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Posted: 12 years ago
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Mansi, one more reason I do not see kidnapping is because, how will Jalal spare Shariff alive, who tried to kidnap a Mughal Begum?? After all it is about Mughal sultanate's izzat and he would chop the hands of the person who tried to touch her and will he forgive Shariffuddin again for such crime? As he was pardoned 3 or 4 times right?
P.S- I am waiting for the day, how he will punish the guy who pulled Jo's hands in the jail😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
#12
Dear Mansi,


Wonderful analysis..I was eagerly awaiting your take on yesterdays episode for future predictions.Your non-MU theory is good but here is what I feel

MU is bound to happen because the CVs want to stretch the serial as much as they can. Not that its their fault.They have been told to do so.. Now.. if things work out smoothly between our lead pairs .what will they show next..If they end all the tracks so soon...our show will end soon.. so MU is bound to happen.

It might be that Jodha will definitely confess that she met Sujamal..and she might even try to convince Jalal..but Jalal will be hurt and angry as for him Sujamal is a traitor and Jodha has met him ..Now even if Jodha tells Jalal that Sujamal has actually saved his life ... even then...the question remains why did Jodha try to hide her meeting with Sujamal in first place?That time Sujamal was an enemy for Jalal who had captured Mewat and killed his relatives... Jodha knew Suja was in Agra and yet she did not disclose this to Jalal.. He is not only enemy of Jalal but also of Bharmal... so now she will be called a traitor from both sides... I think Jalal will ask Bharmal to decide what punishment be meted out to JOdha... thats why I feel Bharmal is still lingering in Agra???

But Jodha should at least tell Jalal that she met Sujamal only out of concern for his life... and thats why earlier also she met Sharifuddin in Jail ...in spite of knowing that it was against law... so here also she can go any length to save Jalal's life... So though Jalal may understand her concern for his life... which need not prove again .. he ,as a king will declare her traitor and pack her off to Amer...

Again kidnapping track has to happen... so that SHariifs truth is out and Sujamal and Jalal have to meet .. to save Jodha

Hey Bhagwaan...itnaa drama ... atleast CVs don't drag this track like Ben track... already we are so depressed by this impending MU... TRPS to will go down ...once our Ja-JO are separated for long time... ...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi Mansi,

Nice theories 👏
We all Akdha fans do not want any MU and hope there will be no MU.

Even if Jalal do not hear what Jodha is talking, i feel he do not send her to Amer like film. He may enquire with Jodha who was the person & Jodha may reply him that he made apman on her love by doubting her. (during boatride she already said it will be apman to her prem etc...) She will do all the possible to prove on Sujamal with that letter to Atga etc...

I am not sure which way will be done in the serial.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: albakry


I hope you are right but I am fearing a MU which will finally bring love confession

Whatever the MU if it results in a better state of love for Jo-Ja, that's OK I suppose, so long as the track doesn't stretch endlessly. Also there is no question of banishment of Jodha to Amer I think because it appears that the movie was not historically correct on this poitnt. See Abhay's posts on this issue, he categorically states Jodha was never sent back to Amer as a result of MU.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice analysis. After reading so many posts about why there will be no MU, I feel little hopeful but I am still cautious and weary of MU. As long as Jalal trusts Jodha and does not put her into nazarbandi again or pack off to amer (i have read on histroy she was not packed off to amer so let's hope they follow history) I am ok. Jodha and jalal can argue/fight about sujamal but I am hoping they all three work together to find real culprit. I am getting tired of MA. she needs to go. Sharif and BB needs to move too. And why did not Moti told Jodha that MA read the leaf?
I just hope they do not drag this more than 1 or 2 weeks at most. I always used to be happy about one fact in JA that tracks did not last more than 2 weeks but after Benazir- 2 month torturous track; now, I am not even sure how long this will last.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Mansi, nothing much to say. Even if Jalal doesn't misunderstand her and doubt her charecter, he is bound to get suspecious of her meeting Sujamal in the dead of the night. he will be sure that the person had to be Sujamal even before she needs to spell it. He will not question her whom did she met, he will wuestion her why did she meet his enemy and helped him to flee?
There is no need for some justification from Jodha to tell the man was her brother as he very well knew her charecter and how pure she is. When she doesn't allow her leaglly wedded husband to touch her with lust, she will burn someone else, if he ever try to get close to her. So if the person is as close as to hold her hands while talking, it has to be some one who knew her as child and brought her up with much care and affection.
he will not only be hurt for her trusting him to share her sorrow but he will be raged to know that she had disobeyed his words and went against him and met his enemy. As a Mughal queen, it was her duty to get him (Sujamal) arrested and then she could have advocated on his innocence, If she were too sure about her brother. He need not have to send her back to AMer, if he chose to ignore her for some time, that will be a killing moment for Jodha.
What I don't understand and also you missed is the fact that, how did it slipped from Moti's mind that maham had opened that flower packet and had been viewing it for a while. Why it didn't strike her that Maham would have read Sujamal's letter on the leaves????? Why she didn't inform this to Jodha when she informed her about Maham screeing each and every content which is crossing the gates?????? And how on the earth the letters remain intact, not even a single smudged charecter, whe it was written using the wet chandan and immediately wrapped back on teh flowers???????????? What drier did Sujamal used so that the letters remained well written, that too when he wrote that standing in the temple during the aarti, and without a writing pad?Wouldn't it looked natural, if some charecters were smudged and hence there would have been some MU in Maham's mind?
I am damn sure, if at all Sujamal's letter comes to light in the open DEK, then it will reveal the fact that Jalal can't read and depend on someone to read & write his letters or Paigam's. This might ring a bell of Alarm in Jodha ... and should we expect her letter also come out to teh light. It had been in dark for quite a long time. If Sujamal's letter to Jodha comes to light, or she herself might bring that letter to the open court to prove her point that her brother was & is innocent and she might ask for the other letter Suja had written to Atga Khan. The handwriting will match and thus will relieve Sujamal and Jodha from the hanging axe but this will happen only if Jalal possess some patience and think rationally.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cleo12345

