milke falaye aur gopi usey samete aur saaf kare. Or may be gopi herself is interested in this safai abhiyaan. That's why every time she has to take oath in loud and clear resonating tone. 🥱

The story has lost all the charm. A leap in the story should bring novelty. Yes, there's novelty in SNS but just in term of new dressing style, new makeup, new jewellery and new home decor. Rest everything is old.
What does gopi want to prove by blaming Jigar. Devarji aap bharat ban ke apne bhai ka wait kar rahe hai, aap laxman ban ke unke saath kyu nahi gaye. Bullshit!!(Huge Spanish big bull's) Did she care about her husband at all when she left modi bhawan after kokila reprimanded her on mira's drowning in the river?? No. Why couldn't she become Sita at that time. The main fault of jigar was to not to stop paridhi and letting kokila and Rashi go to Urmaila's home. Couldn't he take charge of the situation and simply stop Paridhi or get kokila a new home.
I am also wondering about Kokila's husband parag. Couldn't he stop kokila or shift with her at Urmila mansion(Alas! no saath from koki's saathiya)😆😆. Is he just concerned with eating, sleeping and making merry besides his big bro chirag. (CV's these two characters are there too in SNS. Please give them something to speak on. They have kept mum for ages).
As for Dhawal, his whole life looks like a joke. Poor chap. I was not able to decide whether to feel pity on him or to laugh when he said to gopi thatfor past 10 years he has regularly been visiting modi house to take Kinjal.😭😭 CRAP!!!

Gopi is realizing the value of her husband now when she doesn't find him around. What had happened to her when Ahem asked her not to poke her nose in Radha's matter. That time she wanted to sort out her family issues by keeping ahem aside.
I don't know if I should say that gopi deserves this because she does or I should sympathise with her because her husband and kids are not around.😕


The heading had me in 🤣 it is really is funny. But is apt.

Jigar is not able to convince Paridhi to keep Rashi nor Paridhi had any recollection of her "drama by the river side" in crying for the baby when Radha had her in the basket.

Paridhi is selfish. and Jigar could not tell her to face that she is selfish. He does not have the guts to convince her to keep the baby Rashi at home.

Hetal cannot be firm with anybody. Nor does she have any idea about what is correct is what is wrong.

Kokila is into her own ideas about what is right and what is wrong. She never cared about how Kinjal had to live when she stayed with Urmila. Now she has no control over Kinjal who got used to the comforts of Modi Bhavan and now would never leave from there.

And so true about Parag and Chirag bhai. Paragbhai has no voice over his wife. and as for Kokila getting hit by Urmila that too by broomstick that was a bit too much.

Characters like Gopi and Kokila have their own ideas about what is right and what is wrong. Kokila messes with everything but does not take responsibility about the consequences.

Gopi too did the same thing. She never once thought about her own children and her husband and her duty towards her own family when she did the "great" deed of killing Radha with trishul.

If Radha is such a threat to their lives why did she not plead her case in front of the judge in court? Why did she take the blame for cold blooded murder with a motive? First of all why were the Modis not careful of Radha in the first place? Why did they not check her phone records where she goes and comes etc?

Why did the Modis accept Paridhi when she was responsible for Radha coming back to MB and harming everybody including she Paridhi?

So what Paridhis' boyfriend was a psycho ? does not mean what Paridhi did was right? For such a person Gopi set aside her own family and went to jail. Gopi is the numbest nut of all Modis.

Next come Parag /Chirag bhais then comes Hetal, and then Jigar, and Baa.

Ahem told them to face what they did. but he is suffering after leaving MB.

It is only through Ahem Gopi is related to everyone in MB. did she not realise that her priority is always Ahem?

Even Kokila did not tell her to kill Radha. Nor was Gopi responsible for Radha entering MB. For Paridhi's selfish mistake Gopi committed murder and went to jail.

In the process her own life is ruined. well nearly so. Paridhi is fine and living comfortably in MB.


So is Kinjal living comfortably in MB. Kinjal and Paridhi are selfish and the rest are numbnuts.

