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Posted: 11 years ago
#11
Sex has nothing to do which religion you belong, which culture or from where you are. It's not always that it's a "westerners" thing. Pre-material sex is your own choice and if you ask me it's not a bad thing.
What happens after you are married and you have a child and then get a divorce won't you be a single mother then?? How sure are you that your marriage will last??

I thought some years back like you, but not anymore. Maybe have grown up and realised more around me. Sex education is very important it's changes very much of your thought process. And the worst Period for a person is their teenage that when your hormones changes happens and they don't know whats happning. That's where sex education comes in. It's nothing wrong to have sex before marriage, it's your own choice. And you shouldn't be judged bcs of it or me expelled for that.

And I am liking how they are showing it in the show it's no in your face thing. Which happens in other shows.

Coming to the baby I would be really happy if they show that Navya keeps the baby and shows that a single mother can handle it
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Posted: 11 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Pre-marital sex is an individual CHOICE, not a LAW to be laid down...

What the show is trying to do is unique...to actually have a conversation about this topic without getting into preconceived notions of morality or right/wrong.

Sex education is not just limited to safety/precautions/teen pregnancies.

To have a broader conversation about this reflective of the ground realities is also needed...and it's a fact that most people today are doing it...so why be coy and hypocritical about it and pretend like speaking about it automatically makes you an "immoral" person?

I'm actually glad to see the show taking this approach and showing how teenagers today perceive this and behave on this topic...the more openly people talk about it, hopefully more MATURELY they can deal with it rather than acting out in confusions.


Well said👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
#13
I don't think they are showing this track as an encouragement to premarital sex
They are showing what is already happening
Pre-marital sex is a reality even in India
May be majority are still not doing it
But the percentage is increasing with or without ky2 showing it
What they are showing is, atleast frm what I understand and do crct me if I'm wrong, if premarital is happening atleast let the youth aware of the consequences and let them be aware of protection they should be taking
Sex education is not a reality, which should be!
And teen pregnancy is a taboo too, which the show took up
Both these topics are inter-related, and should be should be accepted sooner or later
The more later it is, the more victims
Without sex education, the victims are more bcoz of unawareness
They might know sex leads to pregnancy but not the science ebbing and the ways to avoid it
That should be made aware

P.S - TM, I respect ur opinion, even if words seem otherwise...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#14
Kudos to you for coming out in the open and staying firm on your convictions...its never easy!!
I am sitting on the fence regarding this post. I agree with some points you have stated and am uneasy with some.
When this track started, I had misgivings, as its a very sensitive issue and needs to be dealt with care. The basic crux here should have been teenage, single mom, no support pregnancies..how to avoid such a horrendous situation, the repercussions, the ways to deal with it, emotionally, physically, societally, support, understanding, regrets..there are a zillion questions and no answers here...hell the issues related to this are so multiple and layered that it is literally like opening Pandora's box. So, yes, this should have been the main focus, which seems to have gone totally awry. Keeping my fingers crossed for now in the hopes that we do come round to discussing this in details and providing some kind of closure to this track...really looking forward to how they deal with this humongous issue. From there we seemed to have jumped tracks to pre marital sex and its acceptance and open discussion..it is sort of related yet not where we started from.
Somehow the impression that this track gives out is that pre marital sex is pretty common and its the in thing among teenagers. Is it..really?? In a country like India, where rigid morals are spoon fed since the time of a girl's birth...and which has less urban and more rural population, where girls even struggle for their basic human rights...is pre marital sex so regular and so widely practiced?? I doubt it !! Not only is this not giving a true picture, it is also misguiding, in a way sending out the message that its a norm, its common, its acceptable and that's how teenagers are behaving right now..its a cool thing to do, nothing wrong with it...this impression does not sit right with me. Sex should not be introduced just for shock value, but it should add some value to the story. Lets not forget that we are dealing with young impressionable minds here. Just wondering about the true statistics here...
The whole principal Nandini, conversation and deal seems unreal. Don't see any principal of a prestigious college having such a conversation and agreeing to such a ballot being taken in a college. Also this is regards a students expulsion, not about how many students indulge in premarital sex and are doing it. Frankly what has that got to do with Navya's expulsion. Just cause a majority are having pre marital sex, Navya cannot be expelled??? Err...logic?? Where is this headed??
Now, don't get me wrong. Its not wrong nor right...its a personal, individual choice. If two people are fine with it, aware of the consequences and responsibilities and practice safe sex..thats all that matters. It's not a morality, or societal or religious or country issue. Its an individual's right, its personal freedom and lets not be hypocritical about it. Sex, marital or otherwise, should not be taboo, and no we should not be shying away from it, or its intelligent discussion. On the contrary, countries like India, need sex education desperately, we need to overhaul our whole system of dealing with physical intimacies and remove the shame or embarrassment attached to such vital and natural topics.
sorry for the long post..once again, appreciate your stand..# the freedom to make a choice!!
Edited by eveline - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: eveline

Kudos to you for coming out in the open and staying firm on your convictions...its never easy!!

