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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Btw i rather like this stormy patch in Zain Aliya relationship , these kind of misunderstandings r in every marraige .


Whatever Zain said to Aliya was because of immense expectation that sprung from immense love . Only where there is love there is any kind of expectation . If there is indifference there is no expectation and hence no hurt .

Zain's pain therefore was touching and Aiya's understanding of it was that of a woman understanding it all completely but yet helpless .

Suraiyya's slap i think is for the unani medicene .



Great post Kool! Like you I am loving this side to their relationship, the episodes are intense and I love how the CVs have showed both POVs. It isn't a simple case of one is right and the other are wrong, both opposing sides have valid arguments and I noticed that during Zain's outburst it was more of seeing him in this state that hurt Aaliya. I felt bad for both.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#62
Just wanted to add in my two cents...though I preferred dormancy this week after Friday
The argument that Ayat is immature or whenceforth she has fallen so hard in love with Rizwan...

I want to explain this from two different angles.
  • One how she is different from Aliya and as such comes closer to like being Zain. This I have previously too equated.
  • Two how Rizawan has sort of made/established her life.
When youngsters fall in love, they kinda go to crazy extent. Nothing new. But Ayat did not act crazy until her engagement was stopped. A girl like Aliya would perhaps be always do the right thing by religious teaching. But not the whole world. Many go by their heart, for their loved ones, like doing something for parents, friends. For that matter, I too would first side with my party and then try to talk sense if that means considering the opposition. The contention here is that Ayat did not get sisterly support in terms of emotional affection towards her wellbeing in perfect understanding of her resulting heartbreak, but instead she got an elderly order being given to all...to Rizwan her going to be fiance, of not only putting an end to engagement, but also an order to get married to another girl. Its offbalance already to begin with... Aliya can keep aside all her love for her loved ones and do the right thing, but there are people like Zain and Ayat too who would put their loved ones above everything and later think of what's ailing next. The approach to commitment is different. Paradigm shift.

Zain supports Rizwan because they are chaddi-buddies, langotiya yaar ...as in close friends, almost like brothers. Zain also has seen even before Aliya knew that Rizwan and Ayat were getting close. Further he knew where his friend's heart was. Aliya need not know all that, nor she needs to care, except as her husband's friend. So even from that point, Aliya should have involved Zain, this has happened with your friend...what say you, how you are gonna break it? Types. That doesnt happen.

How come then Ayat who knew Rizwan only for a short time...seems so much in love with him. Point to be noted here is that, these two are not leads and lot of their story happened behind the scenes sort. To be politically correct, Rizwaan and Ayat kicked off around the same time as Aliya and Zain post Zain accident when Ayat visited BV per Suraiya plan. Seeds of his caring for her were sown right there in their first meeting when he runs to Zain to avoid what Nafeesa-Suraiya-Shazia gang were about to do and before that how he tries to cheer up Ayat. In that visit, even Ayat seems to like his friendly attention and she too offers him napkin in one of the scene. Then...comes the lost and easy time for these two, where Rizwan visits Bhopal, gets the diary and through which he and Zain get Ayat the job for her to stay back in Mumbai. It did not end there. Pretty much they had company of each other and both kept it in decent limits.

Now one cannot ignore what was going on between the two and just because intensity was not shown like Zaya are shown. They are not leads. Period. If more time was spent on them than necessary, the same Fandom would have send feedback to PH asking to cut down their scenes.

And once the declaration done...they both are blessed and lovers by all and so much more committing themselves to each other.

So in all of this, why would Ayat want to abandon or let go a person, who was always with her, other than her Jeeju? And truthfully, since BI began, how much of taking care of Ayat have we seen from Aliya? Fine she was married and gone. So then...fact is Ayat faced difficult times after her sister left and she lived through it alone and with her parents. Her first friend was her Jeeju followed by Rizwaan.

For me its so natural to see where these three bind together and why they bind to each other.

Not always head has to decide. Even heart too can decide the right thing.

This is a fight between Head and Heart. If heart explains head, it would have helped, but Aliya's intervention did not look like heart rather it was heady opposition to another opposing heady thought.

