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Posted: 12 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: MoronsKiMallika

Every suffering is different.


Every person's reaction to it is different.

Not all human-beings are made of steel. Not all human beings are candyfloss.

And to tell someone to 'Get Over It' is

INSENSITIVE.

PLAIN INSENSITIVE.

I am actually shocked at this thread. Since when did pain and suffering become topics of debates and OPINIONS? Its such a de-humanized thing to do.


MKM, the TM is not belittling Rudra's pain or being insensitive. She has issues with the screenplay and storytelling. If this is a story of two hurting souls coming together and healing each other than the creatives are not focusing on Paro's emotions enough. Just as they are showing Rudra's turmoil they should equally show Paro's trauma going through wedding farce, loss of her identity and shattering of her dreams. From the day she decided to face her situation and creatives have shown very little of her thoughts and pain. She is trying to be strong, it does not mean she cannot become overcome by grief when alone, why is there barely any focus on it?


Lopsidedness of the screenplay is what the TM is trying to highlight.
Edited by showviewer - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#62
To lose a parent to death is one thing, you know they have no control over it. It was God's will. Or some may call it destiny. But to lose a parent because they CHOSE to leave you, and then to face public humiliation, daily reminders from a hurting father and to have no support at all- that has got to be the most damaging experience of your life. And Rudra's life was changed forever after that . He never got support from anybody , not even his father, to help him move on. Instead, his morale was further downgraded by daily reminders of how he resembles his mother. Paro ,on the other hand, received love and care in a supportive environment, infinitely better than Rudra's.

Having said that, I do have a major complaint. Sure, show Rudra crying, I don't mind. Infact, it's refreshing to see a male lead in sync with his emotional damage, someone who realizes he is broken inside. But what about Paro? Her whole life changed within a matter of a day, and it's been less than a month since (actually, about 2 weeks). Why don't they give equal weight to her suffering? I want to see her remembering her previous life, when her life was as perfect as it could have been. That's my issue. Why do they sideline the woman's pain?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#63
Oh my ghosh Sunara! I was thinking the same thing since morning !
Do we have some kind of telepathy going on here

I also feel that Paro's childhood has been much more traumatic if not the same. And to make it worse her current losses are more fresh and need to be focussed on

Indian soaps and even movies tend to over do the mom-son relationship to the extent that it spills over to real life in smaller measures (speaking from personal experience 😉

They cut off PAro's scene in the terrace and transitioned to Rudra's crying...for the first time I forwarded a scene in RR today. I was like..."no, I want to see Paro's emotions before going on to this"

It is not that they should not show Rudra's pain, but they need to balance it with Paro's pain (not just of her childhood, but also current)

The CVs have a a very lopsided view and portrayal of the two tragedies here. Not good.
Edited by SanayaIsBest - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#64

Er...I'm quite surprised at this post. ( not good surprised btw)

Urm...I get what your saying I guess and understand that this is your opinion on it which I totally respect. You have total right to your opinion sis.

Personally I think CV's are portraying the character of Rudra quite well. I could never imagine myself in a position where my mother has left me at a young age for 15 years. I actually think I'd be in a worse state than Rudra. And especially when Rudra has proper memories of his mother as in his mother didn't leave him as a baby. Cuz I know many say that you don't miss what you never had, but Rudra HAD a mother, her love and who was his everything. And to be betrayed by her ( in his POV) ...Honestly my heart goes out to him sympathetically .

Yes yes he's a fictional character, but that doesn't mean the situation of parents leaving their children for years and years isn't real. There are people out there who have had their mum or dad leave them at a young age. I've heard of some cases where it's been more than 15 years and they still haven't been reunited with their mother/father and it understandably does effect them . It's definitely not something to as you say 'get over'. But I guess there's the point where Paro has lost her parents at a young age too but accounting Dilsher's upbringing to Rudra? Rudra's bound to yearn for his mother all those years of suffering. I'm not comparing Paro's childhood pain to Rudra's childhood pain at all! How can someone weight on scales the trauma different people go through. Rudra's isn't worse than Paro's and Paro's isn't worse than Rudra. They are both really bad and it both makes me feel awful and highly grateful that God has let me have my parents with me til now.