I am sitting on the fence regarding this post. I agree with some points you have stated and am uneasy with some.
When this track started, I had misgivings, as its a very sensitive issue and needs to be dealt with care. The basic crux here should have been teenage, single mom, no support pregnancies..how to avoid such a horrendous situation, the repercussions, the ways to deal with it, emotionally, physically, societally, support, understanding, regrets..there are a zillion questions and no answers here...hell the issues related to this are so multiple and layered that it is literally like opening Pandora's box. So, yes, this should have been the main focus, which seems to have gone totally awry. Keeping my fingers crossed for now in the hopes that we do come round to discussing this in details and providing some kind of closure to this track...really looking forward to how they deal with this humongous issue. From there we seemed to have jumped tracks to pre marital sex and its acceptance and open discussion..it is sort of related yet not where we started from.
Somehow the impression that this track gives out is that pre marital sex is pretty common and its the in thing among teenagers. Is it..really?? In a country like India, where rigid morals are spoon fed since the time of a girl's birth...and which has less urban and more rural population, where girls even struggle for their basic human rights...is pre marital sex so regular and so widely practiced?? I doubt it !! Not only is this not giving a true picture, it is also misguiding, in a way sending out the message that its a norm, its common, its acceptable and that's how teenagers are behaving right now..its a cool thing to do, nothing wrong with it...this impression does not sit right with me.
Now, don't get me wrong. Its not wrong nor right...its a personal, individual choice. If two people are fine with it, aware of the consequences and responsibilities and practice safe sex..thats all that matters. It's not a morality, or societal or country issue. Its an individual's right, its personal freedom and lets not be hypocritical about it. Sex, marital or otherwise, should not be taboo, and no we should not be shying away from it, or its intelligent discussion. On the contrary, countries like India, need sex education desperately, we need to overhaul our whole system of dealing with physical intimacies.
sorry for the long post..once again, appreciate your stand..# the freedom to make a choice!!



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Posted: 11 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: eveline

Kudos to you for coming out in the open and staying firm on your convictions...its never easy!!

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I am sitting on the fence regarding this post. I agree with some points you have stated and am uneasy with some.


When this track started, I had misgivings, as its a very sensitive issue and needs to be dealt with care. The basic crux here should have been teenage, single mom, no support pregnancies..how to avoid such a horrendous situation, the repercussions, the ways to deal with it, emotionally, physically, societally, support, understanding, regrets..there are a zillion questions and no answers here...hell the issues related to this are so multiple and layered that it is literally like opening Pandora's box. So, yes, this should have been the main focus, which seems to have gone totally awry. Keeping my fingers crossed for now in the hopes that we do come round to discussing this in details and providing some kind of closure to this track...really looking forward to how they deal with this humongous issue. From there we seemed to have jumped tracks to pre marital sex and its acceptance and open discussion..it is sort of related yet not where we started from.


Somehow the impression that this track gives out is that pre marital sex is pretty common and its the in thing among teenagers. Is it..really?? In a country like India, where rigid morals are spoon fed since the time of a girl's birth...and which has less urban and more rural population, where girls even struggle for their basic human rights...is pre marital sex so regular and so widely practiced?? I doubt it !! Not only is this not giving a true picture, it is also misguiding, in a way sending out the message that its a norm, its common, its acceptable and that's how teenagers are behaving right now..its a cool thing to do, nothing wrong with it...this impression does not sit right with me. Sex should not be introduced just for shock value, but it should add some value to the story.


The whole principal Nandini, conversation and deal seems unreal. Don't see any principal of a prestigious college having such a conversation and agreeing to such a ballot being taken in a college. Also this is regards a students expulsion, not about how many students indulge in premarital sex and are doing it. Frankly what has that got to do with Navya's expulsion. Just cause a majority are having pre marital sex, Navya cannot be expelled??? Err...logic?? Where is this headed??


Now, don't get me wrong. Its not wrong nor right...its a personal, individual choice. If two people are fine with it, aware of the consequences and responsibilities and practice safe sex..thats all that matters. It's not a morality, or societal or country issue. Its an individual's right, its personal freedom and lets not be hypocritical about it. Sex, marital or otherwise, should not be taboo, and no we should not be shying away from it, or its intelligent discussion. On the contrary, countries like India, need sex education desperately, we need to overhaul our whole system of dealing with physical intimacies.


sorry for the long post..once again, appreciate your stand..# the freedom to make a choice!!



