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myviewprem

@myviewprem

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Posted: 11 years ago

#61

Both are wrong

A judge is blind to relation

He shall decide based on evidence even in 21st century not on loyalty and past

Akbar is a judge first not a pupajaan or husband or son

And a judge makes decision based on the current evidence

And all 8 navratnas spoke against Man Singh

If that is case he should not trust navrathna's and those many Mughal soldiers means he should not trust salim against Salima too. Salim may be misguided or brain washed that is why kids are not allowed(or usually avoided) to usually give witness in courts too. Anyone can brainwash and scare them to tell lies.

In modern times what MM and MUZ doing is called threat or trying to influence the judge and punishable as per law. They both have no right to heckl a judge and influence him even if he is family.

Edited by myviewprem - 11 years ago

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NutellaWaffle

@NutellaWaffle

Stunner

+ 8

Posted: 11 years ago

#62

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Both are wrong 

A judge is blind to relation 

He shall decide based on evidence even in 21st century not on loyalty and past 

Akbar is a judge first not a pupajaan or husband or son 

And a judge makes decision based on the current evidence

And all 8 navratnas spoke against Man Singh 

If that is case he should not trust navrathna's and those many Mughal soldiers means he should not trust salim against Salima too. Salim may be misguided or brain washed that is why kids are not allowed(or usually avoided)to usually give witness in courts too. Anyone can brainwash and scare them to tell lies. 

In modern times what MM and MUZ doing is called threat or trying to influence the judge and punishable as per law. They both have no right to heckl a judge and influence him even if he is family.

I'm saying again that I'm not against nazarbandh decision of jalal to maan n Salima... As a shehenshah he shud act with proofs.ither wise ppl think that he is partial to wife n navratna n dint punsih them... I'm not against abt this decision... But the most annoying thing abt jalal is he truly believed maan Salima cud do this ... Atleast a self talk shud hv shiwn of jalal giving benefit of doubt abt maan n Salima... Day buefore yday I was mad at jo too... Bcz I expected jo trust on Salima or atleast her self talk wer she says that Salima may not b culprit... Jo atleast believes Salima n maan weras jalla not...
Wen jalal dimt question jo visit to Salima then how can he question abt jo visit to maan?? So wat if he is her relative... She went there as MUZ to know details... Shehnshah sister is bakshi... But wen he visited her to ask truth previosulh he asked as shehenshah not brother... Y jalla is thinking that jo went to meet maan bcz he is relative... Jo always goes to find any truth from culprits form strt... It's good that now as MUZ she went n has all rights to knw details...
Yday jalla behaviour during rotuals is immature... Stil he is in insulting jo mode n thinks that anything can happen in her absence too..
Y shud he beleive navratnas in maan case? Maan has showed unshakable loyalty to jalal til now... He fought wars for him even against his own clan by risking his life,, he saved jalal from Mirchi war abulmali captive ,,wat else is needed to jalal to trust maan?? He trusted todarmal in Shenaz case just by knwing him for months... Jalal self talk were shown abt todarmal n jalal said to todarmal that he wil trust him... Y can't jalal do same to maan ?? Aftr 15 yrs of loyalty this is wat maan shud get?? As per orders he may b kept nazarbandh but atleast for a second jalla dint think that maan may not do this... It's shocking...
Todarmal very well knows bcz it hapoend to him also in Shenaz case... Watevr is seen thru eyes is not always right ... But todarmal n other navratnas blamed maan as if maan is totally gaddar... Atleast todarmal self talk shud hv shown that maan definotely wil not do this...

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Pooja

@Jais1

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#63

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Both are wrong

A judge is blind to relation

He shall decide based on evidence even in 21st century not on loyalty and past 

Akbar is a judge first not a pupajaan or husband or son

And a judge makes decision based on the current evidence

And all 8 navratnas spoke against Man Singh

If that is case he should not trust navrathna's and those many Mughal soldiers means he should not trust salim against Salima too. Salim may be misguided or brain washed that is why kids are not allowed(or usually avoided)to usually give witness in courts too. Anyone can brainwash and scare them to tell lies. 

In modern times what MM and MUZ doing is called threat or trying to influence the judge and punishable as per law. They both have no right to heckl a judge and influence him even if he is family.

I am sorry, anywhere i did not read jodha asked jalal to release maan singh or i miss something. Jodha only said that she did not think that maan singh tried to kill salim. It is her beleive on her nephew which i really missed in salima case i was highly disppointed with that. I did not find it wrong . And as per leaving MUZ position it comes after when jalal said she misused muz position or she is muz and she cannot meet maan. And after than i thought she felt if in position of muz she cannot do anything else so why she muz? It was not like that she threatned jalal .