BUT honestly I also feel everyone deals with situations and problems in their lives differently and the CV's decided to portray Rudra this way. We should accept and respect it I believe. They are the writers of their story and so would in their own mind have reason and basis behind each characters portrayal and action ( so we should hope anyways).

And realistically again I'm saying I couldn't even imagine what a person with no mother for 15 years would be going through. Just even putting myself in Rudra's shoes for even a little second makes me feel awful so my heart breaks for him.

My two cents.

If I have offended anyone I'm sincerely sorry as I had no intention to.

x

P.S just re-read your post. Your definitely right about the CV should show more Paro's pain for her parents too.
Edited by -Zara- - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#65
I completely agree with this viewpoint. I really don't think anyone that young really remembers much to begin with and I seriously don't think they start hating womankind in entirety. There are a lot of people that have gone through harsher things in life and turn out just fine so this portrayal of a man crying and shouting his lungs out at every given opportunity at a harmless, weak, lonely woman is just not appealing. Come on Rudra, be a MAN.
Of course, I know it's a serial and all that jazz but this is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#66
Different people, different situations Di. Paro's parents case was clear .. Paro knew what happened to her parents and wny. Plus, she had her mami, thakurainsa , Bindi , nandu , rukmani etc to make up for the loss (not completely , but something at least). They handled Paro well and taught her how to live <3
As for Rudra, ever since his mom left, his life was so..blurred.. so unclean. Chachi's ,classmate's taunts made it even worse. And the dumb baap of course..! He never had anyone to show him the right way! His father was there, but 🤢 He never got a chance to move on! Every time he tried, someone or the other reminds him of her :(

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Posted: 12 years ago
#67

I didn't want to jump in and say something but then I thought about myself. My parents are separated too and I don't get along with my mother. I am quite reasonable person atleast I think I am, I know why she left, I know she had a very good reason, I know she still loves me but yet I will never forgive her and a part of me will always hate her for doing what she did eventhough I understand her reasons. See it is very complicated the love hate thing it is not logical, you can't reason yourself out of hating someone and you can't make the pain go away. Ok that said I am not Rudra I am quite a happy person. My brother unfortunately is not the same he was very close to my mother. He has never been the same ever since family started falling apart sure he is not as damaged as Rudra but he is not happy either mabye he never will be. He didn't react the same way I did, maybe because he is a guy and I am a girl. So it would be cruel to say why can't my brother suck it up and be like me. Maybe that is why I sympathize with Rudra so much because I see my brother in him. He is very quite like Rudra and lonely too and he can have a volatile temper. So that is my personal story in understanding Rudra. Dilsher reminds me of my dad, my father too in his emotional moments will bad mouth my mother and that has always broke my heart and I wonder too do I hate my mother because of that. My father is an amazing man I am his girl and will always support him but for my brother it was probably traumatic. That is why I connect with Dilsher and Rudra because I see glimpses of my own family in them.

Now coming to Paro I really think Rang Rasiya is Rudra's story. This is more his journey, story is from his point of view. It is not that Paro is not important or her feelings don't matter it is just that the writers have made a conscious decision of making this all about Rudra. He is the dominating force that sucks everyone into his life like the cyclone, Paro fate lies in Rudra's emotional turmoil, this point has been made very clear early on in the story she really has no control over her life or death he will write her fate as it is. I know this sounds dark and disturbing for a woman to be so taken over by a man that her very breath will be at his mercy, but that is the premise of this relationship, this love story, and their journey. He is the maker and breaker of this relationship, it will survive because Rudra wills it or it will crumble along with Rudra. It will always be about Rudra, Paro is the calming force but it will be his ups and downs that dictate the story. That is just the way I see this story and since Rudra is such a fascinating character I personally don't mind it being all about him.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#68
There's fundamental differences between Paro and Rudra in regards to their parents.