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I can't talk for everyone but growing up in Chennai in India, it was more common that I thought while was in school. When I got to college, I was shocked by how my peers were active sexually, only difference being that everyone acted like it didn't happen and this was years ago. Just read all the school confession pages in India and you will be like shocked to say the least with what's happening
Edited by AnomanderRake - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#17
Some misconceptions, Yes pre-marital sex is very common in India especially rural India. Just because of taboo and the regressive mentality we try to turn a blind eye.
here are few links to the studies carried which will prove why awareness about pre-marital sex and safe sex is so essential.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/premarital-sex-grows-but-not-awareness/article320899.ece _ This one mentions how pre-marital sex is growing at a faster rate in rural areas compared to urban areas.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3509709.html


So many studies , so many reports will present a better picture. But to say pre-marital sex is not a valid or important topic is wrong.

Navya's journey is not to be a teen mom, she is not ready but it is essential we teach people and teens that it is essential to have a holistic awareness about sex and safe education.

Mtv is trying open us about a topic which is reality. People do have sex, at college, school or otherwise. It is not wrong but practice safely to prevent unnecessary complications like STDs or teen pregnancies.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: AnomanderRake



I can't talk for everyone but growing up in Chennai in India, it was more common that I thought while was in school. When I got to college, I was shocked by how my peers were active sexually, only difference being that everyone acted like it didn't happen and this was years ago. Just read all the school confession pages in India and you will be like shocked to say the least with what's happening

HOnestly, have no clue and the reason is the double standards people practice regarding this. The hypocrisy never gives us a true picture. I am connected with both the worlds, eastern and western..so do realize that there is still a huge gulf in the way this is dealt with in both the worlds. Thanks for the insight though😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: eveline

Kudos to you for coming out in the open and staying firm on your convictions...its never easy!!

I am sitting on the fence regarding this post. I agree with some points you have stated and am uneasy with some.
When this track started, I had misgivings, as its a very sensitive issue and needs to be dealt with care. The basic crux here should have been teenage, single mom, no support pregnancies..how to avoid such a horrendous situation, the repercussions, the ways to deal with it, emotionally, physically, societally, support, understanding, regrets..there are a zillion questions and no answers here...hell the issues related to this are so multiple and layered that it is literally like opening Pandora's box. So, yes, this should have been the main focus, which seems to have gone totally awry. Keeping my fingers crossed for now in the hopes that we do come round to discussing this in details and providing some kind of closure to this track...really looking forward to how they deal with this humongous issue. From there we seemed to have jumped tracks to pre marital sex and its acceptance and open discussion..it is sort of related yet not where we started from.
Somehow the impression that this track gives out is that pre marital sex is pretty common and its the in thing among teenagers. Is it..really?? In a country like India, where rigid morals are spoon fed since the time of a girl's birth...and which has less urban and more rural population, where girls even struggle for their basic human rights...is pre marital sex so regular and so widely practiced?? I doubt it !! Not only is this not giving a true picture, it is also misguiding, in a way sending out the message that its a norm, its common, its acceptable and that's how teenagers are behaving right now..its a cool thing to do, nothing wrong with it...this impression does not sit right with me. Sex should not be introduced just for shock value, but it should add some value to the story.
The whole principal Nandini, conversation and deal seems unreal. Don't see any principal of a prestigious college having such a conversation and agreeing to such a ballot being taken in a college. Also this is regards a students expulsion, not about how many students indulge in premarital sex and are doing it. Frankly what has that got to do with Navya's expulsion. Just cause a majority are having pre marital sex, Navya cannot be expelled??? Err...logic?? Where is this headed??
Now, don't get me wrong. Its not wrong nor right...its a personal, individual choice. If two people are fine with it, aware of the consequences and responsibilities and practice safe sex..thats all that matters. It's not a morality, or societal or country issue. Its an individual's right, its personal freedom and lets not be hypocritical about it. Sex, marital or otherwise, should not be taboo, and no we should not be shying away from it, or its intelligent discussion. On the contrary, countries like India, need sex education desperately, we need to overhaul our whole system of dealing with physical intimacies.
sorry for the long post..once again, appreciate your stand..# the freedom to make a choice!!

Totally agree with you eveline,.. also im still waiting for the track to unfold but the logic of nandini,s argument with the princy wasnt convincing for me either.
I agree pre marital sex is growing but that in itself doesnt mean its the right thing to do. Debating the issue is a positive step. I give it to the CVs they even dared to take up this issue but i seriously doubt they are heading in the right direction. without understanding the enormity n serious repercussions of the issue is belittling the issue you are trying to highlight..
@TM respect your views
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Posted: 11 years ago
#20
@eveline: As others have already mentioned, the stats speak for themselves regarding how prevalent premarital sex anyways is in India...just because ppl are conditioned to not speak about it as much doesn't mean it isn't happening...in fact it happens all the more precisely cuz ppl dont' know how to speak about it so they only end up jumping into it uninformed.

With regards to Navya...well that track is anyways half-baked right now so I don't go looking for logic in things like the principal talking on this issue or agreeing to some ballot...those are typical creative liberties.


What is notable is that this show is atleast trying to have a conversation on an important issue affecting teenagers/youth in India today.

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