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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

Whatever... All the people of Assam don't hate /don't kill Hindi Speaking people! Yes there is considerable hatred towards Hindi Speaking people there...but first Government should make them feel that they are part of indian Republic....Indian Govt simply for namesake..says that it is implementing this program..that program to North East...but is it happening sincerely there?

See the development in NE it is almost zero,still people don't have basic comfort of proper transport...proper transport is a luxury for them....when there is no development ,when is gallons,tons of partiality shown by Indian Govt ...people feel betrayed..cheated.. and restless...this leads to violence.

First the basic reasons for their violence should be addressed by implementing development measures in North East!! The common man in NE is suffering a lot getting sandwitched between GOVT and MILITANTS....

Regards,

Myth

I agree to your points Myth.

Not being sympathetic to ULFA or something but the people of the NE have enough reasons to feel deprived. The ULFA might have lost its relevance and it's ideology today but when it started it did have some valid points and those didn't arise in one day but over a long period of deprivation. First they were against Bengalis as Bengalis used to control all the major businesses and administrative posts. And it finally came to head when it was decided that Bengali is to be made the official language in Assam in place of Assamese. Even though I'm Bengali I wouldn't support that kind of a decision.

Now it's the turn of Biharis, who go to everywhere in India for Govt. services, and as much as they might deny it, it's an open secret that many of the times they get through these exams by bribing or some other kind of cheating like buying question papers, and the local people eventually lose out. Biharis and UPs take pride in the fact that they produce the highest no. of IAS & IPS candidates, but of what quality can be easily guessed if we look at the condition of our country's administration.

If we take a look at the budget the disparity becomes pretty clear. Everything for the West and the North and nothing for the rest. South of late has been getting a larger piece of the pie as compared to earlier as they have been steadily producing union cabinet ministers recently. Mumbai says they have a right to receive the biggest allocation as they pay the highest amount of tax. True but what they forget is the fact that those are corporate taxes, the sales happens all over India but the tax is filed from Mumbai.

Coming to Delhi, I never understood what importance that city has, to be given so much share in the budget. It has nothing of its own, some small industries, call centres of late, politicians and innumerable dalaals. It takes money which should rightfully be spent on other states. And NE is just one of them. Nobody cared about NE for 50 years until suddenly A.B.Vajpayee realised that there should be some development in that area as the lack of it is the only reason why militancy is growing there. But even after that 10 years has passed and what has been done, sadly nothing. Look at Lucknow, Vajpayee's constituency, and the developmental work that has been done and still being done over there over the past 10 years and compare that with what has been done over the whole NE, and you'll easily get the picture.

Sandya said that maybe the local politicians pockets all the money, what you're forgetting is, to do that they have to get the money first.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: souro

Coming to Delhi, I never understood what importance that city has, to be given so much share in the budget.

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It is our NATIONAL CAPITAL....it is same everywhere. How much share does Kolkata have in WB budget?

Sandya said that maybe the local politicians pockets all the money, what you're forgetting is, to do that they have to get the money first.

Do you have any idea how much do the NE states get from Budget?

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Meena1


Isnt Hindi the national language of India.. i am confused..! Does India have a national language..??


meens there was a debate on a similar topic few weeks ago about hindi being the main language of india. i was also confused about hindi too but let me give you the link where the debate was done. ok i tried but cant find the link

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Posted: 18 years ago
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they can love sharukh watch his movies but speaking his language wil get them killed?

but noooo i have to agree .. the paks have their own pride and so do they.. i wuld prefer to sing my countries national anthem too if i was in anotehr country.. but this is different

from what i know Assam is in india.. part of india.. they take part in indian programs.. srgmp ,or piku from zee cine stars ki khoj...

why hate hindi speaking pple?.. i mean india has sooo many languages n i dnt think any other country has that many./.. and one indian would know 3-4 languages at least....its something we shud be proud of.. ISNT it?
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: souro

I agree to your points Myth.