Edited by 0-SD-0 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#63
The reason I am being dormant about this track and not excited at all is that...much to my chagrin, to get the intensity and self created angst into Zaya relationship, the creators have used other supporting characters as pawns to be sacrificed for the greater good of Chess game. This is ofcourse just my grudge and downside of the drama element.

Usage of Plot devices
Rizwan untimely &unromantic proposal to Ayat...so much that BI Audience missed the point that these two could have been in love for a while. - This gets them going to Bhopal. - Anyways their engagement is ruined and now even their "supposed elopement" is not what one could have imagined.

Shazia-Nafeesa-falling in pit, Fahad rescuing Shazia and out comes Nafeesa Plotting with Gas Cylinder and later her revelations about Aliya's hard days at BV to Shabana. - It is not yet clear to me, if Nafeesa is going to avenge herself. So far, it seems, she has been doubly hurt, with the Gauhar kissa for her brother. Where is Nafeesa character headed to ? Clinical depression or is there a respite?

Grumpy introduction as Unani Doctor - I wil not whine here, as this character ha just been introduced as plot aids for Slap from Suraiyya to Aliya and to have Engagement Stop Drama as Aliya sees Gauhar at Grumpy's place.

Convenient plotting from Suraiyya. Not saying anything is better in this case.

So all of these characters aid drama for Zaya. We have romantic tiffs, talks and now emotional angst due to resentments and misgivings about expected code of conduct and the anarchic freedom pursued to achieve what one set out to obtain. In all of this, the CVs compromised a lot of Aliya's character. She really is not that stubborn or headstrong to go against Zain's advice and get Unani medicine. That was created just so that she sees Gauhar. Then she is definitely not that crazy to give medicine sneakingly, it is just to have her get slapped and her parents see it...or God knows what we have in store...
Then again Aliya is not so inconsiderate to not heed Zain's words abt not leaving the house (She once equated Zain to Khuda..so how can she go against him), the CVs wrote again something, so that she leaves again to go see Gauhar, which results in much loved comeback of intensity of angst for Zaya. However to create that angst, once again, have they not made Zain go back to where he started from...drinking.

Thing I am not liking is...the angst and resentment so created is not about complex choices one has to make, this was created out by taking characters to immature level and this is not acceptable, especially after, Zaya handled a much more highly complex issue of bailing out Zubair when all evidence was against him. Aliya used her heart then even convincing matters of head, and Zain could get her message. If Aliya could have been like that before, how could she have committed so many errors now? Its impossible and yet it was created for Aliya in the present track. And that's sad for her and all characters around her. She devolves and everyone around her gets devolved in domino effect.





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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wow this was an amazing post !! 👏👍🏼
Completely agree with what u said and I love the intensity shown in yesterday and today's episode.!!
Hats off to Harshad & Preetika for such amazing performance 👏👏
Loved ur post =)
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Posted: 11 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: .Mandy.



Same, if the spoiler is true and Suraiya slaps her then she is completely justified in doing so. Aaliya had no right to go behind their backs and give Usman medication especially when Suraiya was going to do the same. Aaliya needs to know that this could have killed Usman and if that happened she definately would have never forgiven herself.

I have nt seen the spoiler .
The spanish doc should tell this to Aalia privately since he knows suri will fire her.
He has seen MIL DIL relation the day he came to see usman.
If suri has slapped her Aalia need dat.In this only spnish doc can protect her , saying this med. has helped him to cure mamu fast.Mamu should get up soon.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: vinu127

waiting😃

woah! so finally commenting after 15 days😆😆😆
and as usual, a brilliant post on a brilliant episode👍🏼
i don't really have something to say(as usual again😆)
but each bit of the episode was perfection
and i loved Nidhi's acting too(though it was short, she was brilliant) along with HarshIka.
distress and pain is very difficult to enact and all three were too good

