Charlie Hebdo - Why did people get so worked up over a joke and kill? - Page 5

Originally posted by: Franco

OK thats fine I appreciate a good joke as much as the next guy but I felt it was wrong . Way I handle things is someone uses your name like that you have to fight them 😉😉

But do you wanna be my friend ???

Originally posted by: NigelMolesworth

Again...how's it mental harassment? Is it because the painter followed a different religion? Because I don't see these peace loving religious people objecting to temple depictions. Perhaps poking their nose in others' business caused them mental harassment.

You see fans of various religious clubs play victim card and try to prove that they are lesser evil.

Originally posted by: firework

@bold: That seems to be the approach of a lot of people here 😆 I am the exact opposite. I just don't care whether someone uses my name or not. I feel there are better things in life to worry about.

Not sure. IF friends never works for me, so lets just give it time and then we shall see.

Originally posted by: Franco

Originally posted by: Antlers

The Quran:

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...

but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."