Jodha Akbar 158: Matters of the heart - Page 4

Originally posted by: TheIronLady

I don't think that's the case here, Adiana. As If Jalal would have accepted his love for Jodha then I don't think he'd have behaved the way he did in D-E-K yest.

He is in denial, he thinks that if he accepts that he loves Jodha then Mirza'a words will become true and he'll end up being weak. And that's what he doesn't want at all, he don't want to be the guy who everyone feels pity for because the person whom he loves doesn't love him back. He doesn't want to be pitied and he definitely doesn't want people to think he is weak. And in top of all this Jodha's sudden care for him is leaving him more confused. That guy is just fighting with his emotion right now and it will all be put to rest when he will witness Jodha risking her own life for him. Then he will realize that Jodha is capable of loving him and her love will make him stronger, not weaker.

Originally posted by: jshweta16

^ Aunty I think in one of the episodes when Jodha visited Sharifuddin in prison he mentioned "Ham janate hai aap aur Shehenshah k bich koi jismani rishta nahi hai" which somewhat irked Jodha. So if he knows then we can assume everyone knows about their marital relation.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

No, my dear, not a fan girl. I am, at 60+, far too old to be any fangirl, least of all of a boy younger than my son. I admire Rajat as an actor a very great deal, but that is an objective assessment, and I had never seen him before. My understanding of a fangirl, for Rajat in this case, would be the likes of Tripti or Disha or Munni and the umpteen other young ladies in this forum. Not me.

The same goes for Jalal as a character. I like him enormously when he is dominating, astute and strong. I want to clobber him when he puts up with things he should never put up with, is led by the nose by his wives (Jodha included) and Mahaam, and is foolish and indecisive. Like yesterday, when he should have insisted on marrying Benazir off to some other chap, but let Ruqaiya push him into marrying her himself.

Yes, in my distant youth, I was a fan of the rough and tough Humphrey Bogart, Clark Gable's Rhett Butler, and the young Amitabh Bachchan !

Was that all you had to say about this post?

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank you for writing in with your views. I can see that you have strong opinions on these matters and I respect that.

Oops! You found them strong but they aren't meant to be.😳 Its just a story from the creative team's perspective.

But if you think the whole harem, and by extension the whole of a gossipy court, did not know that Jalal and Jodha had had no marital relations, you are far off the mark. That is not how palaces and harems function. Every baandi there, not to speak of the begums, would have known that, and told about everyone they could find in and outside the palace. There was nothing of the modern notions of privacy in those days, and an emperor's love life was very well documented by the staff!

Ah well as I wrote that there were rumours going and to quash them Jalal accepts the baby. Strictly as per what was shown there was not much gossiping as a tittle tattle amongst the most popular bandis.

On actual history well Jalal was a clever and ruthless man so anyone gossiping about would face death. Historians have accepted that different biographies of Akbar give different accounts of some events including some major ones, in his life and those days hardly attention was paid to the private life.

I agree that the sitting under a tree stunt could have been passed off as a tiff, but not what goes or rather does not go on within the harem. Everyone there would have known that Jalal had never spent a night with Jodha in Agra, and the baandis who had accompanied them to Ajmer would have noted and gossiped about her freely acknowledged aversion to sharing his tent,.

So the whole court that was there in the DEK would have been in the know of this, and the unkind gossip about Jodha's supposed pregnancy would have taken care of any incurious souls!

In fact, Shwetha has pointed out later on this thread that

when Jodha visited Sharifuddin in prison he mentioned "Ham jaanet hai aap aur Shehenshah ke beech koi jismani rishta nahi hai".

On Sharifuddin, of course he knew it because he is Bakshi's husband, a close relative. He used it to malign her so that Jodha is sent packing and he can have her. That was his malicious plan.

A very crude and impertinent comment to make, but the point is that he new about it too, for all that he did not live in Agra at the court.

I also very strongly disagree that what Jalal had for Jodha that night was stree ke liye lalasa. Whyk, when he is baring his soul to her, he specifically confesses that though he HAD wanted to dominate and conquer her at one point of time, now she had conquered him. Any woman who could say, after listening to him say all that he did, and in such a moving manner, that all he felt for her was SKLL is coarse and insensitive to the nth degree.

I don't find anything wrong in Jalal desiring Jodha as that is why he married her. So that stands true. Jalal actions hinted towards that . Jalal does want Jodha physically but he wants that meeting to be from her heart. Of course there are loopholes from script and characterization.

I am glad that you agree with me that what Jalal wants from Jodha is not just the physical aspect, but caring and affection. And I am with you in toto in regretting what they have done to Ruqaiya, even Smiley's Ruqaiya.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

The show has taken way too many liberties😆 but well its prime time TV show targeting entertainment.

Originally posted by: jshweta16

^ Aunty I think in one of the episodes when Jodha visited Sharifuddin in prison he mentioned "Ham janate hai aap aur Shehenshah k bich koi jismani rishta nahi hai" which somewhat irked Jodha. So if he knows then we can assume everyone knows about their marital relation.