Suri is truely the best vamp i've seen! her IQ is too high! yeh alag baat hai that her plans always flop but that is because of the situation/ZaYa but they are always bang on -atleast on Zain's side. she exactly knows what affects her son! how i wish this knowledge was used in the right way!
I'm glad ShaLam are in the loop now. aliya needs them.
as u said, seeing this human side of our mini cute chudail is a pleasant surprise

acting Drunk is one of the MOST difficult things to do!
Absolutely! neither the voice tone is easy nor the body language!(words of experience😛)
and Harshad is a pro at it!😆so lets not get to it again n again😆i can go Harshad Harshad the whole day😛

i loved the way aliya spoke to him in the entire episode. she did not utter a word when riz, FahEsa were there but later, she spoke all that she wanted to. even when he asked her not to enter the house if she supports gauhar, her dialogues were just apt(kudos to the dialogue writer)
and last few dialogues of the episode, we all know! Zain will regret big time!
but beta zain, is that u who is talking about being taken fr granted? oh please! we all know who had taken aliya for granted N number of times! got the taste of ur own medicine?but i rather prefer not going back because i do agree with zain somewhere!
but i'm very happy that aliya knows! her decisions affect zain. she really had to know that...but will she understand? wait n watch!
the last bit is something i really liked..
zain may shoo her away and tell her he does not need her support, but finally, its her, its aliya who will support him. its just these 2! just ZaYa
and again! the medicine! i just hope rehan shuts his "i speak only truth" mouth when he comes for Eid celebrations and not blabber about the medicine and put ZaYa 's relationship in a more dangerous situation coz right now, Zain is at his vulnerable worst!

Precap, i choose to wait n watch


LOL welcome back Vinu! Glad you made it. yes all of them were great today, the episode was very well balanced out, with all the characters having perfect amount of screen space.

Definitely right now its Suraiyas winning time, I mean the villian has to have some victory to go on with their plotting right.

Harshad and Preetika nailed that scene, the emotions and the pain was bang on. Zains feelings coming out was long overdue, which I am so glad did come out. Yes not everything he uttered was acceptable but than again who can blame him or her.
Zain and Aliyah both are wrong and right in their perspectives, as soon as these two decide to put their egos aside and listen to each other they will realize that they are rooting for the same thing.

there is definitely more to how Suraiya finds out about Aliyah being the one who gave Usman the medicine, and my eyes are on gauhar as of now.
Edited by _Littles12_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: -Saheba-

As always Awesome post Zainab.
Hats off to Harshad and Preetika for delivering such a fantastic performance.
These two keep raising the bar for themselves. They keep increasing our expectations and yet somehow they always seem to go beyond what we expected.

Today I felt that everything went full circle. All the past dialogues being remembered by zaya and both of them feeling astounded and hurt that the other is not keeping their end as promised.

We knew that Zain always felt secure about his importance in Aaliya's life when she tell him things like I will never step out of this of house for even 12 years if i don't have your support. We can see that possessive nature where he always wants to be her first priority. And the fact that she sort of broke that by going against his wishes for Gauhar of all people...and after the little brainwashing that Suri did...it was enough to set him off. Ahh he said a lot of things that he shouldn't have while he was inebriated...and this is going to come back to haunt him later I'm sure..(atleast I hope so).

He was so hurt that Aaliya went against him for a woman who tried to break their marriage, and rightfully so. Zain was right Aaliya took him for granted but even he is guilty of doing the same. Zain said some extremely hurtful things to Aaliya and when he realizes the depth of how he hurt her, he will repent the same way Aaliya will. I feel so bad for both.

Aliya on the other hand should really listen to what Shabana just said to her in the hospital..Do things with your family especially with your husband's consent! Aliya is no fool...she knows that Suri hates and now by pissing off Zain she's just making things more complicated for herself.

That is the thing with Aaliya, she is being so stubborn here. I know she won't be able to forgive herself if anything were to happen to Gauhar or her child but that does not mean you should put yourself in a position where you too will be left alone. Aaliya always relied on Zain for support and today he is saying he had enough and will no longer support her, that should be a wake up call for her. Shabana and Zain's words need to impact her, she needs to see where she is going wrong and stop things from spiraling further out of control.