Not being sympathetic to ULFA or something but the people of the NE have enough reasons to feel deprived. The ULFA might have lost its relevance and it's ideology today but when it started it did have some valid points and those didn't arise in one day but over a long period of deprivation. First they were against Bengalis as Bengalis used to control all the major businesses and administrative posts. And it finally came to head when it was decided that Bengali is to be made the official language in Assam in place of Assamese. Even though I'm Bengali I wouldn't support that kind of a decision.

Now it's the turn of Biharis, who go to everywhere in India for Govt. services, and as much as they might deny it, it's an open secret that many of the times they get through these exams by bribing or some other kind of cheating like buying question papers, and the local people eventually lose out. Biharis and UPs take pride in the fact that they produce the highest no. of IAS & IPS candidates, but of what quality can be easily guessed if we look at the condition of our country's administration.

If we take a look at the budget the disparity becomes pretty clear. Everything for the West and the North and nothing for the rest. South of late has been getting a larger piece of the pie as compared to earlier as they have been steadily producing union cabinet ministers recently. Mumbai says they have a right to receive the biggest allocation as they pay the highest amount of tax. True but what they forget is the fact that those are corporate taxes, the sales happens all over India but the tax is filed from Mumbai.

Coming to Delhi, I never understood what importance that city has, to be given so much share in the budget. It has nothing of its own, some small industries, call centres of late, politicians and innumerable dalaals. It takes money which should rightfully be spent on other states. And NE is just one of them. Nobody cared about NE for 50 years until suddenly A.B.Vajpayee realised that there should be some development in that area as the lack of it is the only reason why militancy is growing there. But even after that 10 years has passed and what has been done, sadly nothing. Look at Lucknow, Vajpayee's constituency, and the developmental work that has been done and still being done over there over the past 10 years and compare that with what has been done over the whole NE, and you'll easily get the picture.

Sandya said that maybe the local politicians pockets all the money, what you're forgetting is, to do that they have to get the money first.

Souro !!! Wellsaid 👏👏👏

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Meena1



Isnt Hindi the national language of India.. i am confused..! Does India have a national language..?? What is the ULFA..?? What is BD..?? Why arent people allowed to speak hindi in Aasam..?? Dont they watch bollywood movies..??? I thought all of India was hooked on Bollywoood....!!



Yes a valid doubt Meena ji😊

Hindi is our Rashtra Bhasha..

Not entertaining Hindi stuff is their means of protesting the Indian Government...donno what they acheive by it....in NE ....watching Hindi Movies in Halls is a tough job and they too don't die to watch hindi films much there...we can see the unfreindly attitude of the people towards the HINDI....even in common people..reason.....partiality in the development schemes..and their implementation...in NE...The situation in North India /South India is completely different in NE..still it is not developed to the basic level....forget about the IT there..

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Terrorist/Militant groups in some NE states ban Hindi stuff bec'se they want to send message to the central govt in Delhi. Common people ain't against Hindi, one can read articles on how popular hindi movies and sops are there. Arunachal Pradesh has Hindi as a state language infact.

@ Meena : ULFA (United Liberation Front of Assam) is a terrorists organisation based in BD (Bangladesh), that seeks seccession of a seperate Assam from India. No, people can speak Hindi, AFAIK they have banned only Hindi movies/Channels...I could be wrong also.

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http://www.saag.org/%5Cpapers21%5Cpaper2034.html

WAKE-UP CALL FROM WEST BENGAL AND ASSAM - INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM MONITOR--PAPER NO.155

By B. Raman

On November 20, 2006, an explosion (some reports say two) in a compartment of the Haldibari-Siliguri passenger train at the Belakoba railway station in West Bengal resulted in the death of seven innocent civilians. Fifty persons were injured, 20 of them seriously. While no organisation has claimed responsibility for the explosion, the local police officials seem to suspect the hand of either the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA), some of whose leaders and cadres operate from sanctuaries in Bangladesh, or the Kamtapur Liberation Organisation (KLO), which is believed to have close links with the ULFA.