You are right...very average episode.


I agree that there will be no major MU...unless they choose to let go of all logic ( which can't be ruled out but still unlikely). I also agree with you that this is the begining of MA/ AK downfall.

The best part ...we got to watch Sujamal for more that 30secs during a 'Sujamal track' episode. It annoys me to no limits when below average actresses playing Javeda and new Moti get more screen space than the person who is the backbone of the track ...or the two leads. . You are right about MA...it is judgement time...she started off as an excellent villain ( I used to look forward to her scenes) but she is an eye sore now. I fast forward her scences..The CVs really need to show some mercy and give us a break from MA, Rukaiya,Moti and Javeda for a few episodes.
I totally agree with you cello, this overuse of maham and Ruq has actually spoilt their potential as villains. See now we are fed up with them. Tell me what original sentence has Maham spoken over the last 25 episodes. Its again and again the same anti-Jodha dialogue of how far Jodha has ingratiated herself with Jalal. And Ruq re-iterates this "No one can take Jalal from me" endlessly. As for Javeeda her jokes are hardly laughable about! Anyway its nearing 200 episodes and we need a new joker and some new villains!

Btw, we found out two things about Atgah sahib
He is bald...never saw him without that Mughal cap.
He is not overweight...just wears a lot of padding😆...dagger was at least 6 inches into his back...you could barely see the Blade...yet it was maamuli chot.
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 And we had bare body Atga which only JijiAnga could have found hot!

I like the way you have explained how AK will get financially frustrated. High time...both MA and Ak have had enough life extensions. Moreover, MA is no longer a trp magnet...infact now she is hurting the show.
I think if Adham is killed eventually by throwing him from the terrace to the ground below, some people bigger than him have to be employed. Or rather, at least six burly men if they have to heave and throw him over twice as in the movie. So far I have seen only very puny sipahis in Jalal's army! Does he not feed them well? Each one is tinier than the other!

Poor Sujamal is getting bashed a lot these days as most suspect that his presence may potentially cause a MU between the leads...you know what...I'll chose the MU over any more inhumane treatment of this character.

He is perfectly justified in asking for his right. Bharmal cheated him. And he is deserving too...he captured Mewat from the mighty Mughals with a small army of Bheels and some soilders from Jodhpur. And obviously Bharmal was not able to recapture Mewat from him.

I rarely criticize Jalal but it was ridiculous when he accused Sujamal of ' Zameen ke liye Jang' ... What is Jalal doing? Is Hindustan his ancestral property? ...no...so if his battles are justified, so are Sujamal's. ' Peeth ke peeche war'...big deal...he just called himself ' veheshi' during battles...didnt he say, mohabbat aur Jung mien sub jaayaz hai...it is ok to marry a women against her wishes for political ambitions...but 'Peeth ke peeche waar' is unpardonable? ...does he keep a track on how his soilders kill people? ...how can he expect Sujamal to?

Sujamal is criticized for ...' on one hand he promised not to harm his sister's suhaag...then why did he attack Mewat?...my question for these critics...why are these morals and principles only applicable to Sujamal and not Jalal or Bharmal. Jalal still has has control on Amer. Ameris fight wars for him...did he consider letting go of his ambition and not use them to his benefit? Bharmal accused Sujamal of getting Mughal help to recapture Amer...and what did Bharmal do? ...give his daughter in exchange for his sons and kingdom. So, if everything is fair in love and war, why should Sujamal be the only one criticized here.

