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Originally posted by: kavyanjalifan06

Yea, I think ur right ^^

I think it was like Dumbledore defeated the wizard, not the wand, so he became the next possessor of the wand...if that makes any sense!!!!

No no i think u guys got it wrong u see, one thing is right dumbledore defeated the wizard not the wand!!! if u get wat that meanns???the wand is unbeatable but the wizard is not!!

for the matter concerning the elder wand SNAPE WASNT THE POSSESER he never was, Draco came through the room and unarmed dumbledore, sometimes the wand chooses the wizard you see and at that moment the wand turned it alligience to Draco!!! Snape never really killed dumbledore in a sense that i gueess u guys dont understand, but see dumbledore was already dying and remember bellatrix said u hafe to MEAN an unforgivable curse!! so Snape did kill him but not in such a sense that the wand would turn to him, but draco did disarm dumbledore. See dumbledore didnt kill grindelwald did he?? but he still got the wand C WADDA I MEAN!!???? u might not get it but ne way, draco never got the wand but it WAS supoosed to b his, den wen he was snatched of his own normal wand, the elder wand once again transferred to the alligience of harry potter bcuz the wand CHOSE him. MAn do you get wat im tryna say, its hard to put in words sorri. but voldermort did no good killing snape bcuz snape was NEVER the posseser!!!

P.S i think that J.K rowling should have made the last chapter alot longer and should have explained propaly about things lyk, Wat happened to the dursleys and stuff lyk that. I think the ending was a lil childish yknow but other than that she made the whole story perfectly fit together, She is amazing, but i think she could have made the book longer . I M REALLY SAD ITS FINISHED!!! 😭

If you found the epilogue of "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" rather vague, then J.K. Rowling achieved her goal.

The author was shooting for "nebulous," something "poetic." She wanted the readers to feel as if they were looking at Platform 9 through the mist, unable to make out exactly who was there and who was not.

"I do, of course, have that information for you, should you require it," she told TODAY's Meredith Vieira rather coyly in her first interview since fans got their hands on the final book.
Ummm … yes, please!

Rowling said her original epilogue was "a lot more detailed," including the name of every child born to the Weasley clan in the past 19 years. (Victoire, who was snogging Teddy — Lupin and Tonks' son — is Bill and Fleur's eldest.)

"But it didn't work very well as a piece of writing," Rowling said. "It felt very much that I had crowbarred in every bit of information I could … In a novel you have to resist the urge to tell everything."

But now that the seventh and final novel is in the hands of her adoring public, Rowling no longer has to hold back any information about Harry Potter from her fans. And when 14 fans crowded around her in Edinburgh Castle in Scotland earlier this week as part of TODAY's interview, Rowling was more than willing to share her thoughts about what Harry and his friends are up to now.

Harry, Ron and Hermione
We know that Harry marries Ginny and has three kids, essentially, as Rowling explains, creating the family and the peace and calm he never had as a child.

As for his occupation, Harry, along with Ron, is working at the Auror Department at the Ministry of Magic. After all these years, Harry is now the department head.

"Harry and Ron utterly revolutionized the Auror Department," Rowling said. "They are now the experts. It doesn't matter how old they are or what else they've done."

Meanwhile, Hermione, Ron's wife, is "pretty high up" in the Department of Magical Law Enforcement, despite laughing at the idea of becoming a lawyer in "Deathly Hallows."

"I would imagine that her brainpower and her knowledge of how the Dark Arts operate would really give her a sound grounding," Rowling said.

Harry, Ron and Hermione don't join the same Ministry of Magic they had been at odds with for years; they revolutionize it and the ministry evolves into a "really good place to be."

"They made a new world," Rowling said.

The wizarding naturalist
Luna Lovegood, the eccentric Ravenclaw who was fascinated with Crumple-Horned Snorkacks and Umgubular Slashkilters, continues to march to the beat of her own drum.

"I think that Luna is now traveling the world looking for various mad creatures," Rowling said. "She's a naturalist, whatever the wizarding equivalent of that is."

Luna comes to see the truth about her father, eventually acknowledging there are some creatures that don't exist.

"But I do think that she's so open-minded and just an incredible person that she probably would be uncovering things that no one's ever seen before," Rowling said.

Luna and Neville Longbottom?
It's possible Luna has also found love with another member of the D.A.

When she was first asked about the possibility of Luna hooking up with Neville Longbottom several years ago, Rowling's response was "Definitely not." But as time passed and she watched her characters mature, Rowling started to "feel a bit of a pull" between the unlikely pair.

Ultimately, Rowling left the question of their relationship open at the end of the book because doing otherwise "felt too neat."

