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Posted: 11 years ago
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People will have different views and see the situation differently. Not trying to change anybody's viewpoint - but want to say:
- Jagya agreed to marry Sanchi under duress - still he should have talked to Bhairo (no use talking to Shakhers) before agreeing. He could even argued with DS and Sumitra that Sanchi has been brought up in an urban family and she will not be happy living in village. If she will not be happy - Anandi will suffer (more than if the rishta is not agreed to).

- After agreeing to this rishta, there was no effort on Jagya's side towards the relationship - even friends or acquaintances behave better than what Jagya's behaviour with Sanchi. He ignored her as much as possible (while Sanchi was imposing her presence through phone calls etc.), and at the same time had all the time for Ganga.

- He must have realised that he cannot like Sanchi and cannot be happy with her and cannot make her happy. Even after agreeing to marry - he should have shared his thoughts with Bhairo/DS or even Shiv or Anandi. If even after clarifying this - he would have been forced in this rishta - nobody could have find fault with him. But he answered to Shiv and Ira that he knows what he is doing.

- The engagement date mess also resulted in people (like me) thinking that he did not care for the rishta. People help others, but nobody will try to change date of engagement because he has to go for admission of some woman whom he is helping. He could have made arrangements (Lal Singh or some other people) to go with Ganga.

- He did not want to marry Ganga at that time - but it was funny that he (as well as all other characters) accepted that Ganga loves him just because she said she would die if something happens to Jagya (if a person risks his life for a lady, she may say such words even if she does not love him - it may be just gratitude, but Lal Singh, Anandi and Jagya construed that it was love).

- Finally, the way he broke the engagement and married Ganga was wrong.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Missesha

@ Saba, Sidra and Kikyo

The fact is that our views and perceptions on Saja angle and JaGan relationship during Saja are very different . So we are never going to come to an agreement, so I don't want to continue to the chain of threads endlessly.
I would try to explain my perception for one last time on J and why I find him and his actions wrong.
- He agreed to marry Saanchi, when he had no interest in her.
- He agreed to marry her to keep his family, but he didn't really think that if he himself is not interested in Saanchi, then will their marraige be a happy one, and will that keep Saanchi happy? He considered family's happiness but not saanchi's. As a man (with experience with two other females), he should have thought wholistically. Which he didn't
- After agreeing to marry Saanchi, he made no efforts to make her part of his life. He minimised phone calls, didn't give anything like gifts, cards etc to show he cares for Sa. In fact he turned down on Sa's advances. However, he had time, energy, money, patience and INTEREST in making Ganga happy. And he even gave gifts to Ganga from radio to saree. He did all that for her selflessly and what he did for Ganga was more than what a benefactor would do for his beneficiary. The way he behaved with Saanchi was less than what acquaintances behaved, when they were actually engaged to marry. This was unfair on Saanchi.
-His over-concerning behaviour for Ganga and no importance to saanchi was the reason of Saanchi's insecurity.
Saanchi and family knew that he was helping Ganga, but they didn't expect him to be celebrating teej with her. They didn't expect him to be cancelling his enagagement just because Ganga's admission was on that day. For J, Ganga was anyday more important than his fiance. So much, that he always looked for ways to be with her.
How is it fair to any female, that her fiance is always in look out for another woman's company?
If he was truly a man, he would have first convinced his family and then Shekhars, that he realised he loves Ganga, and he wants to cancel his engagement with Sa, becasue it would be wrong to spoil so many lives. But as always he showed he was an escapist. He got a convincing reason to break the engagement and he picked upon it.
Anyways, this is my perception, which won't change. Saanchi was truly bad, but J was equally wrong. I do not mind if you do not agree to it. We all can have our perceptions.
Just to clarify, Jagya is not the only character that I have picked faults with.
Time and again I have supported the character whenever I thought he was right and others were wrong.
I watch the show for entertainment and I come her to discuss because I enjoy. I don't come here to pick on a character.
I see these characters and their behaviour based on my perception and if they are doing something wrong that doesn't fit into my set of ideas, I point that out as wrong.
I have often faulted Anandi, more than any other character on this show, and recently I have picked on Shiv too.


Bang on post.

To me Sanchi and Jagya were both at fault. In a ways Jagya did lead on Sanchi by not clarifying his stance. Sanchi being blind to the signs Jagya was giving.

As the saying goes "Tali dono hatho sey bajti hai".