And as for Urmilabehn her going paagal because of the pot falling on her head is too funny . And why should Kokila stay with her ? Could she not have done other arrangements?

Dhaval is mroe of a comedian than anything else. Actually when things go well one does enjoy a bit of comedy now and then but him going everyday to MB to bring back Kinjal is too funny.


Edited by pyaaribehna - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharoon3210




Kavita I so agree with you for some points ...


While I understand everybody kind of overwhelmed with ahem frustration, on a contrary half of them are pointless to me ...well how let me explain...

He was a mom's puppet ..and now he feels frustrated and wronged about that ..but who is responsible for that ? He listened Kokila from childhood because his father is always useles , and he felt Kokila like a god .,and koki thought him as her property ...but when he grew up he still coudnt make it clear to Kokila that now it will be his wish ..whatever he wants to do as he is adult ...Today he feels Kokila did wrong by marrying her with gopi ...so ?? Who's fault is that ?? Not Gopi's ...upto one extent koki's...but most responsibility is his own ...he just forgot anita whom he promised something , why coudnt he stand up and take some action like going out with anita ,standing firm against marriage , ..saying koki clear he can't marry ? Any action ?? Did he ?? Then he can't blame today ...he was an adult and his action and his responsibility ...

Then it goes, he keeps torturing gopi thrashing her , treating her like anything ..for two years , and slowly he gains affection towards gopi seeing her goodness...what was that goodness ?? Her kindness, her Standing for truth , her innosence ..her unconditional love for everybody ...did she see modern, educated ,smart ,today's Mansi type lady in her ??? No na ..still he fell for her and it went to consummation while drugged ...did he expect gopi will be a modern educated girl ?? If he did then it's his mistake ..gopi didn't fake an intelligence or smartness ...then why today he in repenting for all those goodness that time he was impressed of ??he can repent but nobody forced him to consummate the marriage ..it was also his wish without even before confession .l

Then meera came and they got all happiness...gopi 's family came and radha ,who was smitten by ahem from first day ..her whole attention was ahem, she started to dream a husband like ahem and to get everything whatever gopi is having ...

Then that whole umang kand ..now who is umang ??? What is he looking for ?? He is looking for revange what Ahem did with his sister Anita ...he did some with Kinjal but still wanted to destroy modis...so this whole umang scanario took birth because of Ahem ditching Anita ...and radha umang marriage ,then umang death all that nonsense...so actually who is responsible for umang taking revenge ?

Radha finally took revenge ( she thinks ) by doing meera away from modis, doing gopi away from modis ...Kokila blamed gopi, ahem didn't say no, he didn't support gopi , he too blamed him...Gopi was stupid enough, out of so much guilt and hatred she went ...but ahem didn't stop her ..well more hell he dragged that grudges for eight years ...it looked like if meera was never be found , he could never be ok with gopi again ., just because meera found he promptly asked an apology ...so what exactly he did that gopi will understand he has different expectations than Kokila, what was his action to prove that he is not wishing the same??? how can he blame koki now for that ??

Now radha ...yes he said gopi don't go there , yes he said don't poke your nose in that...yes he said stay away ...and then ?? They were staying same house as radha , all the kids were there , radha was today harming Meera Vidya and next day her baby that condition ...she is bossing around all and making Hetal beaten in hospital by all...so if gopi will stay in her room and close her eyes will radha magically disappear ???? What is the solution ?? Did he has any idea ? Being the smartest one in house did he do anything to save his family ,kids ,wife safe from radha ?? Paridhi did some ideas how stupid they can be ...radha needed actions to stop her ,eyes close karke gopi room me so jati to radha would vanish ????main moto was to eradicate radha ...stopping the problem from the root .. Applying a balm does not work always .. (He agreed to go usa also only after koki insisted otherwise what did he expect, they both will close eyes and no radha , like that ?) so while radha was a total fatal to the safely of kids he could have come up with a concrete idea which prevent gopi to do anything and radha also can be out ?did he anything ?

