Will KY2 become cliched because of MaNan? - Page 6

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion

Such a long post and I forgot what I wanted to comment. 😆

Anyways, I agree with you on few points and disagree on few others.

About showing other characters I agree they are forgotten. Initially it was more about Fab5 and Navya-Nandini than any love drama. Only Cabir's character has improved. Dhruv is forgotten by the CVs 😆 Now it looks like he doesn't have those attacks. 😆 Lolz.. Rishabh ko bhejdo, attacks aa jaayenge. 😆 Yes, it was supposed to be fab-5 and two girls story as the title montage suggest and as the articles of KY2 launch say, now it is how a bully falls in love with miss-goody-two-shoes and sacrifices his love for his buddy.

About Dhruv and Nandini's chemistry. They always looked like brother and sister or friends. Now Dhruv's sudden blushing and all is so boring. 🥱 Hahaha, let CVs show some almost kiss scenes between them and kiss afterwards, tab bolo if they look like bro-sis..

MaNan always had chemistry. Chemistry doesn't come and go in one day. 🤣 Yah toh you have it yah phir you don't have it. 🤣 PERIOD 😛 Well, in Indian shows chemistry happens like that only, if you see pakistani shows you dont even see leads holding hands, and hug scenes are a strict no no yet you feel that chemistry, because it is ultimately in audiences' head, like what they are used to. People watching Indian shows find chemistry only like this orelse Parth being 6 feet and Niti being 5'4", chemistry was miles away.

I disagree, Nandini doesn't need Dhruv and Manik doesn't need Alya. Why should there be a third person all the time in every show. 🥱 Instead show us Fab 5 and NH3. 😊 Everytime? There were never third persons in any show, hence I want to see in this show. And if Nandini wants to make her life better with Dhruv Harshad or Shahid it is her choice, I'm saying that in real life when breakup happens people dont sit and cry for that person, they move on.

Originally posted by: .Peeves.

Tich, glad to see you here.! Its always a pleasure to read your point of view! But again I dont agree with all the points, with few I 100% do!

THIS!!

Having broken Alya and Dhruv's trust, he hadn't kept Nandini's trust either. A silly argument has come up that does Nandini really love Manik? Why didn't she trust his feelings when she made the promises of trusting him forever? Now this is the moment where you have to keep yourself in Nandini's shoes. A guy whom you have hated so much, suddenly shows his physical attraction towards you in missed kiss attempts and then suddenly becomes nice to you, and after a drunken sequence you fall in love with him, knowing of his breakup you start and affair with him and kiss him and suddenly the next day you hear it was all a farce, a perfect betrayal - what are you supposed to do? If you fell in love with a friend or a person whom you have known for years then she may not believe any such things - but here she fell in love with an enemy and a person whom she knows barely two months out of which it has only been a week since you spoke like a human with him. How is she not supposed to believe him? Why is a woman scorned blamed for a hot dashing Byronic Hero? Why are we taking online medium as a platform to shut off our brains and rationality?

Like yes!!! This is it! How should have Nandini believed him is beyond my understanding too!

5. Show some passion for music in NH3. Showing fab-5 as the invincible band and NH3 can win only by cheating is so unreal and cliched. Whenever a new band comes there will be new-ness, people look forward to that band first and new-ness is the thing which always tops (take examples from real bollywood music - how Aashiqui-2 music broke away from stereotypes and won the audience)

^And this too!

Originally posted by: nneeiill

@TM

first of let all me tell you i am not a teenage girl and am not exclusive Manik or MaNan fan..i love the show for its content and characters...

I disagree with majority of ur points...

and I mainly do not appreciate the way you have presented or rather criticized the show

it seems like u are criticizing the show based on what u see in the forum and its fan base..why not criticize it just as a show??..understand the characters keeping aside what is happening in the forum or what kind of fanbase it has...if fanbase is teenage gals how does that matter in characterization of manik,alya or cabir in that case..i dont see the connection ???? Well it does matter, because these are the posts and tweets that influence the cvs. That is a major connection and this connection cannot be ignored.

You mentioned about Chemistry. i am appalled at your thought process..coz again here ur understanding of chemistry seems to be -what kind of fans the show has or rather how many number of fans it has..and the popularity of the actors and their ranking..what kind of logic is that??? .. well in that case you purely misunderstood. So please dont try to understand my thought process. If you are psychology student then please apply it somewhere.

You mentioned abt DABH and JA...u think they have no fans..ofc they do infact much much more than so called top shows of IF.they are top TRP garners and u think they do not have fans.???😆.they dont have chemistry..😆 They have fans and that is why they are on top, but not fans based on chemistry. but based on their characterizations and as a couple - relationship....Infact i was a big fan of a show called " Gulaal"...it had like the awesomest chemistry i had ever seen that too without intimate scenes..and guess wat it had no TRP and very less fans..so tell me how do u correlate chemistry and fans..coz this is some logic i cant understand ?? well you have said it yourself. no intimacy, so less fans. 😆 you have correlated it yourself. u think manan has chemistry coz of fans who came here coz of intimate scenes...hmm thats not right..Manik and nandi had displayed very good chemistry even without being intimate..their eyes speak a lot..they need not even stand close..but if u cant see it i guess its ur opinion and i am not gonna dig into that further..