Edited by sunflower52 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This update is not a discussion thread if you want to do discussion open a topic but kindly let it go now The discussion going on here is totally irrelevant to the update Agree to disagree and end it Please
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sorry mahi just one last reply
Esha agree to disagree Answer to your post is already given by someone and i already given and i don't find any answer from you These are baseless accusations for me not justified
yes Jagya was at fault first he should have said GET LOST to Anandi when she came to bully him for marriage The mess started from here then he should have firmly put his foot down when the likes of DS and Sumi were bullying him to accept proposal of Sanchi He should have said i am not goat to be sacrificed for Anandi ka sasra If you want to disown me do it but I WILL NEVER AGREE FOR THIS PROPOSAL These were his faults His faults were he was sacrificing his happiness for sake of others who all were selfish fulfilling their personal benefits none was really bothered about him that was his fault I got it

I am kind of fed up of reading Jagya never did any effort towards relationship I want to know how many dates , how many phone calls are to be done to show a person is trying? how many ? while in serial it was clearly shown he did take interest in her activities , her likes and dislikes , even was in pleasant mood with her playing pranks He went to Udaipur when invited by Ira and brought gifts for whole family , went on date with Sanchi seriously what more is needed He was fiancee not husband I don't believe in Indian culture apart from this fiancees do even more The woman's demands were suffocating too much More than he could give She would touch him without his permission , kiss him , wants to dominate him his clothes everything He kept saying to himself he is at fault he should adjust with her but this woman crossed all lines She even broke the last hope so how he would be singing her gungaan he broke the engagement without even blaming her That was his goodness but people call him bad for it ? Strange

Singhs., Anandi ,Shekhars had pushed Jagya in that situation whatever he did he get bashed Nothing was hidden to anyone Sanchi cheated him big time She assured him i will give you time to love me but she didn't give She and the likes of Ira knew Ganga is like a part of family They have no problem They cheated later Nothing was hidden from anyone

His action of marrying Ganga might be done in hurry but it was his mother's fault She instigated him so much


Coming to Ganga i don't find it funny but it was assumed by her action seeing her restlessness she does consider him very close to her , some one very dear to her thats why she was saying i will die if anything happened to him whose blame is put me it happened because of her People don't get so restless for anyone but someone who is indeed very close to her whats funny in here


Anyways anyone can assume the way he wants i have nothing to say more but the blames going over board Somethings are clearly shown in serial even that is denied It is very strange to me

Edited by kikyo - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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yes the saying goes Taali dono haathon sai bajti hai Jagya shamelessly came to beg to Shekhars about Sanchi's proposal and demanded answer with in one night thus pressurizing poor Shekhars Shekhars were clean Jagya pressurized his family he wants to marry Sanchi Singhs were clean Poor Singhs Jagya was creating hungama in house he wants to marry Sanchi as fast as he can Sumitra was poor soul Jagya hid Sanchi's truths not Anandi Poor Anandi Jagya was blind towards Sanchi not Shiv who almost knew everything but did nothing instead blindly supporting his bachi Poor Shiv
All fault was Jagya's for leading Sanchi No one forced him for it , every one gave him free choice Aise hi he was worried i am bashed whatever i do same was happening but it was OK All his fault rest for doodh k dhulay hoe He created all circumstances they were not these people's production

i agree with Jia Jagya was wrong When the likes of Sumi and DS were doing drama he should have packed his bags and left the house telling them Keep washing feet of Anandi ka sasra to keep Anandi happy i won't sacrifice my happiness for sake of your ladoo Anandi Yes he was at fault i got it Poor victim Sanchi , Shekhars and AnSh



Edited by sidra08 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Jagya celebrated Teej with Ganga ? I think he was clueless Ganga keeps vrat or not because she had been divorced and he didnt know Sanchi kept vrat for him so seriously at least put one blame keeping facts of serial ?

The radio gift he brought for Ganga much before Sanchi naming creature became his fiancee or even he had nightmare this woman will love me

He gave saree gift to her If he went to Mangalore didn't he come to Udaipur ? so seriously the blames are going over my head Ganga's company would keep him happy because she would not dominate him unlike Sanchi Otherwise failed to understand where he sided with Ganga more than Sanchi infact he tried to distance himself from Ganga too Ganga came to know much later than Sanchi he went to Mumbai for MS if Sanchi cheated him blame is on head he cheated her ????