Whatever gopi did was wrong , but she didn't kill radha for time pass , last time also she did so much with meera ,but still gopi being a mother was patient and planned and hand overed to police ...she didn't plan a murder , it was a situation and heat of moment ...any human can be a victim of this psychological crisis if radha type somebody torture you for years...well radha was so evil and beaten her horribly she was blind by anger and rage ...understandable ...so she got punishment ..and gopi is the guilty , when the whole family rooted and watered the problem to grow ,,,while time came everybody showed their actual face..

Now the promise ..gopi is horribly stupid and dumb to say that ...but ahem was standing there , he was not paralysed ...he could say a word...gopi even called her ahemji and take care of Vidya and meera ...So gopi made to do a promise ,means he can't say a word ?? He can't break that ?? if any of your life partner makes such a mistake another is there to make her understand , to explain what she is going wrong ...hell he can yell so much ( that's what he did all these years ) ..he couldn't do anything to make gopi break that promise?? Or that was more tough than breaking a marriage ? A family ? While kids already lost their mother making them more alone ? He could talk making gopi stand and then said all these what he said to koki just after gopi turned back...or make her stand two minutes that he wants to talk and what should they tell to kids ?? If gopi didn't think , she did mistakes...ahem didn't do anything better ..he is no bechara not at all ...he can yell on everybody but can't do anything when it's needed...all he can do every time blaming everything on others and taking frustration out of that... What matters is action .., not dialogues ...just because gopi made a promise he was so helpless that's bullshit ...Gopi Ahem both have done same mistakes ...she said a wrong , and he answered another way without correcting that while knowing she is doing wrong...what gopi did that was her problem in thought process ,she is thinking others can be ok with this .( which is not correct ) but ahem did was thinking he was wronged by others by blaming while he did absolutely nothing in any of the situations above to make it right ... and when everything is out of hand all he could do is leave his mother and family at middle of the road ,and transferring kids responsibility to another woman ...and hating gopi for whatever she did whom she claimed loved once ,but didn't see any prove when it came on a gunpoint....

So for all the situations he is blaming others he is also 50-70% partner in crime in every case ..so what's these frustration all about ? Gopi being a Daan ki Devi or he being such useless action less all the time ?




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Then that whole umang kand ..now who is umang ??? What is he looking for ?? He is looking for revange what Ahem did with his sister Anita ...he did some with Kinjal but still wanted to destroy modis...so this whole umang scanario took birth because of Ahem ditching Anita ...and radha umang marriage ,then umang death all that nonsense...so actually who is responsible for umang taking revenge ?

This is a moot point Anasuya. When Anita came back in their lives, she said she had broken all ties with Umang for what he did to Kinjal. Then it was Gopi and Ahem who helped her get back together with her fiance. Umang wanted revenge, for what? When Ahem had redeemed himself in front of Anita for helping her settled down in life despite the fact she tried to kill his wife, then what business was it of Umang's to exact revenge from Ahem? In fact, Ahem should have been the one to exact revenge from Umang for what he did to Kinjal. Just like Radha, he was a villain without a valid motive.

So for all the situations he is blaming others he is also 50-70% partner in crime in every case ..so what's these frustration all about ? Gopi being a Daan ki Devi or he being such useless action less all the time ?

Frustation? He's Ahem Modi. The only way he knows how to deal with a situation that is not in his control is by being angry and frustrated. 😆 Yes, he is conveniently forgetting his contribution to the mess. Like they say, 'When you point your finger at others, three fingers point back at you.' But then he did make some valid points, which so far have been completely ignored and my feeling is that Gopi and Kokila are never going to at least try to understand his POV.

I would say blame is 33.33% for Gopi, Ahem and Kokila. I feel these three are equal partners in everything. I've said this before and I'll say it again: all three need to face up to their mistakes. Only when they realize this will they be able to sort out the mess in their lives and if they stop making the mistakes that they have been making for the past 23-24 years of the lives, maybe they will be able to live a peaceful life together with NO separations.

And then just end the show because I'm fed up now. 😆


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