Mr. and Mrs. Longbottom: "The damage is done."

There is no chance, however, that Neville's parents, who were tortured into madness by Bellatrix Lestrange, ever left St. Mungo's Hospital for Magical Maladies.

"I know people really wanted some hope for that, and I can quite see why because, in a way, what happens to Neville's parents is even worse than what happened to Harry's parents," Rowling said. "The damage that is done, in some cases with very dark magic, is done permanently."

Photos by Andrew Kandel for TODAYshow.com

Rowling said Neville finds happiness in his grandmother's acceptance of him as a gifted wizard and as the new herbology professor at Hogwarts.

The fate of Hogwarts
Nineteen years after the Battle of Hogwarts, the school for witchcraft and wizardry is led by an entirely new headmaster ("McGonagall was really getting on a bit") as well as a new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. That position is now as safe as the other teaching posts at Hogwarts, since Voldemort's death broke the jinx that kept a Defense Against the Dark Arts professor from remaining for more than a year.

While Rowling didn't clarify whether Harry, Ron and Hermione ever return to school to finish their seventh year, she did say she could see Harry popping up every now and again to give the "odd talk" on Defense Against the Dark Arts.

More details to come?
Rowling said she may eventually reveal more details in a Harry Potter encyclopedia, but even then, it will never be enough to satisfy the most ardent of her fans.

"I'm dealing with a level of obsession in some of my fans that will not rest until they know the middle names of Harry's great-great-grandparents," she said. Not that she's discouraging the Potter devotion!

"I love it," she said. "I'm all for that."

^^ Thanks so much for that article!!!! It cleared up some questions I had too!!! Thanks!

Originally posted by: smritisashi

and as for the entire Elder Wand thing..i dont think its necessary that the wizards are actually duelling with the elder Wand...if you rember wen harry defeated draco..draco did not hat the elder Wand with him, he had is usual wand but since harry defeated Draco so he became the master of the Elder Wand...similarly if you remember there wasnt nay duel at all between Snape and voldy all he did was to kill snape as he thot that Snape was the owner of the Elder Wand and hence marely by killing him the wand wld become his...so same ways it is possible that in the famous DD Grindelwald duel. Grindalwald never had the Elder Wand with him and insted was duelling with his usal wand and since he got defeated by DD the possession automatically passed to DD...

There is no chance that Grindelwald DIDNOT duel Dumbledore with The Elder Wand. HGe had the Elder Wand in hand, he feared Dumbledore...in fact the only man he feared was Dumbledore---so do u think he is foolish enough to think that he can defeat DD without the Elder Wand?😕

Grindelwald---STOLE in Elder Wand from Gregerovitch and stunned him at the time thereby defeating him and he did become the owner. N then he passed it to Dumbledore.

anyways....

another doubt..I was just thinking--Its said that no spell or charm works on a person under the Invisibility Cloak...Haary was using the Invisibility cloak when Dumbledore stuinned him just before his death in book 6....😕

Originally posted by: smritisashi

i read sme of the last pages and i guess the topic of discussion is DD..well i realy loved the extra ordinory idea he had to make sure that harry believes in the fact that only his death can mean a permanent end of Voldemort..i mean if DD had no tsounded so matter of factly and soo ruthless, harry would never have believed the raw truth in it...it was necessary for DD to sound so unconcerened and detached and it was even more neccessary for him to keep the whole plan to himself so that even people besides harry...like snape who heard DD...should truely feel that there realy is no other way out...this was the trick that actualy made harry want to die for the wizarding world and becuase of his intentions of dyin for his loved ones he succeeded in creating a shield for them as Lily had done for him....obviously DD had known long back at the night when voldy had returned that voldy could not kill harry now becuase he had done the blunder of taking harry's blood for his revival and in that manner he had not only ensured harry's protection rested in his blood but also ensured that as long as he lived harry would live too...doo DD was rest assured that wayever happens harry atleast is secure..and perhaps that is why he left harry to persue in search of the horcruxes...ofcorse harry was jolted by this realization rhat he carried voldy's soul...but in the end only this did the trick...so atleast i solute Dd for his foresight and wisdom...he truely is the greatest wizard ever...and the best part is that even he wasnt perfect, he did had some short comings in his youth even he wanted to persue in search of the hallows to master death, but atleast he knew the differance between a hallow and a horcrux and thats all what matters he knew the differance between good and evil and he knew which way he had to go....