2. Media reports have stated as follows: "Police and intelligence officials believe the attack was carried out by the banned ULFA as the site of the blast is not far from the border with Assam. The finger of suspicion has also been pointed at the KLO, an insurgent group propped up by the ULFA that is active in north Bengal. Intelligence officials in Siliguri said the Darjeeling Mail, to which two bogies of the Haldibari-Siliguri train were to be attached, could have been the target. The Mail, coming from the Coochbehar district bordering Assam, was 30 minutes behind schedule when the blast occurred. The casualties would have been higher if the explosion had occurred at New Jalpaiguri Railway station near Siliguri, they said. The officials said it was likely that the explosives went off at Belakoba while being carried to New Jalpaiguri."

3. The explosion in West Bengal has come in the wake of a series of explosions in Assam since the security forces called off the cessation of operations against the ULFA on September 23, 2006, following the ULFA's reluctance to engage in serious peace talks with the Government. There were two serious explosions in Guwahati itself on November 5, 2006, resulting in the death of 14 innocent civilians. One of these had taken place in an area where a large number of Hindi-speaking persons from other parts of India live and work.

4. In its issue for August,2006, the "Herald", the monthly journal published by the "Dawn" group of publications of Karachi, had quoted an unidentified cadre of the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LET) of Pakistan as saying that the LET has changed its modus operandi (MO) in India as follows: (a). Direct confrontations with the security forces to be avoided unless there is a 100 per cent chance of success; (2). greater emphasis on operations involving the use of improvised explosive devices (IEDs), using explosive material commonly available in India; and (c) more attacks on installations (economic and other strategic targets).

5. A similar change in the MO of the ULFA can be seen in Assam. There has been a disturbing increase in the number of terrorist strikes involving improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and hand-grenades, while incidents involving hand-held weapons and direct confrontations with the security forces have not gone up. Compared to the number of explosions, the number of civilian casualties had not registered a corresponding increase, because the ULFA was largely concentrating on economic targets such as oil installations, power transmission lines etc. But since November 1, 2006, it has been targeting civilians increasingly. Available police statistics of incidents involving explosions and civilian casualties are given below:


YEAR NUMBER OF EXPLOSIONS CIVILIANS KILLED

2002 &n bsp; 18 &nbs p; &nbs p; &nbs p; &nbs p; &nbs p; 218
2003 &n bsp; 19 260
2004 &n bsp; 103  ;   ;   ;   ;   ; 202
2005 &n bsp; 121 &nb sp; &nb sp; &nb sp; &nb sp; &nb sp; 65
2006 &n bsp; 100 (upto October-end) 92

NOTE: The number of civilians killed is in all acts of terrorism involving the ULFA, including explosions. The figures are not exclusive for explosions.

6. According to the Assam Police, the following jihadi organisations are also active in Assam: The Muslim Liberation Tigers of Assam (MULTA); the Independent Liberation Army of Assam (ILAA); the People United Liberation Front (PULF); the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (HUM), whose Pakistani counterpart is a founding member of Osama bin Laden's International Islamic Front (IIF); and the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami (HUJI), whose Pakistani counterpart is also a member of the IIF. According to them, the activities of all these organisations are co-ordinated by the Jamiat-ul-Mujahideen (JUM) of Bangladesh, which organised hundreds of simultaneous explosions of crude devices all over Bangladesh on August 17, 2005.

7. Some HUM cadres, along with two Pakistani nationals, were arrested in August, 1999. Forty-two HUM cadres, including some trained in the Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (POK), have surrendered so far. Four HUJI cadres trained in Bangladesh surrendered in August, 2004. One HUJI cadre was arrested in February, 2004. So far, 370 jihadis have been arrested and 128 have surrendered.

8. The Security Forces in Assam have been putting up a determined fight against the ULFA killing 1,128 cadres since 1991 and arresting 11,173 during the same period. 8,465 others surrendered. As a result, they say, there have been some positive factors: Decrease in cadre strength; erosion of its support base in the population; decrease in recruitment and fund collection; and shortage of arms and ammunition. In view of these developments, the new MO of the ULFA has the following features: Decrease in specific targeted violence; increase in indiscriminate violence directed at soft targets; targeting of vital installations in remote areas; attacks on security forces when and where possible; and use of unconscious third persons not suspected by the Police for having the IEDs planted in public places.