He risked his life to come and check on Jodha...if he was really that 'land hungry' , he would have stayed back in Mewat to ensure that they don't lose it to Mughals or Ameris...but, his priority was checking on his sister. Bharlmal was 'vyathith' but did not bother to come and check on his daughter. Sujamal is not aware of Jalal's fondness for Jodha...how could he rule out that the 'vish ingestion' was Jodha's choice and not a conspiracy? Any brother would get restless. He did not come to Agra to create trouble and wanted to leave the moment he saw that she was alright.

Jodha is being criticized for not turning in Sujamal to Jalal...please give her a break, , she is human and a doting sister. She knows that her brother could not have committed the war crimes that he is accused of. She gently tried telling Jalal who dismissed it right away. How can a sister throw an innocent and caring brother in front of a person who will kill him right away? . If jalal dod not listen to Jodha's explainations, why would he listen to Sujamal's. If she still does it to save her relationship with Jalal...how low is that...sacrificing a loving brother to please her husband. If her support for Sujamal leads to a MU, so be it...but not at the cost of butchering both Jodha's and Jalal's character. Btw...I want the new Moti fired ASAP...she is getting way too much screen space. And why didn't she tell Jodha that MA looked at the leaf on which the message was written?
Oooh, I think I hear a die hard Sujamal fan? But jokes aside you're right, his character is such that he is much misunderstood and maligned whereas surely there is some logic in his ambitions for himself? Not only is the poor guy always caught on the wrong side of his own family and the Agra family, but even we viewers are now tending to blame him for the potential to cause an MU between the lead pair! Some guys are dealt a bad hand by Destiny and God knows, they don't deserve it. Sujamal is not a villain poor guy, but I don't know why he ends up always on the wrong foot with everybody. By the way, only in this episode I heard Jodha mention his wife. She said "What will I answer my Bhabhi sa if something happens to Sujamal?" Till yesterday I don't think I have ever seen a lady specifically mentioned as Sujamal's wife, and where is she stationed? With him on the run or back at Amer with the other wives of the brothers?

Anyways, i think that we will have to endure these tiny frustrations but the end of this track will be pleasant. Let's keep our fingers and toes crossed😃
Cleo we can endure any track - even an MU - if we know its not going to last beyond a week or ten days.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akanksha_33

Mansi, great analysis.

the episode was okay-okay, nothing much it in.

All I want to see is how Jalal is going to trust Jodha without doubting her or being poisoned by Maham.
and ofcourse I don't want an MU.

I have the same question as you do. couldn't Sujamal and Jodha finish their conversation in one night that they have to meet twice or why on earth are they meeting twice?

Yes, isn't it? The precap and promo seem at odds with each other!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: peepu

Hi Mansi,

Again a good guess
I don't think jalal will send her to amer
We will get a hurt jalal on sujamal .matter and when he says jodha doesn't trust her jodha is going to break down.
And yes it might go mandys and your way sujamal willl not die so soon, people love him and they won't erase too many characters...atgah, maham, adham and sujamal no I don't think so
Sujamal will be erased when hakim track starts
But I think and im sure painting will see a super possessiveness of jalal and cheapu though not caught will wet his pants...or whatever they wore that time.
And this will bring much awaited SR...but really I want to see some mushy passion before it.As jalal will be crazy after her confession.
All i expect is an attempt to capture jodha by cheapu but he soon realises its beyond his aukaat...
And current situation doesn't support this...jodha wont be tainted for sure and the painting will just reveal that cheapu has hots for jodha but there bakshi will save him though we might get painter woman testifying against him.everything points out maham will be in delhi and cheapu in mewat.and after that ruqaiah is subdued may be we can get paigaam reading too which leads mahams pack off.

I hope they both break down as you have suggested ... otherwise I know I am going to have a breakdown!😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aashyagh

Mansi, one more reason I do not see kidnapping is because, how will Jalal spare Shariff alive, who tried to kidnap a Mughal Begum?? After all it is about Mughal sultanate's izzat and he would chop the hands of the person who tried to touch her and will he forgive Shariffuddin again for such crime? As he was pardoned 3 or 4 times right?

P.S- I am waiting for the day, how he will punish the guy who pulled Jo's hands in the jail😉

If they have a kidnap, Zee will have the Karni protestors at their doorstep, saying Jodha ke naam pe daag etc etc. I don't think they'll risk that. maybe at best an intention to kidnap, that's all!

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