Ayodhya:Ram Janmabhoomi - Page 12

Originally posted by: souro

Oh, believe me I was a complete supporter of India being a secular state and believed in State and religion should be different. But words should be backed by actions and secularism should not remain on paper only. If the state blatantly discriminates based on religion and shows favouritism towards the minorities, what's the use. It's better to have a state with a religion than a pseudo-secular state.

I completely hear you and believe you for having known you over 500 posts :) 👏. I am once again questioning majority. Just as certain political parties are being partial to certain minorities, several political leaders are instigating majorities, via issues like the Ram Mandir in Ayodhya.
If one really cares for Hindus and their life in India, so much more could be done. Ram Mandir is not even symbolic to me .. See where I am coming from? My love and respect for my religion is beyond that mandir there.

Ofcourse favoritism is hurtful and wrong. Ofcourse one should speak against it. But what's your motto here in demolishing mosque? Aren't you ( not you in particular, but the individual) just being one of them 😛

Originally posted by: souro

Oh, believe me I was a complete supporter of India being a secular state and believed in State and religion should be different. But words should be backed by actions and secularism should not remain on paper only. If the state blatantly discriminates based on religion and shows favouritism towards the minorities, what's the use. It's better to have a state with a religion than a pseudo-secular state.

Originally posted by: egghatcher

i for one am not

Originally posted by: raksha.l

I don't see how we are a Secular state...Because, we still have one or the other religion( read minus Hinduism) highlighted all the time..

I ask- what is Secularism???

We are not a secular state till we have reservations based on religion and caste. In a secular state everyone is considered equal but if there is a discrimination based on quota system in our country then upper caste Hindus like us have the right to feel superior. It is not our fault, govt. is making us.

Stop reservation and nip the evil of castism and minority cry in it's bud.

Originally posted by: raksha.l

I don't see how we are a Secular state...Because, we still have one or the other religion( read minus Hinduism) highlighted all the time..

I ask- what is Secularism???

All it means we dont our country by religious dictates..like some of the theocratic states...etc..

Originally posted by: egghatcher

i for one am not

Originally posted by: Maya_M

We are not a secular state till we have reservations based on religion and caste. In a secular state everyone is considered equal but if there is a discrimination based on quota system in our country then upper caste Hindus like us have the right to feel superior. It is not our fault, govt. is making us.

Stop reservation and nip the evil of castism and minority cry in it's bud.

BINGO Maya! And hence I have questioned the constitution in every post.

Pulling down a monument to rebuild temple will never HEAL the HURT hearts. In fact, it will hurt fresh hearts. There will be something else in the name of something else every decade.
Just as I have serious faith-problem in the way Indian states are so-called Unified, and they way we are so-called united in diversity, pardon me for not believing that even during one heart-beat 😆😆.. PSEUDO-SECULARISM is making us agitated and we are channelizing those feelings in acts that affect lives of common people from all religions.

I don't blame those Hindus who feel unfavored and I don;t blame several members of those minorities (our honorable president being one of those 👏) who get dragged into political storms that neither strenghthen and unify Hindus, nor deal with our REAL hurt issues.

Raksha 🤗 , you surprised me today, since Gandhiji's teachings would surely expect one to be forgiving and guide one to rise oneself above these petty destructive activities. It is not cowardly, as some may call it. IMO, it is clearly rising ABOVE to let go what happened 500 years ago, and TACKLE the PRESENT state with DIGNITY and FIGHT for the RIGHT CAUSE. I'd love to hear from you on this, if you like 😳.

Originally posted by: raksha.l

I don't see how we are a Secular state...Because, we still have one or the other religion( read minus Hinduism) highlighted all the time..

I ask- what is Secularism???

oh, that's the philosophical hangover from the gandhian/ congress days. it's actually a dirty word in the west. sort of promises everyone in india a "way of life" that various brethren in other countries do their damndest to deny to their own respective minorities.😊

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

Raksha 🤗 , you surprised me today, since Gandhiji's teachings would surely expect one to be forgiving and guide one to rise oneself above these petty destructive activities. It is not cowardly, as some may call it. IMO, it is clearly rising ABOVE to let go what happened 500 years ago, and TACKLE the PRESENT state with DIGNITY and FIGHT for the RIGHT CAUSE. I'd love to hear from you on this, if you like 😳.

You may think about it as rising above petty issues, but what happens when the other party thinks you're doing it because you're cowardly and continues doing their nonsense. How many times should one ignore or forgive or forget??