9. However, the ULFA still has a hardcore of 800 trained cadres and another 1,500 untrained cadres. There are no signs of any weakening of its morale and motivation. Its command and control orchestrated from Bangladesh is intact.

10. In an editorial on November 9, 2006, the "Sentinel", a daily newspaper published from Guwahati, wrote as follows while commenting on the targeting of Hindi-speaking civilians from other parts of India living and working in Assam:: "Striking terror in the hearts of Hindi-speaking people of Asom is precisely what the jihadi elements of Bangladesh and the ISI (Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence) want for two reasons. In the first place, their identification with India is stronger than many others disillusioned by the Centre's neglect of Asom. Secondly, the Hindi-speaking people control the economy of Asom both as businessmen and as skilled manual workers. The forces inimical to the State want the economic vaccum that has stoked the illegal influx from Bangladesh to be intensified. However, none of this is unexpected. For over two decades, the "Sentinel" has constantly harped on the fact that it does not take long for a silent, unarmed invasion (My comment: of illegal immigrants from Bangladesh) to turn into a violent armed invasion. We are beginning to see this happening. Over the years, the Asom Government and the Centre chose to pay no attention. They are now about to reap as they have sown."

11. The same issue of the "Sentinel" carried the following report on its front page under the heading: " NE Rebels Still Getting Arms From China": "State Inspector-General of Police (Special Branch) Khagen Sarma said today (November 8) that arms consignments continue to come to the North-East from China. A huge consignment of such arms was caught along the Bhutan border way back in 1997 and the supply of arms from China to the rebel groups of this region has been going on since 2003, he said. "The arms consignments are coming through a strong smuggling network, and there is no evidence of the direct involvement of the Chinese Government in the illegal arms trade even though some sort of support from the Government to the activities cannot be ruled out," he said. (Chinese are playing some game there, we better counter those moves)

12. The newspaper, which was quoting from a presentation made by the IGP (Special Branch) at a seminar on terrorism organised by the Assam Police, added that the IGP also made the following points in his presentation:

(a). Terrorism is now not confined to a particular location.

(b). Bangladesh has become the hub of ISI and Al Qaeda activists, who are providing logistics and other support to the terrorist organisations in the North-East.

(c). The ULFA has been in an agreement with the ISI since 2004. After the set-back they suffered in Bhutan, the ULFA sent 25 of its cadres to Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (POK) for arms and explosive training. The terrorists are using a route from Guwahati to Karachi via Dhaka to go to the POK.

(d). The activities of the ULFA have increased in the last 13 months, particularly after the constitution of the People's Consultative Group (PCG), an overground front organisation. To make its presence felt, it has started to hit soft targets. Its modus operandi has changed. It has been using children and other innocent people to plant the improvised explosive devices (IEDs) assembled by it in public places.

(e). Although its support base has been weakened considerably, one of the main sources of its strength is the support from human rights organisations and a section of the local media, which tries to glorify its activities. There is a need to strengthen the psychological operations against the ULFA.

13. Many non-governmental organisations have refrained from condemning the ULFA's targeted killings of innocent civilians. Instead, the focus of their campaign has been against the Security Forces. After the two explosions in Guwahati on November 5, 2006, these NGOs remained conspicuously silent on the brutal killing of the civilians, but instead blamed the Government and the security forces for calling off the cessation of operations against the ULFA on September 23, 2006. The cessation had been announced on August 13, 2006, to facilitate peace talks with the ULFA. Since there were indications that the ULFA was exploiting this cessation to step up its fund collection drive through extortions and other activities and did not respond seriously to the Government's offer of peace talks, the cessation was called off.

14. Some of these NGOs had organised a public meeting at Jorhat on November 7, 2006, under the auspices of the People's Committee for Peace Initiatives in Asom. At this meeting, there was hardly any criticism of the brutal murder of the civilians by the ULFA on November 5. Instead, allegations were made that the security forces were committing atrocities against the civilians.