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preet

@preetgurti

Trailblazer

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#64

Jais agree
she told him she believe in his capabilities as shehnsha did he say he also believe her decision or capabilities
she never once said release maan singh she just feels someone is targeting his close ones only
and same worry hamida depicts to jalal
that its trap where his closed ones trapped
and with salima I was also upset on her stand but there I can only say she was confused as mother
this is same salima who supported ruq when she demanded akdha one child
though it would have been amazing if jodha at first go believe in salma
but now she is
Coz she is seeing a pattern here
she told rahim same
both are innocent

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susan

@Susan.Dsouza

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 11 years ago

#65

Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

yes susan jalal may or may not find abt ruk but jo wil surely get that its ruk...in btw all these JJ fights n one more thing is salim wil further go away from jo...

salim tho already jo se dur ho gaya hai becoz of dayan..agar iss baar jalal ne jodha se fight kiya for rukiya jodha shouldnt forgive jalal easily this time bas😭

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MaddyO

@MaddyO

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

#66

Originally posted by: preetgurti
Jais agree
she told him she believe in his capabilities as shehnsha did he say he also believe her decision or capabilities
she never once said release maan singh she just feels someone is targeting his close ones only
and same worry hamida depicts to jalal
that its trap where his closed ones trapped
and with salima I was also upset on her stand but there I can only say she was confused as mother
this is same salima who supported ruq when she demanded akdha one child
though it would have been amazing if jodha at first go believe in salma
but now she is
Coz she is seeing a pattern here
she told rahim same
both are innocent

Preet with Jalal it is if Jodha agrees to everything he says, does what he says then he is on good terms otherwise it is again instantly back to insults and shouting.

Cos CVs seem to think Jalal is strong only when he shouts on Jodha! 😆
No matter how much he lacks in courage in dealing with Jaan Begum, does not see the reality of woman he has spent almost his entire life with! When it should be otherwise Jalal Jodha should be solving all issues esp when it concerns Salim together and Jalal should be strong and alert brainy!

This was confusing for both Jalal and Jodha cos this was between SB and Ruk. If this was between SB and anybody else then nobody would have doubted SB. It is cos the opposing party is Ruk and we know how much blinders both Jalal Jodha have when it comes to Ruk!

Atleast it seems now Jodha has thought and come to realize that SB could not have done this!
Wonder when Jalal will think! Of course since the other party is Jaan Begum - that is his biggest issue! 😉😆

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preet

@preetgurti

Trailblazer

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#67

Actually maddy jodha akbar both cant doubt ruq salima both lol
u see in drug case jitna bhi we shout
cvs never showed jj past ninr years se only saw both salima and ruq love akdha kids
lol woh bhi kya kare

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MaddyO

@MaddyO

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

#68

Originally posted by: Rak014

You told my dil ki baat maddy!!😳

I can die to see that!!😳

LOL we know nothing will happen to Jaan Begum not even jail! That is reserved for innocents!
So we can just wish and imagine and feel some satisfaction!
The idea is so appealing 😆

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preet

@preetgurti

Trailblazer

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#69

Jann begun will be saved by nonther than salim tjis tume mom dad will be quiet
u see kal hi jalal ne salim ko pwers di harem ke issues he can change
jalal ji inhe chote ziddi drug addict bacche ko itni badi position

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MaddyO

@MaddyO

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

#70

Originally posted by: myviewprem
Both are wrong

A judge is blind to relation

He shall decide based on evidence even in 21st century not on loyalty and past

Akbar is a judge first not a pupajaan or husband or son

And a judge makes decision based on the current evidence

And all 8 navratnas spoke against Man Singh

If that is case he should not trust navrathna's and those many Mughal soldiers means he should not trust salim against Salima too. Salim may be misguided or brain washed that is why kids are not allowed(or usually avoided) to usually give witness in courts too. Anyone can brainwash and scare them to tell lies.

In modern times what MM and MUZ doing is called threat or trying to influence the judge and punishable as per law. They both have no right to heckl a judge and influence him even if he is family.

I am sure even in any court today past conduct is also considered. Reminding Jalal of the loyalty Maan Singh has shown over 15 years or Jalal thinking about the other opportunities Maan Singh had when he could have harmed Jalal is not pressurizing the judge!!!

It is done even today - motive and past conduct are taken into consideration. Did Jodha ask Jalal to free MS or SB?

Here when both jury judge and everything is one person and he has all the powers - to remind him about this is not pressure but just giving him reasons to think from other side!

Everybody knows evidence can be planted - I am sure even Jalal knows this!

BTW when Salim had already lied once about the kid arrow thing - wonder why ONLY NOW Salim's word is taken as final proof??? Maybe cos the other accused was Jaan Begum and of course when it comes to her the Shehenshah forgets all laws and punishments!

Did Jalal not HIDE the fact that Ruk had gone to meet Salim from everybody else? Even Jodha? He let Ruk go AGAIN I wonder if Rahim had not caught and presented Ruk in DEK would Jalal have acted against her? I am sure we can guess!
BTW Jalal also hid the fact that Ruk had asked for Salim from Jodha! Wonder why he has this selective love for truth and justice only with some people!!!!

So it is not as if everything Jodha does is wrong and everything Jalal does is right!
Esp when Jalal has got blinders when it comes to anything Jaan Begum!