Edited by sidra08 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@puja,

He tried to argue the moment he got to know the proposal.He stopped when Dadisa said it was about Anandi's happiness.Ds's word was like khabardor if you say no to them,Anandi has got her happiness back after a long time,don't you dare to ruin that.A person like Jagya who was filled with guilt that he was the reason of Anandi's sorrows and secondly his choice turned to be very bad compared to Anandi,how will he say that I will not be able to adjust with Sanchi.They will ask him to try.He was saying he will not marry but what DS did?She asked Anandi to talk to him because she knew only Anandi is the perosn who can ask Jagya anything and Jagya will do that.He said to Anandi,he is not ready for marriage,but what Anandi did,told him that he never cares about his family,he is selfish,he is not changed.A person who is trying to prove especially to his family that he is changed now will definitely do what Jagya did to make his family happy even though he was not agreeing with them.My point is whenever he tried to go against them they including Anandi came and blamed him bringing his past.

He was not happy with the relation,he was trying to cope up only because his family used the Anandi card then what effort he will make.He tried his level best,he was listening whatever Sanchi asked him to do.He was behaving all normal and even played a prank with injection but Sanchi's expection was something else.He was like a zombie,roaming here and there.That girl got impressed by the calm nature of Jagya and then started trying to change him by giving him to wear red Jacket and bringing him pink cake.I don't know whether in arrange marriage people calls five six times a day or not.So will not discuss on that.

First of all Jagya as a character is like I have said this and I will do this.The plan of him taking Ganga to Manglore was planned long back.His engagement was not important for him because he was not understanding the urgency of the engagement.Secondly he was not very excited about the whole marriage thing so the more late the engagement will happen,the more he will get time to accept it.For him Ganga's first day at Manglore was important because he promised her.The proposal was accepted and engagement could have been done be done anyday in his opinion.He never said how will Ganga manage,he only wanted to go with them,later he agreed to the arrangement of Ghanshyam kaka,why will he ask Lal Singh,the plan was made long back.He wanted to see everything is fine or not.He had no feelings for Ganga so he was not getting why people are behaving like that.If he is clear within himself why will he accept people's accusation!

And about all including him believing that Ganga is in love then Lal Singh said the way she said that anyone will understand that she loves Jagya.Anandi believed it and then Jagya also.I don't think anyone will start holding the doctors feet to plea on saving the person who saved ones life.But even then if its not convincing then its Lal Singhs fault for spreading that rumour.

The way he broke the engagement was wrong and he accepted it but it was too late,he did his best and didn't accused Sanchi's third class mentality,about In laws and traditions.And again the way he married Ganga might be wrong not fully but Sumitra crossed her limits and he was compelled to marry Ganga.Its better to marry the person you love other than hearing Galigaloj for that person from one's own mother.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mahi12

This update is not a discussion thread if you want to do discussion open a topic but kindly let it go now The discussion going on here is totally irrelevant to the update Agree to disagree and end it Please


I agree, this should be discussed in separate thread and so it is the end from my side (will reply to the points raised by other members if the same is posted in appropriate thread) even though people continue to argue here.

Considering the likes on previous page, perhaps posts favouring Jagya are relevant to this thread
Edited by SPuja - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SPuja


I agree, this should be discussed in separate thread and so it is the end from my side (will reply to the points raised by other members if the same is posted in appropriate thread) even though people continue to argue here.

Considering the likes on previous page, perhaps posts favouring Jagya are relevant to this thread

i by mistake liked them i only liked Jia's post because she said this is her last reply I was scrolling down through tablet and like button was hit but i guess i said neutrally why do people jump on me i am biased ? Previously some one said same to me i am giving some special favors to Jagya fans ?Did i stop you not to do criticism of Jagya the way you want Did i take anyone's name Puja , Esha Rohini your comments are irrelevant to the update i said to everyone This update will be closed soon as soon as moderator saw it is not closed and you will hanged in the middle in your discussion so better to open a thread All the discussion going on here it has indeed diverted to something else

and please next time before objecting me consider my comment i said to everyone I never stopped any particular person i will like a post with which i agree not with which i don't agree There is no pressure on me The last posts i didn't even read they were by mistake hit by me so i hope its clear I didn't favored anyone
Edited by mahi12 - 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mahi12

i by mistake liked them i only liked Jia's post because she said this is her last reply I was scrolling down through tablet and like button was hit but i guess i said neutrally why do people jump on me i am biased ? Previously some one said same to me Did i stop you not to do criticism of Jagya the way you want Did i take anyone's name Puja , Esha Rohini your comments are against the update i said to everyone This update will be closed soon and you will hanged in the middle in your discussion so better to open a thread

and please next time before objecting me consider my comment i said to everyone I never stopped any particular person i will like a post with which i agree not with which i don't agree There is no pressure on me The last posts i didn't even read they were by mistake hit by me

anyone who will even by mistake like a post favoring Jagya might be criticized because favoring Jagya i guess is not allowed here I agree ,you said to everyone
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