But like you said once these two actually calm down, sit and talk it out sensibly with their egos put aside only then it'll be alright. If not one of them has to realize what they're doing wrong and retreat,..

This is what I am interested to see, how are Zain and Aaliya going to get through this? Will Zain realize he said too much or will Aaliya realize just how much her actions have hurt Zain?

Ever since the big reveal though, I feel that the biggest issue that Zain has with this whole thing is that he believes Gauhar is lying and the baby is not Rizwan's. I wonder why someone hasn't thought of doing a DNA test!!!

That is because everyone is so hellbent on believing what they want to believe that they refuse to think logically here, all it takes is one test and all this could be settled.


Based on the spoilers, we know that there is a lot more problems to come for Aliya tomorrow..let's see how this goes. I should sit down with a box of tissue till EID now. I've cried two days in a row already.😆

Yes more problems for Aaliya but she really did bring that on herself, I am actually glad the truth about the medicine is coming out now. I believe the CVs are working on Aaliya's character here, things cannot always go her way or be done the way she wants. Aaliya is going to have to learn there are times when one has to step back no matter how good their intentions are.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Saheba exactly What M said is what I think😆Imma add my two cents too:

Aliyah is stuck either way, she wont be able to forgive herself if Gauhar is playing games with her, hence her asking Gauhar today if she is lying to her cause for her went against her family, and she wont forgive herself if something might happen to the kid. The girl is stuck both ways hence her stubborn-ness reaching the peak.

TBH, I believe Aliyah is overly selfless in which she ready to sacrifice her love too, and she think that just cause Zain supported her he will this time too. But she should have remembered the two incidents he didnt, with the khadija bhi one and the doctor one. Shes fighting herself, her family, and mostly her love the man she still cant live without. Who knows she probably dying from the inside everytime she goes against Zain and that was shown so clearly today in the drunk scene.

She does not have a choice in her opinion but to go against everyone and save Gauhars child which is Rizwans child as well.

ATM Zain is hurt cause she is supporting a person who might have harmed their relationship, shes going against her love for a person who is known for lies and her nasty games. What I am scared about what if Zain questions Aliyah: what if it wasnt Rizwan but me. Would you have sacrificed everything just to get that baby a father?

I can just say Aliyah would have done the same if it was Zain, she just would have been more devastated but she would have left him.

Now the only reason I dont want Aliyah to constantly tell Gauhar that she is going to get married to Rizwan cause thats not going to happen and she is giving hope to her, when hope gets crushed it gets ugly. Gauhar might go against her in the future to get back at Aliyah for "lying" to her and tell Suraiya that it was Aliyah who gave Usman the medicine hence the slap.

I think the slap is too much, a bit over board, yes what Aliyah did is wrong but a slap no? NO MIL should be allowed to slap her DIL Period.
Edited by _Littles12_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Amazing review Zainab 👍🏼
Harshad was seriously the show stopper today. Preetika, once again, nailed it! Their emotional scenes are always perfect!!

I really hope they consider DNA test this time, it would be better if this track is wrapped up quickly. By just not doing one DNA test in the Barkat track, the track was stretched on for exact two months!

love your dialogue selection. And yes he will regret it! I don't know what Rizwan is upto! Hope the episode brings up something good for us today as well. I'm really hopeful about this week 😊

Thank God, nobody from BV saw them when Zain was drunk. But i guess suraiya will know that's why in the precap she said to Rizwan 'Zain ki aaj jo halat hai...'
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Seeing last nite epi and the spoiler-Feel like suri and gauhur r plotting .
Zain has phoned to gauhur but he must nt have given dhamki,Gauhur has lied to Aalia
In the hospital wen she was talking to Aalia she was perfect after dat she started ha hoo.
Shazia too is feeling bad for gauhur dat she is suppose to wit her sis at dis time but suri stopped her saying Aalia will take care.
Doc medicine only gauhur knows she must have told to suri.
Now i doubt really she is prag. if so is it Riz ka baby.,
Gauhur likes Zain she will do anything for him.

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