WELL SAID YAAR👏 Its you choices which decide what u truly yaar...DD was intelligent wnough to understand the difference between a horcrux and hallow...n also he was very frank in saying that he feared his own brilliance😊

anyways..Its official ok guys!!! ALBUS DUMBLEDORE WAS IS AND REMAINS THE GREATEST CREATION OF JK ROWLING!👏😉

Originally posted by: thedarklord

did anyone feel that harry and neville shud have been given a chance to take revenge with wormtail and bellatrix respectively..neville was given a chance to be a hero in the end but i thought he shud have been given atleast a shot at bellatrix..and i find it hilarious that JK made harry and ron so shy 😃 😃 ..cho,ginny and hermione had to make the first move...common guys u fight dark wizards and cant express ur feelings to a girl..lol

Harry did get revenge on wormtail because in malfoy manner in the dungeon when Harry reminded wormtail that he had saved him wormtail killed himself, the guilt of trying to repay harry back and his loyalty to Voldy must have done that.. as for Neville he got his chance when he got to kill Nagini, and i think no one could have done bellaxtrix justice as Mrs.Weasly did (No one touches my daughter bitch! - priceless!!) As for Ron and Harry being shy its in all guys nature and i think JKR wanted to preserve the natural emotions of the characters depending on their age in the book

Nabs

Originally posted by: lucky_lakshmi

There is no chance that Grindelwald DIDNOT duel Dumbledore with The Elder Wand. HGe had the Elder Wand in hand, he feared Dumbledore...in fact the only man he feared was Dumbledore---so do u think he is foolish enough to think that he can defeat DD without the Elder Wand?😕

Grindelwald---STOLE in Elder Wand from Gregerovitch and stunned him at the time thereby defeating him and he did become the owner. N then he passed it to Dumbledore.

anyways....

another doubt..I was just thinking--Its said that no spell or charm works on a person under the Invisibility Cloak...Haary was using the Invisibility cloak when Dumbledore stuinned him just before his death in book 6....😕

yes dumble dore freezed him when he was under the cloak
but wait..is it specifically mentioned that u cant cast a spell on a person under the cloak


as far as i remmeber..lovegood said the cloak should be such that it provides inpenetratable concealment...irrespective of the spell cast.
meaning the wearer cant be seen whichever revealing spells or any other u cast on him..

so dumble dore could have easily freezed him inside the cloak ..he couldnt have caused him to reveal himself

Originally posted by: umi82990

Finished 'Potter'? Rowling tells what happens next

Exclusive: Author gives details on events after the book's final epilogue

By Jen Brown

TODAYShow.com contributor

Updated: 6:38 a.m. CT July 26, 2007

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Spoiler alert: This story reveals some key plot points in the final Harry Potter book. So if you've haven't finished the book, J.K. Rowling asks that you not read this story.

If you found the epilogue of "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" rather vague, then J.K. Rowling achieved her goal.

The author was shooting for "nebulous," something "poetic." She wanted the readers to feel as if they were looking at Platform 9 through the mist, unable to make out exactly who was there and who was not.

"I do, of course, have that information for you, should you require it," she told TODAY's Meredith Vieira rather coyly in her first interview since fans got their hands on the final book.
Ummm … yes, please!

Rowling said her original epilogue was "a lot more detailed," including the name of every child born to the Weasley clan in the past 19 years. (Victoire, who was snogging Teddy — Lupin and Tonks' son — is Bill and Fleur's eldest.)

"But it didn't work very well as a piece of writing," Rowling said. "It felt very much that I had crowbarred in every bit of information I could … In a novel you have to resist the urge to tell everything."

But now that the seventh and final novel is in the hands of her adoring public, Rowling no longer has to hold back any information about Harry Potter from her fans. And when 14 fans crowded around her in Edinburgh Castle in Scotland earlier this week as part of TODAY's interview, Rowling was more than willing to share her thoughts about what Harry and his friends are up to now.

Harry, Ron and Hermione
We know that Harry marries Ginny and has three kids, essentially, as Rowling explains, creating the family and the peace and calm he never had as a child.

As for his occupation, Harry, along with Ron, is working at the Auror Department at the Ministry of Magic. After all these years, Harry is now the department head.

"Harry and Ron utterly revolutionized the Auror Department," Rowling said. "They are now the experts. It doesn't matter how old they are or what else they've done."

Meanwhile, Hermione, Ron's wife, is "pretty high up" in the Department of Magical Law Enforcement, despite laughing at the idea of becoming a lawyer in "Deathly Hallows."

"I would imagine that her brainpower and her knowledge of how the Dark Arts operate would really give her a sound grounding," Rowling said.

Harry, Ron and Hermione don't join the same Ministry of Magic they had been at odds with for years; they revolutionize it and the ministry evolves into a "really good place to be."

"They made a new world," Rowling said.

