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LostTraveller

@LostTraveller

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Posted: 12 years ago

#71

Originally posted by: _charu_

in the context of the story Chakku, this is what he has been doing, from the time he got okay...he has forcefully kept Madhu there..therez nothing romantic about this couple right now, as rightfully said by Madhu...obviously, we love them so we r biased .. we don't find any fault in Raja..

Sorry to butt in...but the fact that he fought with tauji over the insult to his lugai...and yet in the next frame he tried to romance her actually proves how emotionally disconnected Raja is from Rani. He can avenge her insult but he fails to comfort her pain.

And who says we dont find any fault with Raja...he is loaded with faults...as is JM...the difference is some try to watch without justifying each every step of these 2 characters...jaisey har episode koi exam hai jismein Raja/JM ko pass kar wana hai.

And coming to JM...JM kahin se bhi so called Mahaan nahin hai...She is HUMANE...there is a difference...usse dard hota hai , koi usse hurt karta hai toh she reacts and retaliates and wants justice ...not I said justice and not revenge...lekin at the same time she cannot simply keep quiet and watch someone brutalized to death !

Its basic humanity...If we were standing and watching a man beaten to death suddenly...would we not interfere ? would we keep quiet and watch someone get killed ? nahin na ! Toh JM na aisa kaunsa bada mahaan kaam kiya ? She reacted like any educated human being.

And frankly no one ever came forward and called her Mahaan when she was protecting Raju and doing everything to make him well...and THAT was a very noble deed...jab itne achche kaam ke liye no one ever called her mahaan, lets please stop this charade of calling her mahaan whenever she acts like a human being. I find it extremely hilarious. 🥱

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Charu

@Krinya

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Posted: 12 years ago

#72

Originally posted by: -Evil-Defiance-
[] Sorry to butt in...but the fact that he fought with tauji over the insult to his lugai...and yet in the next frame he tried to romance her actually proves how emotionally disconnected Raja is from Rani. He can avenge her insult but he fails to comfort her pain.

And who says we dont find any fault with Raja...he is loaded with faults...as is JM...the difference is some try to watch without justifying each every step of these 2 characters...jaisey har episode koi exam hai jismein Raja/JM ko pass kar wana hai.

i get u Anki..we r only discussing the characters bec we love them..did we bother to dissect AK?

but saying tht Madhu "DESERVED" the slap ticked me off..🤢

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LostTraveller

@LostTraveller

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Posted: 12 years ago

#73

JM's POV.

Yayy! Aagayi meri achhi wali Sistar

There are multiple ways to look at it... just put yourself in her shoes. If you see someone you live with beating a person to death, after you have seen them sneaking out at the dead of the night with a loaded gun, right in front of you and you know you may make a difference .. may be able to stop him from doing so.. won't you try to stop him? Raja is the only person she knows in the household. And she knows Raja can be ready to kill anyone for the smallest of reasons.. that day he was going to kill those goons just because they touched her.. she stopped him that day as well na? And he did stop... She did the same here... she acted on her reflex...

Simply we need to ask ourselves one tiny question...If we saw a man suddenly being beaten savagely to death, would we keep quiet and stand aside or would we interfere?

Yaha koi mahaanta nahin ho rahi. This is basic humanity.
JM is in no way Mahaan. I find it funny why people have this silly misconception.

JM is humane not Mahaan. There is a difference. Meaning - JM believes in humanity and not social service.
If people do not call her Mahaan for taking care of Raju...a very noble deed...they have no right to call her mahaan for simply standing up against a crime.

It is also because of the fact that she may call him jungli.. insensitive... idiot... janwar.. and what not.. but he is still her husband.. she begs him to leave her.. let her go... she really wants to go.. but she knows till the time she is living with him.. till the time he lets her go.. they are husband and wife... that's why she puts on sindoor.. that is why that day she obeyed Raja when he asked her not to tell anyone that he left her a note... she even took up that test but never disobeyed him... that's why she put the pallu (better late than never..) ... when she was rushing to stop Raja...