15. Some of the points made by the Hindi-speaking residents of Assam in their letters to the local newspapers are disturbing. One such letter published by the "Assam Tribune" on November 7, 2006, said: "Some people (in the PCG) even acted as co-ordinators in the ULFA dictat that all "Indians" living in Asom must pay tax, an euphemism for extortion. But the same ULFA never utters a word about the millions of Bangladeshis illegally living in Asom in fear of displeasing their foreign masters. In other words, "Indians" living in Asom must pay "tax" or face bullets, but Bangladeshis can stay without any such fear."

16. Any effective counter-terrorism strategy in Assam has to have the conventional components such as improving intelligence collection, analysis and assessment and co-ordinated follow-up action; improving the capability and resources of the police; strengthened physical security; and a well-tested crisis management drill. In addition, it must have a strong anti-illegal immigration component---to prevent any further illegal immigration from Bangladesh and the identification, arrests and deportation of those, who have already illegally entered India. Obviously for electoral reasons, there is a reluctance on the part of the Government to deal effectively with illegal immigration. This is likely to prove suicidal. Muslims constitute about 32 per cent of the population of Assam today. If the problem of illegal immigration from Bangladesh is not tackled, there is a real danger that in another 50 years, Assam might turn into a Muslim majority State.

17. Pakistan, Bangladesh and China have an interest in keeping Assam destabilised---each for its own reason. The interest of Pakistan and Bangladesh is in facilitating the emergence of a Muslim majority State and its ultimate secession from India. The interest of China is in weakening the Indian capability to protect Arunachal Pradesh in the likelihood of the unresolved border dispute over Arunachal Pradesh one day leading to a confrontation between India and China.

18. The previous Government headed by Shri A. B. Vajpayee was strong in rhetoric relating to terrorism, but weak in action. The present Govt. is weak in rhetoric as well as action. It seems to believe that confidence-building measures with neighbours who are sponsoring terrorism against India and the peace process would pay dividends in improving the terrorism situation on the ground. This is unlikely to happen. Lack of determination to act strongly and in time is already costing us heavily and will cost even more heavily in future.

The writer had visited Guwahati from November 6 to 9, 2006.

(The writer is Additional; Secretary (retired), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India, New Delhi, and, presently, Director, Institute For Topical Studies, Chennai. E-mail:itschen36@gmail.com)

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Centre_sleeps_as_Ulfa_str ikes_again/articleshow/2274619.cms

NEW DELHI: The killing of over 80 Hindi-speaking migrants in Assam in the past seven months might have failed to wake up the Centre but it has clearly given a reminder of what Ulfa meant by its threat that people who had converted places in Assam into "mini-Bihar, mini-Rajasthan and mini-Kolkata" must be evicted.

The outlawed group had held out this threat a few days before it launched a targeted attack on migrants in January this year.

On January 5, 2007, Ulfa militants killed as many as 48 migrant Bihari workers at brick kilns and some petty shopkeepers in Upper Assam's Tinsukia, Dibrugarh and Dhemaji districts in a single night.

The systematic elimination of poor migrants has become routine since then. The killing of 14 migrants in two separate incidents in Karbi Anglong district on Friday was clearly part of their selective attacks — the announcement of which was made by the militant outfit in December last year.

Ulfa, in its fortnightly publication, Freedom, had said: "...In Asom, the principal illegal occupational forces are the Indian Army. Those who illegally trespassed from Bangladesh and Nepal must be identified and driven away. But before that the Indian occupational forces must be expelled from Asom. With their notorious tricks to carry on business in Asom, the places which they occupied and converted into 'mini-Bihar, mini-Rajasthan, mini-Kolkata' must be evicted."

It was a clear warning which the government perhaps missed despite being reminded by the security agencies, including Army and paramilitary forces.

Reason — the state had to hold the National Games in February and the Centre needed forces to conduct elections in Manipur.

Incidentally, the Army felt the need to go all out against Ulfa and it even expressed this in no uncertain terms. The home ministry, however, failed to gauge the situation and the security forces had no choice but to obey babus in North Block who seemed to have ignored the 'real need' while going for 'symbolism' in making the National Games a success. In the process, the security of Assam has suffered. (IDIOTS!)

