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Posted: 4 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Apsvenky

I have one question about the legality thing. Does Imlie know her shaadi is the legal one? See Adi has always told her that her shaadi was illegal. Also Adi and Didi are taking a divorce. While Adi keeps saying tum humari pehli patni ho coz he has accepted that relationship, but Imlie may be thinking that it is more about him accepting ki shaadi hui hai and they are emotionally not doing an EMA. But is she fully aware that legally also her relationship is very much valid? Wahaan pe mujhe thoda grey area lag raha hai. Please let me know if I have missed something here.

BTW I know that Adi knows Imlie is legally also his wife, coz during the truth reveal he mentioned to didi that woh uski patni hi nahi hai. Just I wish they had shown when he found out that the illegal shaadi he was touting was very much legal.


Duh imlie knows that..why else has she been considering this rishta SM ka aashirwaad her vishwaas and all that.. besides har actual School papers have her name as imlie AKT..which doesn't happen without actual registration we have discussed it countless times how it is legal caz the whole gaoon was witness and under the saroanch they can register they just need his sign or something ad was mentioned happens in these jurisdictions by actual people who practice law here . So duhh regardless paper or not..she married in front of itne witness with full customs and rituals agni ko sakshi maanke isn't that above all the other papers and legal crap

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I am just going to watch the show until Imlie & Adi-Imlie equation keep my interest. I just do not have the same level of interest in the show now that I had until the Holi epis.


The writers have seriously done a great job of making the audience frustrated with their propping of useless Didi. In their zeal to be different & not paint the 2nd FL as a villain or vamp they have diluted & messed up the beautiful Adi-Imlie relationship. If they didn't want to show her as a villain or vamp then they should not have made her so selfish, entitled, narcissistic, delusional person. And even these traits do not actually make her a vamp. It is her whitewashing & undeserved mahanta tag that has made her unbearable for the audience.


Every character gets dumbed down & has become a plot device to prop up Didi's mahanta when it is clear to the audience that she is anything but mahaan. So who are they trying to fool? Didi has no role left once she gets separated from Adi but the writers insist on ghusoing her with Imlie's Didi jaap or Adi's gehri dosti Jaap when we all know how hollow this jaaps are.


So I am currently watching the show with no great expectations, appreciate when we get good story telling via Adi-Imlie & try to block out the Loservedis to the best of my efforts. I have accepted that the golden story telling of the first 120 epis is not coming back because they want to continue to prop up Didi when she actually has become irrelevant to the main plot & this is done by dumbing down all other characters as a plot device. So Imlie & Adi will take turns to feel guilty about Didi to keep her relevant in the story. The writers will never allow them to live guilt free🤷🙎.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: Apsvenky

I have one question about the legality thing. Does Imlie know her shaadi is the legal one? See Adi has always told her that her shaadi was illegal. Also Adi and Didi are taking a divorce. While Adi keeps saying tum humari pehli patni ho coz he has accepted that relationship, but Imlie may be thinking that it is more about him accepting ki shaadi hui hai and they are emotionally not doing an EMA. But is she fully aware that legally also her relationship is very much valid? Wahaan pe mujhe thoda grey area lag raha hai. Please let me know if I have missed something here.

BTW I know that Adi knows Imlie is legally also his wife, coz during the truth reveal he mentioned to didi that woh uski patni hi nahi hai. Just I wish they had shown when he found out that the illegal shaadi he was touting was very much legal.


The legality of the marriage was never an issue for Imlie. She's believed in the marriage regardless, remember? If she wanted to fight this over legality, she would have done that a long time back.....but she never did. Cuz it never mattered to her.....her faith carried her through all this time.


She was never expecting acceptance from Adi but now she has his love and full acceptance of their marriage......so now she awaits acceptance from his family. Again, she's not thinking about it from a legal perspective at all......she's only talked about it in terms of haq as connected to emotions. She lamented the fact that she never had any haq in a marriage that she had fully accepted as part of her faith......now she's lamenting the fact that accepting her own haq will feel like she's taking away Malini ke haq.


They keep this all in abstracts deliberately to keep the drama going......agar legality discuss karne lage toh two minutes mein sab clear ho jaayega.....Imlie's marriage to Adi is valid cuz it happened with full rituals and many witnesses. Adi was talking crap about it being illegal for so long to deny it cuz he didn't want to accept it.....legality ka issue toh iske liye bhi nahin tha....he was using it as an excuse to push her away. If he really thought it was illegal, he'd have had it annulled.