The wizarding naturalist
Luna Lovegood, the eccentric Ravenclaw who was fascinated with Crumple-Horned Snorkacks and Umgubular Slashkilters, continues to march to the beat of her own drum.

"I think that Luna is now traveling the world looking for various mad creatures," Rowling said. "She's a naturalist, whatever the wizarding equivalent of that is."

Luna comes to see the truth about her father, eventually acknowledging there are some creatures that don't exist.

"But I do think that she's so open-minded and just an incredible person that she probably would be uncovering things that no one's ever seen before," Rowling said.

Luna and Neville Longbottom?
It's possible Luna has also found love with another member of the D.A.

When she was first asked about the possibility of Luna hooking up with Neville Longbottom several years ago, Rowling's response was "Definitely not." But as time passed and she watched her characters mature, Rowling started to "feel a bit of a pull" between the unlikely pair.

Ultimately, Rowling left the question of their relationship open at the end of the book because doing otherwise "felt too neat."

Mr. and Mrs. Longbottom: "The damage is done."

There is no chance, however, that Neville's parents, who were tortured into madness by Bellatrix Lestrange, ever left St. Mungo's Hospital for Magical Maladies.

"I know people really wanted some hope for that, and I can quite see why because, in a way, what happens to Neville's parents is even worse than what happened to Harry's parents," Rowling said. "The damage that is done, in some cases with very dark magic, is done permanently."

Photos by Andrew Kandel for TODAYshow.com

Rowling said Neville finds happiness in his grandmother's acceptance of him as a gifted wizard and as the new herbology professor at Hogwarts.

The fate of Hogwarts
Nineteen years after the Battle of Hogwarts, the school for witchcraft and wizardry is led by an entirely new headmaster ("McGonagall was really getting on a bit") as well as a new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. That position is now as safe as the other teaching posts at Hogwarts, since Voldemort's death broke the jinx that kept a Defense Against the Dark Arts professor from remaining for more than a year.

While Rowling didn't clarify whether Harry, Ron and Hermione ever return to school to finish their seventh year, she did say she could see Harry popping up every now and again to give the "odd talk" on Defense Against the Dark Arts.

More details to come?
Rowling said she may eventually reveal more details in a Harry Potter encyclopedia, but even then, it will never be enough to satisfy the most ardent of her fans.

"I'm dealing with a level of obsession in some of my fans that will not rest until they know the middle names of Harry's great-great-grandparents," she said. Not that she's discouraging the Potter devotion!

"I love it," she said. "I'm all for that."

thnx a million billion trillion......thnxxx a looooot...i was jst w8n 4 dis......it made many of my questions clear but dere r stll questin...like wat abt cho,patin twins,oder weaslys n mny more...still dis article is wonderful.....!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by: daisyUSA

Even though it was projected in earlier editions that DD wisest wizard of his time & greatest. But when book 7 started and chapt2 started talking about DD history I knew this book will revolve more around DD and even though as readers we also had our doubts & surprises about DD ...but in end when harry was digging dobby's grave he made his choice to believe in DD & his tasks as hermoine said "what other choice do we have than to believe in DD"...and that is when Harry realised that his task is to find horcuxes & not hollows ....that was awsome turn of events.

okok got ur points.....i no DD was gr8 i min r8er dan ne1 in d wrld.....okies......DD REALLY DID D RITE THNG....got it....

Originally posted by: lucky_lakshmi

There is no chance that Grindelwald DIDNOT duel Dumbledore with The Elder Wand. HGe had the Elder Wand in hand, he feared Dumbledore...in fact the only man he feared was Dumbledore---so do u think he is foolish enough to think that he can defeat DD without the Elder Wand?😕

Grindelwald---STOLE in Elder Wand from Gregerovitch and stunned him at the time thereby defeating him and he did become the owner. N then he passed it to Dumbledore.

anyways....

another doubt..I was just thinking--Its said that no spell or charm works on a person under the Invisibility Cloak...Haary was using the Invisibility cloak when Dumbledore stuinned him just before his death in book 6....😕

hey if u say that Gindelwald duelled DD with the Elder Wand then the question arises how did he got defeated? i mean as said above Elder Wand was unbeatable and had Grindelwald duelled with that his victory was invincible how so ever great a wizard DD might have been he couldnt have beatne the Elder Wand...so i dont see any other justification than the fact that Grindelwald didn't duel with the Elder Wand at all...or else...there is that Reeta skeater's version that Grindelwald gavve his wand to DD within two mintues into the duel....but i dnt understand why would he do so coz he had no reason to fear DD if he had the unbeatable wand with him...he would have been sure of winning and hence would not hav feared DD at that time....but the very fact that he was afraid is a proof that maybe the wand wasnt with him......