Jay's truth revealed - is it early or not? - Page 3

Originally posted by: forest_foliage

Bani saving Veer's life with her poison was a highly powerful scene. Both are even - earlier Veer saved Bani, now Bani saved him. Mortal foes are saving each other. Once Naageshwari's poison took away Aakesh's life, she promised him thousand deaths in every lifetime, that has been swiftly reversed with Bani's poison restoring Veer's life, a sort of jeevan daan. She thought it was wrong & asked for forgiveness from Bholenaath for saving her enemy, but she will realise it later that she saved her jeevan saathi, her true destined life partner. Aage aur bhi surprises dete rahenge Shiv ji !

Bani ke liye sabse bada surprise khud Jai hoga. Uske baad Bani ko na surprise hona chod kar, apne eyes ke upar jo sar hai usko use karna shuru kar dena chahiye.

Originally posted by: libran90

Originally posted by: amlavs

Oh yeah.. am not saying he has to be harsh on Bani or hurt her... I know he won't... never... he 'll jump and save Bani without thinking anything whenever he saw her in trouble...

He was very sharp and He was more fierce in thinking...he used to react fast... But see how fast he reacted to Mayuri matter...he is able to connect dots fast...

U said nah he is trying to find y Bani hate him so much... this Jay being alive 'll stir his thoughts more I belive.. he is soft and his thinking is also soft regarding Bani (ONLY)

Veer is a sharp man, which is evident with the way he very swiftly connects the dots and gauges the truth. Cause he is the one who on Daksh's word first goes to check if Bani is a Naagin or not, cause he has doubts about her identity. Cause ek baat to woh samajh gaya hai that Bani isn't an ordinary girl as he has assumed.

But whatever truth or story he learns, his attitude towards Bani will not have a too drastic change, which is evident after Teer's death. Veer is different, and we love that about him.

Originally posted by: Manoshono

Yes! All of the secrets the Cheel clan is hiding from Veer. All of the things which he feels proud of. His belief that any type of sins nor he or his family would ever commit could make him feel nauseated once it’s all revealed. I think that’s where Bani will end up giving him shoulders to cry on or at least see the vulnerable side of him. You know I could be wrong, but why do I feel that the big boss is someone in the Cheel family who is operating all the sins through them.? Tapish seems to be an introvert, quite always hiding something kinda guy. I sort of have doubts about him.

I have my doubts about Tapish because he is the only one who isn't openly bad in that Cheel family. Also, my other doubt is Balwant jaise dikhata hai na ki woh Tapish ko bully karta hai and all, uska kuch ulta hi niklega. Dekha jayega, Ballu is the puppet to Tapish. Similar to Shukla feigning loyalty to Ballu. Veer may have his issues with Bani, but he knows for sure Bani seene pe vaar karti hai, peeche se nahi. Yahaan to family hi peet ke peeche vaar karti hai. Veer will have a major fallout with Ballu and his brothers due to this. And this secret is capable of wrecking Veer - his family is his pride, and that will shatter.

Don’t think there was any other option if they wanted to portray the hero and heroine as smart. This revelation can’t be kept completely under wraps since Bani is supposed to be quite intelligent. I am so glad that they aren’t turning it into a typical ITV show by keeping such big revelations for the latter part of the show 😄

Originally posted by: libran90

Veer is a sharp man, which is evident with the way he very swiftly connects the dots and gauges the truth. Cause he is the one who on Daksh's word first goes to check if Bani is a Naagin or not, cause he has doubts about her identity. Cause ek baat to woh samajh gaya hai that Bani isn't an ordinary girl as he has assumed.

But whatever truth or story he learns, his attitude towards Bani will not have a too drastic change, which is evident after Teer's death. Veer is different, and we love that about him.

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Originally posted by: libran90

Exactly, I agree, Season 2 and 3 were a circus of villains just flying in from everywhere. I think in this season they are more concentrated on the supernatural angle with other fantasy creatures being villains here.

I also completely agree that this season is far removed from the other seasons because it traces the origins of all the shapeshifters, which is why people won't be too confused. Also till now, makers have managed to keep the pace fine, the story unpredictable. Infact, I am happy that they have taken a completely different turn and not rehashing the previous seasons, except for a few standard elements.

Another angle that came to my mind a while back is the Suryavanshi angle. If you recall, in Season 1, Rithik was a Suryavanshi meant to protect the Naagmani along with Shivanya, the Naagin and their daughter Shivangi was half Suryavanshi and half Naagin. They could pursue a similar angle with Meera if they plan to keep her human. like she is the reincarnation of the 1st Suryavanshi or like Veer a Suryavanshi princess reborn as Meera. If you have watched the 1st movie Mummy, the Pharoah's bodyguards, always dressed in black, were a tribe, whose every generation of Medjais protected the curse of Hamunaptra from being released. Meera could also be a Suryavanshi rakshak of Naagmani and Adi Naagin along with her sisters, who are working to protect Bani from the shadows. What do you think?