Your major complaint is focus on MaNaN ..well yes ofc there has been but since how many days ?? i can say since they started getting more closer to each other and when the main leads are about to confess..dont u think they deserve some highlight..thats whats been happening since past two weeks..infact if u see the confession scene it was so badly executed to incorporate other characters...only thing i agree with you is they should not focus on MaNan all the time when its not needed..but past week it was peak of their love story so obvious attention 😕..can we have some patience to see how it unfolds next..?? my problem is not with last week but last two months where all the characters were at halt. (except Cabir, since ayaz is a star, so he may not have agreed to work being a statue beside the lead)

Alya n Manik - do u think they were really in love?? I dont think so. love is not determined by how many years u spent together ..just coz they were in love with 7 long yrs u think they are in love???

infact it started like some 7th standard if am right...and these kids knew what love is ?? t..it so good that atleast now they understood the reality of their relationship all thanks to nandini..even if nandini had not come in between...manik n alya never had any future..one or the other way they would have fallen apart...do u think when the accidental kiss happened..and when alya barged into nandu's room .etc etc showed her trust ???Alya was never happy in that relationship and it brought the bad in her..remember the goons she sent..it was a cheap act...but now without manik she is such a chirpy gal..now we can she smiling and bubbly and caring for her friends ..and yes she still has a hope ...for any gal it wont be easy to come out of a relationship but eventually she will...so i think her character has been well shapened out...it has seen the max growth...manik and aliya relationship was too superficial ...if manik got attracted to nandu how does that even change the truth abt alya or manik's relationship..??? thats why i said..we have to look everything from character's pov then only we can understand them.. We were not shown the journey of manik and alya, so we cannot judge it. They shared their pains, joys, had good time, shared moments, promises and much more, isn't it what people in love do. Yes, it didnt last forever that doesnt mean it wasnt there. If Nandini hadnt come they would have lived like that forever but then destiny had other plans, they had to be tested - in which both failed. But that doesnt mean they werent in love. A better look at the initial episodes and you'll know what I meant.

Coming to Manik-- Well i guess u havent understood him yet..thats all i can make out from ur posts..and i think there have been numerous posts which describes him so well so am not going to write further abt it but what i would like to say is u have to view him as a character..and not as fan gal's obsession??? coz how does that even matter as i had mentioned before???

again here u r trying to see manik from ur idealistic pov and not what manik;s. Yes whatever sacrifice he is doing is absolutely futile and wont serve any purpose..but does the character realise tht NO ??? just coz we think he should realise...should it be shown that way..this character is making a big mistake and thats how he is gonna learn..and thats what his story is about..how can u expect Manik to do what u want him to do.????? its abt him and not about fans or their views..while reading a book..do u stop it thinking..oh he should have not done that .

See, if i had agreed to most of the posts her then i wouldnt have made this post. And you are totally wrong in saying that i'm viewing him in idealistic view - if i had been viewing him in idealistic view then i would have bashed him for bullying and torturing poor fellows. I just pointed out his major flaw which no one has pointed out yet and I was surprised how everyone missed this important point and it was never mentioned - not in forum, not in show. And yes, I dont expect Manik to behave as I want it, if that is the case then I'm a writer and I can write my own fan-fictions - I'm just analysing his character and his flaws.

and about cliched ?? trust me if it was a cliched i atleast would have never watched this show..i got attracted to its non cliched treatment..but ya i understand ur fear is will it become cliched coz of MaNan fans..i hope it doesnt is all i can say..and more over every love story is similar in one or the other way..its the treatment and characterisation which makes them different...n till now its been different..MaNAn's character are well intact so do others..except for one thing -- character of Dhruv-it needs some growth..and i hope they work on it..

Well it will become cliched - like one of the member pointed out hero is first monster then romeo and then majnu and then martyr and then saint and then mogambo and then something something.. Manik has become first 3 already.. waiting for next..

Originally posted by: Rekha85

I agree with u Tich!! About Navya..Harshad...Mukthi...Cabir...!!!

Mukthi and all have so much caliber in acting in them! And they dont even utilise it!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by: Dikshi92

Thank you very much for writing this sensible post. 👏 It was very much needed in this forum now that so much confusions and chaos are going on in the show. Your post is like a reality check for a lot of us including me!! Haven't thought of the matter so deeply before and after reading your post it all makes so much more sense. The show has a lot more scopes for improvement and the CV's should really focus on things which will make the show better rather than making it cliched. And you very truly pointed it out that if we are broad minded enough to see multiple romantic pairings of the leads in a Western show we should also be able to show the same mind set while watching an Indian show. After all there's nothing like "together forever". and a little bit of freshness doesn't harm anyone!! 😊

P.S.: I want equal screen space for all too. And it's high time they show NH3 as a proper band involving in some real action. Harshad maybe a cheapster or whatever, but Navya and Nandini came to S.P.A.C.E to fulfil their dreams. So, we want to see that happen.

Originally posted by: amni375

U r right. I love MaNan story. I think it's coming out beautifully. But I would love them to explore the rest of the characters. I would love the creators of this show, explore this taboo subjects through these wonderful actors they have hired.

I want them to show us what Cabir is going thru with being gay;

I want Mukti to go thru the drug addiction and how she overcomes it.

I want Dhruv's secret illness, mystery be looked into. This angle seems very interesting and definitely sci-fi.

I want Navya Naveli to accomplish her goal; I want the creators to show us how she becomes one of the best guitarist. No running after Harshad with this lovey dovey drooling look. Show us that a simple village/town girl can accomplish her goal. Please don't make her cliche girl falling in love with a guy who does not deserve her at all.

Originally posted by: Gudakesha