Hmmm...I agree that deep down she knows she is married...and that is why she puts on the sindoor etc...she cant disrespect that sacred bond...BUT I think she doesnt accept the changes this marriage has brought into her life so forcefully without her consent...and thus she tries to object to it.
You may also say she cares for him deep down as well.. remember she called him "Raju" in her monologue after she finished reading his note... she does run to him when in trouble (the snake scene).. she has a bond with him deep down..

Yup...Raju is the only thing she connects to w.r.t Raja...thats why she is always trying to compare the two...

It was very much in her character... and it was not something incomprehensible. You see where she is coming from.. that day when Raju was beating AK.. she was rooting to beat the man up because AK abused Raju .. mistreated him as a mentally challenged person.. and slapped JM thinking there is no one to stand up for her... she was rooting for her husband to beat him up... not to kill him.. otherwise she wouldn't have felt disgusted when he killed him without any trace of remorse! She is shook up after AK's murder... she hasn't really got over it! Also it was Raju... who was not capable of hurting anyone severely.. and this is Raja who has the tendency to kill anyone when angry.. big difference there. And anyway as I said even the situation was very different from this...

Lets not forget JM pulled Raju away herself after it became too much of AK beating by Raju...she was rooting for the bad guy who slapped her to be punished not killed.

About Bhanu .. why she didn't say anything... well there is a difference between humiliating someone and beating someone to death! She did feel uncomfortable at that point but she was seconds before insulted in front of the entire clan herself.. who was actually cheering for Bhanu when he was misbehaving with her... here it shows clearly that she is not mahaan! You cannot put that tag on her! She is humane! A good person yes... but not mahaan!

Again Bhanu publicly humiliated her...she had a right to demand satisfaction and so she kept quiet and watched Raja ...also its to be noted Raja's agenda was to humiliate Bhanu mainly...this again proves that JM is human and not an all-forgiving soul...kisi bhi normal insaan ke jaise she also wanted her humiliation to be answered in kind.
Since it was never shown Raja tried to seriously kill Bhanu...we cannot predict how JM would react. Its a moot point so we cannot simply decide what JM would or would not do. Chhod do.

Didn't she voice her disgust when Dauji was torturing that widow? She did na? That's exactly who she is! She cannot stand violence! That is why she is so misfit in Raja's world! She hasn't even slapped anyone till date! It is in her character to abhor violence... And Raja ko sirf gun ki boli ati hai .. as he said..And that is why she calls him jungli only.. because of his love for violence and chauvinistic ways!

Yup! on the very first day in the village, she protested for Faguni...that is her nature...tab toh kisi ne iss forum mein awaz nahin uthayi ...about women abuse etc etc...no one even applauded JM for standing up for Faguni...most were busy applauding Raja's "brave" deed of defending his wife which is his duty ! Tab toh JM Mahaan nahin hui...tab toh she did no social service...toh why now? 😆

Though she is wrong here.. because that is all she sees in him.. it happens na.. when you dislike someone you dislike everything about them.. so she doesn't see his love.. she is insensitive to his feelings at this point.. but so is he... he protects her.. loves her.. but he doesn't really understand or connect with her emotionally... he thought by humiliating Bhanu in the party he cleared the matter once and for all.. he doesn't see that till then the damage was done.. she was already humiliated and hurt publicly... he only balanced it out by humiliating Bhanu.. he didn't erase her pain.. he comes and drools on her.. trying to get close to her... so she thinks his love is shallow... obviously there is a disconnect between the two emotionally.. they are at two very different places.. it is necessary.. though it won't be easy for them to find a middle ground..

Agree sis...right now the fact that Raja is violent and chauvinistic and regressive has erased all his good qualities to JM...she is not seeing beyond that macho thing...and Raja is not helping matters at all...he has no idea about dealing with emotions at all...and his chauvinistic mentalities and violent upbringing are destroying everything he tries to do ...