The Centre's apparent approach to go 'soft' on Ulfa during the period helped the outfit's activists to regroup. The gains they made first during unilateral ceasefire last year and then in the months preceding the National Games in February this year helped Ulfa make its presence felt even in areas that had remained out of its reach for long.

The incidents in Karbi Anglong district are testimony of its extended influence where it could even get the support of a smaller outfit.
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GUWAHATI: With incidents of the killing of civilians, particularly Hindi-speaking people, on the rise in Assam, Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi says he doubts the sincerity of the outlawed ULFA to join the peace process as it is "under the influence" of the ISI and jehadi groups.

Gogoi is ready to release five jailed ULFA leaders provided that brings the group's top leadership -- chairman Arabinda Rajkhowa and secretary general Paresh Barua, believed to be living in Bangladesh -- to the negotiating table but says there should be direct talks without any conditions.

He also feels the People's Consultative Group (PCG), which includes eminent writer Indira Goswami, has been unable to make any breakthrough in persuading the ULFA's leadership to participate in the peace process.

"They (PCG) are only talking to our leaders (in the Central government). They don't seem to have direct contact with ULFA leaders. Why doesn't Indira Goswami meet the other side? I am prepared to provide any help and facilities to them," he said in interview to a news agency at his residence over the weekend as the banned group kept targeting Hindi-speaking people in upper Assam, killing 16 people.

The wide-ranging interview covered issues like the infiltration of foreigners, an issue that gained a new dimension last year with the scrapping of the Illegal Migrants (Determination by Tribunals) Act of 1985 by the Supreme Court and the need to update the National Register of Citizens, as the 71-year-old Gogoi rebutted charges that his Congress Party was interested only in creating a "vote bank" of illegal migrants.

Asked whether ULFA leaders were sincere in wanting to hold talks with the government or whether they were only posturing, Gogoi said: "That is my doubt also. Their sincerity is in question.

"See frankly speaking, they are under the influence of many others like the ISI and jehadi groups. Their links with the ISI and jehadi groups should be broken, which is an international problem."

Gogoi said he had doubts whether any one in Assam has direct contacts with the ULFA. "But still I am appealing to anybody having direct contact with the ULFA to mediate. Otherwise there is no point. Unless you go and talk to people directly, persuade them, know their mind," he said of the ULFA leaders who have so far refused to come forward for direct talks.

"If these five people (jailed ULFA leaders) can bring their leadership to talks, I don't mind (releasing them). But I make it clear that talks must be direct and not through these five people or the PCG," Gogoi said, referring to ULFA's demand for the release of imprisoned leaders including ideologue Bhimkanta Buragohain. "Arabindo Rajkhowa and Paresh Barua must come forward. Otherwise there is no point of talking," he said, pointing to the direct talks between the NSCN-IM and the Centre since a ceasefire was put in place in neighbouring Nagaland in 1997.

Asked whether Bangladesh was playing a positive role, he said, "Somebody appears to be doing that. But let us see. Only results will show."
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: SolidSnake

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It is our NATIONAL CAPITAL....it is same everywhere. How much share does Kolkata have in WB budget?

National capital and all is very well, but that still doesn't justify in overloading it while keeping some parts deprived, there should be some sort of balance. And since you're talking about WB and Kolkata, let me tell you it's the same reason why in northern Bengal there were so much unrest, as virtually everything was spent on south Bengal and north Bengal always ended with nothing. Nowadays more money is spent on north Bengal for it's development and there's has been considerable improvement in the condition.

Do you have any idea how much do the NE states get from Budget?

Let me ask you something, can you name a few developmental projects taken up by the Central Govt. in North-East India in the past 60 years. Can you name any major project taken up by the central govt. aiming at better connectivity of the North-East with the rest of India, except for the Golden Quadrilateral by A.B.Vajpayee. And you can't say that they were not done because the local politicians pocketed the money as they are supposed to be directly funded and controlled by the Central Govt. If you keep some place isolated and neglect it as not important enough in your scheme of things (both economic but more so political) what will you expect??

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