So all this mess right now is not cuz of the legality of her marriage to Adi being in question.....they are keeping it all tied around only sparing Adi the consequences of committing bigamy.....lol and then secondly they are fixating on the emotional impact of Malini's marriage breaking apart.....legality mein kisi ko koi interest nahin.....lol that is why the divorce is just a vehicle to give them all cover to get out from this mess in their own ways.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli


Duh imlie knows that..why else has she been considering this rishta SM ka aashirwaad her vishwaas and all that.. besides har actual School papers have her name as imlie AKT..which doesn't happen without actual registration we have discussed it countless times how it is legal caz the whole gaoon was witness and under the saroanch they can register they just need his sign or something ad was mentioned happens in these jurisdictions by actual people who practice law here . So duhh regardless paper or not..she married in front of itne witness with full customs and rituals agni ko sakshi maanke isn't that above all the other papers and legal crap

My point was not if the rishta was legal, it was if Imlie knew it was. All the above points you mentioned ke baad bhi Adi kept reiterating that the shaadi was illegal. Imlie has always maintained that the relationship was SM's blessing from the day she was married to him, yet she never told Adi that illegal nahi hai whenever he tried to say that this relationship is gair kanooni. Even during the bike scene when she says while you feel the rishta is illegal, rishta hai to sahi, she never once said that the relationship is legal.

Even after he accepted her and said that she is his first wife, when she was leaving and met SK in the bus stop, there also she says that yahaan desh ka kanno chalta hai and I do not have any haq on him here.

While the points you mentioned are what makes the marriage legal and we know it as an audience. My question was only to understand if Imlie knows it and I still feel she does not.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: Lodestar

I am just going to watch the show until Imlie & Adi-Imlie equation keep my interest. I just do not have the same level of interest in the show now that I had until the Holi epis.


The writers have seriously done a great job of making the audience frustrated with their propping of useless Didi. In their zeal to be different & not paint the 2nd FL as a villain or vamp they have diluted & messed up the beautiful Adi-Imlie relationship. If they didn't want to show her as a villain or vamp then they should not have made her so selfish, entitled, narcissistic, delusional person. And even these traits do not actually make her a vamp. It is her whitewashing & undeserved mahanta tag that has made her unbearable for the audience.


Every character gets dumbed down & has become a plot device to prop up Didi's mahanta when it is clear to the audience that she is anything but mahaan. So who are they trying to fool? Didi has no role left once she gets separated from Adi but the writers insist on ghusoing her with Imlie's Didi jaap or Adi's gehri dosti Jaap when we all know how hollow this jaaps are.


So I am currently watching the show with no great expectations, appreciate when we get good story telling via Adi-Imlie & try to block out the Loservedis to the best of my efforts. I have accepted that the golden story telling of the first 120 epis is not coming back because they want to continue to prop up Didi when she actually has become irrelevant to the main plot & this is done by dumbing down all other characters as a plot device. So Imlie & Adi will take turns to feel guilty about Didi to keep her relevant in the story. The writers will never allow them to live guilt free🤷🙎.


Lodestar ji, aapka rant is duly noted....par epi review nahin post karna kya is waale epi ke liye?😛😆.....Aapko kaisa lagaa rain scene? And ofcourse "long awaited" convo of Adi and Rupi DI?😆


Expectations hain bhi kisko pehle jaise....not me.....but even as I watch without expecting pehle jaisa momentum, I can appreciate stand alone scenes when they are executed dhang se.....kal toh usmein bhi jhol tha😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: Apsvenky

My point was not if the rishta was legal, it was if Imlie knew it was. All the above points you mentioned ke baad bhi Adi kept reiterating that the shaadi was illegal. Imlie has always maintained that the relationship was SM's blessing from the day she was married to him, yet she never told Adi that illegal nahi hai whenever he tried to say that this relationship is gair kanooni. Even during the bike scene when she says while you feel the rishta is illegal, rishta hai to sahi, she never once said that the relationship is legal.

Even after he accepted her and said that she is his first wife, when she was leaving and met SK in the bus stop, there also she says that yahaan desh ka kanno chalta hai and I do not have any haq on him here.

While the points you mentioned are what makes the marriage legal and we know it as an audience. My question was only to understand if Imlie knows it and I still feel she does not.


is imlie a 2 yrs old kid jisse itni simple si baat nahi pata ke uski shaadi hui hai... with full rasam rivaaj.. religious ceremonies... I am sorry she doesn't need Spoonfeeding AY already answered your question why the legality never mattered and WHy imlie ko interest hai nahi aisi formalities main.. A rishta is a rishta..


Phere are phere everywhere.. a nikkah is a nikkah everywhere The rest of Certifications and stuff is all location based that doesn't change or invalidate your shaadi and imlie is the pehli biwi and Hence the only Legal wife.. adi toh bohat kuch nonsense bolta hai and BTW even that point is invalid now Because they have come such a long way he has given her haqs /sindoor .pyar /acceptance heck 2 din pehle proposed to her and told her soon they will make it public.. he takes firms stands ke imlie ke saath saath phere Liye in case you missed it and that Imlie is my Patni Just this week only in front of imlie all so idk why you are stuck at Does imlie know I mean she was there unless her ears were blocked caz then yeah she doesn't know. She has the consent of her partner her own consent, the religious Ceremonies.. what sorta question is Does imlie know she is Lawfully wedded wife .. the examples you are giving are about 100 episode old and we have COme a Long way since then*Shrugs*


Just a day ago in show ki TL BTW


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right imlie doesn't know



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sure this imlie doesn't know ke woh actualwife hai😆


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and there are more examples

Edited by naadanmasakalli - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: Apsvenky

My point was not if the rishta was legal, it was if Imlie knew it was. All the above points you mentioned ke baad bhi Adi kept reiterating that the shaadi was illegal. Imlie has always maintained that the relationship was SM's blessing from the day she was married to him, yet she never told Adi that illegal nahi hai whenever he tried to say that this relationship is gair kanooni. Even during the bike scene when she says while you feel the rishta is illegal, rishta hai to sahi, she never once said that the relationship is legal.