I am just explaining you JM's point of view as you asked about her, not talking about Raja's POV. I see both JM's and Raja's POVs... and I seriously cannot love them both enough! They are so humane, real and flawed! I love how the characters are developing this season!

Yup this was JM...I love them both a lot too. They have their own faults ...this is a grey love story...with an antihero and not a Mills and Boons type Hero !...I am enjoying the growth of these 2 characters and their story...I am a fan of the CVs for this awesome setup and characters in the story !

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ShinSegi

@Befikre

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Posted: 12 years ago

#74

@Maria - I agree with you. You explained her POV really well😆 Thanks.

@charu - Who said I am biased towards Raja?😆 I freaking called him an MCP and all gande wale naam when he was clicking pics of Rani. I can be biased towards my favourite actors, but if I want to enjoy a love story, I look from the POV of both the characters😛

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LostTraveller

@LostTraveller

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Posted: 12 years ago

#75

Originally posted by: _charu_

i get u Anki..we r only discussing the characters bec we love them..did we bother to dissect AK?

but saying tht Madhu "DESERVED" the slap ticked me off..🤢

yes...but charu I have only ever seen a partial dissection of their characters ...ek event hoti hai toh baaki past ke events get moulded according to that...yeh kaunsi Modified Ghajini effect hai pata nahin .
It ticked me off too ...there can be NO justification for Raja's action...he is totally at fault here...toh kya hua if his wife interfered...agar uski maa hoti toh would he have slapped her as well ? Nahin na ! Toh bas yeh partiality kyun ?

Raja ne galti ki...we cannot write it off as his rage...the truth is he has no control over his violent tendencies ! Woh jungle ka jungli sher zaroor hai...but if he doesnt learn to leash his wildness when needed...yeh jungli khud apna jungle destroy kar daalega...and that is what he is doing...threatening to kill his sister;s hubby, threats of cut off tongue and head to JM, then the near strangling and now the slap.

He is an ANTIHERO...yeh koi MIlls and Boons ka simple angry young man nahin jo ek chapter mein gussa karega aur next chapter mein sorry bolega🤢...we have to watch his gradual development in this grey love story. Warna agar he is so perfect as he is, toh story kahaan se aage badhegi ? 😆

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Maria

@Valar.Morghulis

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Posted: 12 years ago

#76

@Chakku- Pleasure is all mine! Always a nice feeling to know people agree with you. 😆

@Anki- Yar kahan kahan reply karun tumhain? Bakhsh do mujh lazy insaan ko! 😆 Waisay I love all your comments! 😳

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LostTraveller

@LostTraveller

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Posted: 12 years ago

#77

Originally posted by: Valar.Morghulis

@Anki- Yar kahan kahan reply karun tumhain? Bakhsh do mujh lazy insaan ko! 😆 Waisay I love all your comments! 😳

Achcha chhod...jaane diya 😛
Waisey bhi tere replies mujhe "replies" kam aur meri copy zyada lagti hai 🤪
Nakalchi 😛

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Maria

@Valar.Morghulis

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Posted: 12 years ago

#78

Originally posted by: -Evil-Defiance-
Achcha chhod...jaane diya 😛
Waisey bhi tere replies mujhe "replies" kam aur meri copy zyada lagti hai 🤪
Nakalchi 😛

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Okay ab I won't reply to you! It's not my fault if we share the same thought process!

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LostTraveller

@LostTraveller

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Posted: 12 years ago

#79

Originally posted by: Valar.Morghulis

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Okay ab I won't reply to you! It's not my fault if we share the same thought process!

Aur Nautanki bhi
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Niki_cool

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Posted: 12 years ago

#80

Maria and Ankita, You both explain so well 👏

Mai bhi kho gayi tumhare essays mein 🤔🤣

Seriously such a good dissection of the characters, Maan gaye 👏

This is grey love story and I am so glad that both of them are Imperfect and have their own vulnerabilities and flaws 😎

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