Paro lost both her parents in an accident. They did not want to leave her. They were taken from her without any of their consents. On top of that, Paro was adopted and raised by her mama's family. They loved her and supported her. Even the Thakurian provided Paro with a cushy upbringing and bestowed love on Paro. Paro grew up in a loving and supporting environment that helped her come to terms with the deaths of her parents. Yes she's an orphan and yes its sad. But she's able to move past that because of the support system she had.

Rudra's mother LEFT him. She didn't want to leave him, but he DOESN'T know that. As far as he knows, she left him without a second thought. That is such a damaging thing for any child to go through, thinking that they are unwanted and not worth staying back for. On top of that, Rudra's dad raised him. Rudra's dad was destroyed when his wife left him and he bestowed that destruction upon Rudra. He wasn't given and support or love like Paro. Instead, Rudra's dad taught him to hate, fed him hate, and festered his hatred. Rudra, as another poster pointed out, shut down after his mother left him. He was not able to grieve or anything. Instead Rudra bottled it up and thus his wound is still open. He's emotionally damaged, and he admits that. I don't think the crying is too out of place (well except the crying in front of Paro). Sometimes his grief manages to escape the bottle its in and Rudra can't help but break down. Rudra was not able to get over his mothers death, and Dilsher ensured that he never would be able to forget it.

Yeah he'll eventually get over it. But ONLY when he realizes that his mother didn't want to leave him. Only when he'll opening grieve and let his wound turn into a scar.

I think the CVs have done a pretty good job with Rudra and Paro. Rudra is physically strong, but emotionally Paro is far stronger.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: loveanime

I didn't want to jump in and say something but then I thought about myself. My parents are separated too and I don't get along with my mother. I am quite reasonable person atleast I think I am, I know why she left, I know she had a very good reason, I know she still loves me but yet I will never forgive her and a part of me will always hate her for doing what she did eventhough I understand her reasons. See it is very complicated the love hate thing it is not logical, you can't reason yourself out of hating someone and you can't make the pain go away. Ok that said I am not Rudra I am quite a happy person. My brother unfortunately is not the same he was very close to my mother. He has never been the same ever since family started falling apart sure he is not as damaged as Rudra but he is not happy either mabye he never will be. He didn't react the same way I did, maybe because he is a guy and I am a girl. So it would be cruel to say why can't my brother suck it up and be like me. Maybe that is why I sympathize with Rudra so much because I see my brother in him. He is very quite like Rudra and lonely too and he can have a volatile temper. So that is my personal story in understanding Rudra. Dilsher reminds me of my dad, my father too in his emotional moments will bad mouth my mother and that has always broke my heart and I wonder too do I hate my mother because of that. My father is an amazing man I am his girl and will always support him but for my brother it was probably traumatic. That is why I connect with Dilsher and Rudra because I see glimpses of my own family in them.

Now coming to Paro I really think Rang Rasiya is Rudra's story. This is more his journey, story is from his point of view. It is not that Paro is not important or her feelings don't matter it is just that the writers have made a conscious decision of making this all about Rudra. He is the dominating force that sucks everyone into his life like the cyclone, Paro fate lies in Rudra's emotional turmoil, this point has been made very clear early on in the story she really has no control over her life or death he will write her fate as it is. I know this sounds dark and disturbing for a woman to be so taken over by a man that her very breath will be at his mercy, but that is the premise of this relationship, this love story, and their journey. He is the maker and breaker of this relationship, it will survive because Rudra wills it or it will crumble along with Rudra. It will always be about Rudra, Paro is the calming force but it will be his ups and downs that dictate the story. That is just the way I see this story and since Rudra is such a fascinating character I personally don't mind it being all about him.


🤗 A very tight hug to you...


Edited by nainasharma123 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#70
I understand but I don't like the term 'broken family' because that isn't right the correct term is single parent family and it offends me when someone calls my family 'broken' when it isn't I live in a single parent family :/
Sorry it's abit irrelevant to your post but I thought of expressing my view!
Also I know you weren't calling my family broken it's just that someone has said that in the past :(

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