It is Veeranshu out of the three characters who has retained his true essence from his past birth, that is to be Naageshwari's deewana, aur ab toh Pati dev ban gaya hai, anantkal gathbandhan ke baad dono hi janam janam ke saathi ban gaye hai. Bani's task should be to move beyond her past, and rectify the mistakes she did as Naageshwari. Hriday toh shady villain tha hi Satyug se, aur Kalyug mein total villain. I would say that even Jai is now more rooted in his present, he is aware of his situation & is taking action. (pandit ko bhi maar diya) Only Bani is left - with so many events unfolding, she will have to focus on her present & scrutinise her past life through the lens of her present.

Originally posted by: libran90

I have my doubts about Tapish because he is the only one who isn't openly bad in that Cheel family. Also, my other doubt is Balwant jaise dikhata hai na ki woh Tapish ko bully karta hai and all, uska kuch ulta hi niklega. Dekha jayega, Ballu is the puppet to Tapish. Similar to Shukla feigning loyalty to Ballu. Veer may have his issues with Bani, but he knows for sure Bani seene pe vaar karti hai, peeche se nahi. Yahaan to family hi peet ke peeche vaar karti hai. Veer will have a major fallout with Ballu and his brothers due to this. And this secret is capable of wrecking Veer - his family is his pride, and that will shatter.

Originally posted by: forest_foliage

I hope Meera remains a positive character throughout the season. If she's a supernatural creature she could be a helper of the Adi Naagin, but not her protector - that role has been allotted to our chilled out Cheel Veeranshu. Remember the promo that revealed Jai as a villain, he was holding a red snake in his hand & called it 'mohra', few people assumed that the mohra could be Meera. In fact Tapish too seems to be a bit shady, he informed his family that Veer was hurt, how did he get to know about it apart from Bani, Mayuri & Shukla ? He also told Balwant - "I think ye sab uska asar hai" as in referring to the Naagfani. Tapish truly knows a lot more than what appears on the surface. Meera could very well be a reincarnated Suryavanshi, but the other two sisters as the Adi Naagin's helpers - might be possible. This season has a lot of random inclusions yaar, be it dialogues or scenes, and as usual, too many cooks spoil the broth.

It is Veeranshu out of the three characters who has retained his true essence from his past birth, that is to be Naageshwari's deewana, aur ab toh Pati dev ban gaya hai, anantkal gathbandhan ke baad dono hi janam janam ke saathi ban gaye hai. Bani's task should be to move beyond her past, and rectify the mistakes she did as Naageshwari. Hriday toh shady villain tha hi Satyug se, aur Kalyug mein total villain. I would say that even Jai is now more rooted in his present, he is aware of his situation & is taking action. (pandit ko bhi maar diya) Only Bani is left - with so many events unfolding, she will have to focus on her present & scrutinise her past life through the lens of her present.

Meera does not have to be a rakshak in a true sense, but she could be that rakshak who was meant to protect her from her birth till she realizes her powers as Adi Naagin. After that, her husband becomes her rakshak or not is a different story. Additionally, she could be a spy too. I mean kitne stories hoti hai, mandir ke rakshak par and all, she and her sisters could be a descendent from that tribe of people. I meant in that sense. I just feel that she should remain positive.

As far as Jai's "mohra" is concerned, that red snake looked like Bani itself and that scene in the promo meant that this is how Jai will be using Bani against Cheels and then kill her.

Tapish did not inform Ballu about Veer getting hurt. I have rewatched that scene so many times, Ballu enters and says, "Ramesh ne bola Veer ko chot lagi hai". I believe one of the servants informed Ballu. But yes, since Tapish keeps a watch on Veer, he did inform Ballu about Mayuri being the last person to have met Veer. Tapish is definitely much more than just someone who is pushed around by Ballu.

I agree, with Jai turning out to be a villain, Bani now has to re-evaluate that if her past life lover has changed in Kalyug, that means many things have changed. So she will have to re-evaluate her hate for the Cheels and Veer and start looking deeper into the Cheel family. She has to now analyze her past and present with the lenses of the present.

Originally posted by: forest_foliage

Absolutely right, Veer will be broken beyond imagination when he learns that his trusted brother Tapish & the others too have been hiding such a hideous secret from him for so long. It will cause a drastic change in Veer's outlook on relationships, and he might want to move out of that house & stay separately with Bani. Veer took Bani to a private house after saving her from the truck blast, I hope that the house wasn't just a random inclusion & should serve its purpose in the story.

Actually, this is going to be the twisted version of "Ram's vanwaas" here. Because Veer is truly the soul of his family, the Ram of this family. He leaves the family heartbroken, which means that the family falls apart. And I am not sure, this family of his don't care too much about emotions, but this fallout will probably come at a time when this family will truly learn how to be a family. Kyunki Bani ne kaha tha na, ki "Main yahaan sab kuch badalne aayi hu". Yes, that private villa where he took her, could become the permanent residence for VAni in the future.