Even after he accepted her and said that she is his first wife, when she was leaving and met SK in the bus stop, there also she says that yahaan desh ka kanno chalta hai and I do not have any haq on him here.

While the points you mentioned are what makes the marriage legal and we know it as an audience. My question was only to understand if Imlie knows it and I still feel she does not.

Even if Adhithya annulled the marriage and go move forward imlie will still stuck in same place. And also imlie always said I respect your believes so what ever you want you do … what ever I believe based on that I do the things … For imlie always Adhithya is her husband. Initially she doesn’t affected so much by society’s view. But on later phase she becomes more insecure about it.

Imlie may be doubt her about legality also due to Adhithya’s continuous taunts .

And also only before 2nd pd trip adhithya said there is no registration . But on that trip he sees the imlies school TC . There after he has not said anything about marriage legality. Started using the term like illegal .


for now imlie have still faith in marriage. But still afraid of the acceptance of marriage and this truth may overshadowed by Malini’s marriage with Adhithya

Edited by Midnight_moon - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Lodestar ji, aapka rant is duly noted....par epi review nahin post karna kya is waale epi ke liye?😛😆.....Aapko kaisa lagaa rain scene? And ofcourse "long awaited" convo of Adi and Rupi DI?😆


Expectations hain bhi kisko pehle jaise....not me.....but even as I watch without expecting pehle jaisa momentum, I can appreciate stand alone scenes when they are executed dhang se.....kal toh usmein bhi jhol tha😆


I got disappointed with the epi as I had high expectations reading initial reviews. But meri expectations ki chop ho gayi😆. So became more disappointed.


The rain scene was good with Imlie actually talking about her fears & disillusionment of the power of truth. Adi also gave good supporting dialogues that he will always be with her, jo tumhare khilaaf hai woh humare khilaaf hai, etc. There was some disjoint between the talk & their hug. Dialogues were also a bit muddled.


But after that came the Loservedis ka yelling match which just made me want to give a mud spa to both AC & DC😆. Then came Meethi SK scene. Meethi was worrying about the wrong thing when her & Imlie's circumstances are actually different. Imlie is Adi's legally wedded wife so why would she be the one snatching behen ka suhaag. Empathy is one thing but Meethi & Imlie take it to the next level in their Didi jaap. SK was so chill after knowing that his bitiya was insulted so badly by AC that I was like who is he? Doesn't he want to take revenge from these losers?


Adi-Rupi scene was so sudden. First of all once again Adi knows about Rupi knowing the truth from Imlie without it being shown to us🤔. I mean what the heck?! We have been discussing how they will come to know this since eons & it all happens off screen?!😡😆. Then Adi told her about DC being Imlie's father so Malini & Imlie are actually sisters. How he is worried that Imlie may leave him. I was confused because Imlie didn't actually say anything about leaving him during their rain talk. Or is this his general fear? I felt that may be they edited out some dialogues from the rain scene. I don't know it just feel disjointed.


Adi came across as very passive when he was lamenting about what he will do if Imlie leaves him for Didi & everybody else's happiness. What does he mean by that? Is he really going to allow Imlie to go away when he has said a 100 times that he will not allow her to leave him. Doesn't Adi's choice of partner matter? Why do the makers insist on keeping this situation dangling as if Imlie is not Adi's clear choice & that Didi has no chance with him whatsoever. Writers please get over this plot point & move onto the next🙏. No need to drag this ghatiyapanti now.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#99

Rofl and while looking for other evidence came across this chalo yeh toh like 50% consistent or is it? haha I guess it is caz she is still saying sach alone ain't enough when it should be right... now am confused and this is a random post 😆


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Posted: 4 years ago

Loved the analysis AY.

I don’t think here Imlie is questioning legality of her relationship. Here the struggle is her belief vs her reality. She believed that she is the product of true love, as Meethi was faithfully waiting for Imlie’s dad. She got the first reality check when she stayed at chaturvedi house. But she got to know the harsh reality that she is an illegitimate child. She is questioning her whole existence and beliefs.

Again she is not thinking logically at all, all she understands is sisters can’t share suhaag etc. but the disconnect I found is with Adi. He is also not thinking logically, he could have said that I am your husband and Malini has moved on… but as usual writers have to write script with Didi as core focus, making her mahaan right.

Malini is getting out of a marriage built on a promise and no love, she is not sacrificing a mutually loving bond, I find it as freedom. From the beginning I don’t understand how does that make her a victim or a mahaan person.

I don’t know but yesterday’s episode I find it half cooked and very illogical. But really applaud ST and GM’s performances. Hi

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